Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

Agent Coulson

WTF I am getting an age verification to watch that YouTube video when did that become a thing?

Itssoeasy

Agent Coulson wrote: »

WTF I am getting an age verification to watch that YouTube video when did that become a thing?

I think it’s happens when whoever uploads it puts an age restriction on it.

J. Marston

Cultaholic have ranked all 383 Wrestlemania matches from worst to best...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq9TH67lwVQ

Can't see myself sitting through the entire 5+ hours so I'll think skip ahead to the top 10 or 20.

Itssoeasy

J. Marston wrote: »

Cultaholic have ranked all 383 Wrestlemania matches from worst to best...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq9TH67lwVQ

Can't see myself sitting through the entire 5+ hours so I'll think skip ahead to the top 10 or 20.

I won’t be doing it either but I can say with some certainty that the giant gonzalez vs undertaker match from WM 9 will be high on the list on the most godawful matches ever broadcast at wrestle mania. I know some matches probably seemed better on paper than in reality and at times guys didn’t click in the ring, but what was Vince thinking ? The giant was an awful wrestler and taker wasn’t going to get a good match out of him.

Agent Coulson

Jack Swagger and Zeb's We the People gimmick really was ahead of it's time.


If they were front and center over the previous 18 months leading up to the US election it might have been a gimmick that really hit home with the riots in DC.

Sirsok

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Jack Swagger and Zeb's We the People gimmick really was ahead of it's time.


If they were front and center over the previous 18 months leading up to the US election it might have been a gimmick that really hit home with the riots in DC.

It wouldn't be allowed.

Necro

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1379078876773675008?s=19

Happy Wrestlemania week everyone!

Itssoeasy

That graphic seems to clear up would nxt takeover be shown on the network given its also on BT sports and the answer is yes it’ll be on the network.

PTH2009

Itssoeasy wrote: »

That graphic seems to clear up would nxt takeover be shown on the network given its also on BT sports and the answer is yes it’ll be on the network.

I'll have to flip a coin on whether i'll watch it on the network or BT

Suppose paying for Sky costs more than the network

CastorTroy

Robert Roode only competing on Smackdown?

Itssoeasy

Btw yesterday April 5th was the seventh anniversary of Mr. T thanking his mother at the HOF. It was both the most entertaining and bizarre speech and I’ll be honest it made the network subscription worth it. Also, yesterday was the 29th anniversary of the wrestlemania 8 which had the great matches of piper vs Hart( and I discrete blade job) and savage vs flair(with a less discrete blade job) and then the main event where papa Shango missed his cue and in the hogan vs Sid.

Loughc

Other than the cage match. Night 1 of mania reads like a Raw card lineup.

Agent Coulson

I kind of want Jericho to win a title in TNA/Impact now there is a partnership there.

So he can have held a title in ECW, WCW WWF/E, NJPW, CMLL & AEW.

Maybe throw in a title in AAA as well.

Tag belt title would be ideal.

Riddle101

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I kind of want Jericho to win a title in TNA/Impact now there is a partnership there.

So he can have held a title in ECW, WCW WWF/E, NJPW, CMLL & AEW.

Maybe throw in a title in AAA as well.

Tag belt title would be ideal.

I'd like to see Kenny Omega win the Impact World Championship and hold both the Impact and AEW world titles simultaneously.

Lord TSC

1 year on from being in one of the most anticipated matches/angles on the card, has anyone's stock fallen as much over the last 12 months as Mandy Rose?

Otis is a shadow of himself too, but at least he can point to proper stories and stuff. But considering how big a deal Mandy was this time last year, how much the fans seemed to be behind her (which is a miracle, cause her look does not scream ultimate babyface), they have stripped everything interesting from her and sent her to catering. There's others who suffer such fates too, obviously, but considering how high she was last year and how low she is now, it's bizarre how little WWE have for her.

(Bayley too, but she's a more obvious example...)

J. Marston

Never saw that much in her, to be honest.

I think people are just surprised she isn't pushed because she has the whole "blonde bombshell" thing they associate with Vince but aside from Charlotte, it's been a while since that was the case. Sasha, Bayley, Becky, Asuka, Shayna don't really fit that mold and they've been the strongest pushes in recent years.

I remember reading that she has lots of fingers in pies outside of wrestling so she will be set when she's done with wrestling. WWE probably don't like someone looking out for themselves and not needing them, maybe that's why they stalled on her.

JP Liz V1

CastorTroy wrote: »

I don't see ads on tv too often these days, but how long has Daniel Bryan been in a coke zero ad?

Just seen the ad, features a few famous faces including Bryan yes yes yes, obviously WWE and Bryan had to give release permission to use

ThePott

Lord TSC wrote: »

1 year on from being in one of the most anticipated matches/angles on the card, has anyone's stock fallen as much over the last 12 months as Mandy Rose?

Saw someone mention this today and agreed but before that I was thinking of Sonya more. That was a hot angle and it seems like they got rid of it really quickly for no real reason.

Sonya had a lot of potential and now they have her in this Smackdown GM story that they scarcely acknowledge, I honestly forgot about it until this week. The women's division in general isn't being handled greatly at the moment in my opinion.

Agent Coulson

ThePott wrote: »

Saw someone mention this today and agreed but before that I was thinking of Sonya more. That was a hot angle and it seems like they got rid of it really quickly for no real reason.

Sonya had a lot of potential and now they have her in this Smackdown GM story that they scarcely acknowledge, I honestly forgot about it until this week. The women's division in general isn't being handled greatly at the moment in my opinion.

Well Sonya has had a lot to deal with in real life with the guy breaking into her house ready probably to rape and murder her.

Mandy was also in the house that night as well, so you know wrestling takes a back sit and rightly so to real life **** like that.

ThePott

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Well Sonya has had a lot to deal with in real life with the guy breaking into her house ready probably to rape and murder her.

Mandy was also in the house that night as well, so you know wrestling takes a back sit and rightly so to real life **** like that.

Oh of course but they have her back on tv and all I figured they'd use her better is all.

CastorTroy

Who would've thought the storyline loads of people were interested in would involve Otis, Mandy, Sonya and even Dolph Ziggler?
Out of them, Mandy is the only one with a match at Mania (or possibly the preshow).
Otis and Ziggler are the pre-preshow on Smackdown.

Loughc

The card is bang average....

The build has been muck....

The product is the worst it's been since 95 (IMO)

But yet I am hyped for Mania week, going to leave NXT until Saturday as a warm up so I have both nights to watch back to back. It's nice to feel excited for WWE for a change... no doubt I will regret it all come Monday morning.

The Raw after Mania means nothing again this year as there is no fans in attendance again so there's no point it'll be a bog standard Raw.

Blue_Dabadee

It is fair to say there is no replay value in WrestleMania anymore ever since after 31.

It is hard for me to even name ever single match that took place at WrestleMania last year.

The reason why I a lot think 30 was best modern day WrestleMania is because there is not much filler on the show.

beakerjoe

Loughc wrote: »

The card is bang average....

The build has been muck....

The product is the worst it's been since 95 (IMO)

But yet I am hyped for Mania week, going to leave NXT until Saturday as a warm up so I have both nights to watch back to back. It's nice to feel excited for WWE for a change... no doubt I will regret it all come Monday morning.

The Raw after Mania means nothing again this year as there is no fans in attendance again so there's no point it'll be a bog standard Raw.

I feel the card appears average because not only has the build for most part been extremely poor (no real long term planning beyond Randy v Fiend), but also due to their long term ability, or lack thereof, to create and build new stars.


Years of mismanagement and poor use of extremely talented performers coupled with virtually no forward planning is really coming home to roust.

And it will be worse come next year.

CastorTroy

Mania week was usually when other promotions would take advantage of the interest so was wondering are any of the other promotions doing anything for it? I know Impact is moving to Thursdays this week, but anything from RoH or any of the others that may still be active?

LineOfBeauty

CastorTroy wrote: »

Mania week was usually when other promotions would take advantage of the interest so was wondering are any of the other promotions doing anything for it? I know Impact is moving to Thursdays this week, but anything from RoH or any of the others that may still be active?

There's ongoing GCW and IWTV shows as we speak. I'm reading the discourse on my feed and I swear I've heard of less than 30% of the wrestlers named. I know barely anyone on the US Indie scene anymore, it's a mess that has gone a full 180 in terms of what it presents that appeals to me.

Horrible shame, at it's peak you'd get some really awesome shows with some of the best wrestlers in the world. For my money, one of the greatest matches ever took place at a Wrestlemania weekend (the famous Dragon Gate 6 man tag that stole the weekend in 2006) but those days are over and they have been for at least a couple of years.

RollieFingers

Bloodsport 6 is on tonight. Moxley vs Josh Barnett and Rocky Romero vs Chavo Guerrero Jr. the most recognizable names on the card.

LineOfBeauty

RollieFingers wrote: »

Bloodsport 6 is on tonight. Moxley vs Josh Barnett and Rocky Romero vs Chavo Guerrero Jr. the most recognizable names on the card.

That one I will watch but wrestlers passing out from performing in humid outdoor heat, puking and cards being completely changed from what was advertised is a pass from me. Plus there's Dragon Gate tomorrow at least.

OneEightSeven

Agent Coulson wrote: »

WTF I am getting an age verification to watch that YouTube video when did that become a thing?

https://www.neowin.net/news/youtube-will-launch-a-new-age-verification-requirement-for-some-european-users/

I submitted a photo of my passport two weeks ago. Kind of regretting it because my name and phone number is on the Facebook leak.

Agent Coulson

OneEightSeven wrote: »

https://www.neowin.net/news/youtube-will-launch-a-new-age-verification-requirement-for-some-european-users/

I submitted a photo of my passport two weeks ago. Kind of regretting it because my name and phone number is on the Facebook leak.

Ye I was never going to be giving them that kind of info to watch a video on YouTube.

LineOfBeauty

Apparently Mox/Barnett from Bloodsport was a banger. Sounds right up my alley and I was stuck watching Cole/O'Reilly from NXT while it was on. Sometimes we all make bad choices.

RollieFingers

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Apparently Mox/Barnett from Bloodsport was a banger. Sounds right up my alley and I was stuck watching Cole/O'Reilly from NXT while it was on. Sometimes we all make bad choices.

Man it was class, certainly lived up to the name of the event. And no melodrama or mid-match promos to be seen thankfully! Well worth checking out.

Riddle101

LineOfBeauty wrote: »

Apparently Mox/Barnett from Bloodsport was a banger. Sounds right up my alley and I was stuck watching Cole/O'Reilly from NXT while it was on. Sometimes we all make bad choices.

What kind of match was Mox/Barnett? Was it just a singles match or a hardcore style match (Although I suppose Bloodsport probably already alludes to it)

LineOfBeauty

Riddle101 wrote: »

What kind of match was Mox/Barnett? Was it just a singles match or a hardcore style match (Although I suppose Bloodsport probably already alludes to it)

Worked shoot. So Bloodsport is basically all worked shoot. The most relatable example I can give is think the style of match Kurt Angle and Samoa Joe worked when they headlined TNA Lockdown. It's in that kinda vein.

Agent Coulson

Sean Mooney & Todd Pettengill should be in the HoF.

Omackeral

Where are the Authors of Pain these days?

PopePalpatine

They got future endeavoured last September.

Omackeral

Ah yeah I know that but wondering had they surfaced anywhere since or are there any rumours of them going anywhere.

Riddle101

Looking at wrestling today with all the martial arts incorporated into it by the current generation of wrestlers would it be fair to say X-Pac was ahead of his time?

I know Japanese wrestling incorporates martial arts into their style so that is probably were X-Pac learned it from, but in WWF I don't think you saw many people using kicks as much as he did.

I was just looking at some of his old clips and I have to say his kicks were some of the best I have seen.

The White Wolf

Cena really is Superman going by his Twitter.

Acting, TV appearances, inspirational quotes every day and self help books. Where did this bloke come from? :pac:

TimesArrow

The White Wolf wrote: »

Cena really is Superman going by his Twitter.

Acting, TV appearances, inspirational quotes every day and self help books. Where did this bloke come from? :pac:

Can’t stand him. He’s completely disingenuous and totally up his own hole. The motivational stuff is unbearably cringe. Total Bella’s really gave an insight into what’s he’s really like. He also follows a couple of extreme far right lads on Twitter which might tell you something.

ThePott

TimesArrow wrote: »

He also follows a couple of extreme far right lads on Twitter which might tell you something.

To be fair he follows the most random people. Think he went through a phase of just adding random wrestling fans, so wonder how concious it is.

I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen some randomer on twitter with like 20 followers and one of them will be Cena, no joke.

Mecrab

Stupidly let a friend who never watched wrestling growing up spear and chokelslam me last night. It was on grass and the ****er proper slammed me! I was winded as **** and now it hurts when I laugh or cough... And to make matters when it was my turn the **** no sold my spear and made me look weak in front of the girlos!

Omackeral

Mecrab wrote: »

Stupidly let a friend who never watched wrestling growing up spear and chokelslam me last night. It was on grass and the ****er proper slammed me! I was winded as **** and now it hurts when I laugh or cough... And to make matters when it was my turn the **** no sold my spear and made me look weak in front of the girlos!

The White Wolf

Mecrab wrote: »

Stupidly let a friend who never watched wrestling growing up spear and chokelslam me last night. It was on grass and the ****er proper slammed me! I was winded as **** and now it hurts when I laugh or cough... And to make matters when it was my turn the **** no sold my spear and made me look weak in front of the girlos!

Reminds me of when on one random night knacker drinking a friend picked me up and F5ed me. I was grand.

I knew how to land.

ShagNastii

I loved Honky Tonk Man the character.

But the man is one of the bitterest, thin skinned, negative people I have ever seen.

The wrestling business has produced so many people with a chip on their shoulder, he has a boulder on both shoulders.

The White Wolf

I think Honky is like Cornette, half of it is just said to keep himself relevant.

B.A._Baracus

Mecrab wrote: »

Stupidly let a friend who never watched wrestling growing up spear and chokelslam me last night. It was on grass and the ****er proper slammed me! I was winded as **** and now it hurts when I laugh or cough... And to make matters when it was my turn the **** no sold my spear and made me look weak in front of the girlos!

He didn't know how to work, kid







:pac:

Itssoeasy

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

He didn't know how to work, kid







:pac:

Or to quote the late great dusty Rhodes. “Don’t do **** you don’t know how to do.”

The White Wolf

Honestly what's the story with Keith Lee? MVP gave quite a flat answer to a fan asking him would he take him into The Hurt Business. Something weird is going on.