Is anyone else starting to become a bit excited?

Tango One

I wouldnt blame whelo in any way. Its up to everyone to put there money in or not.

JohnnyFlash

Addison Fancy Macrame wrote: »

Shilling is an understatement

I’m really not trying to personalise things here but you’re the one on constantly talking about not buying presents for people and shoving all your savings into ‘buying sats’.

‘Traditional’ crypto is extremely risky and defi is just degenerate gambling masquerading as a new type of finance. I don’t see Whelo getting excited about this being any different than any other post around here. Everyone knows the risks involved.

q85dw7osi4lebg

Whatever you say pintman

q85dw7osi4lebg

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Ah now, everyone shills their own holdings and interests to an extent, where every value drop is another "buying opportunity" and so on

It's just unlucky for that project, but goes with the territory. It's a solid reminder for those with (and without) experience to only put in what they can comfortably afford to lose.

I don’t know it if can be 100% bad luck when HEX is part of the name. All crypto is risky even the non sh1tcoins. We are all guilty of being a little giddy when things look promising but starting to think we should have a pinned post so that rookies don’t get rekt when this happens next.

Grumpypants

Everyone has their own mind. Playing Crypto Alts is like betting on the grand national. You don't get to go back to the guy in the pub that gave you a sure thing when your horse gets shot on the first corner.

makeorbrake

rapul wrote: »

Ah it is dude, read back to about a week ago, so many positive posts which some will just buy on, and have. Your comparison is weak

Someone who doesn't make ANY distinction between projects has NO credibility. JF is the guy that for 3 years has told us that everything is shíte and there's nothing good whatsoever in this space.

Tango One

Grumpypants wrote: »

Everyone has their own mind. Playing Crypto Alts is like betting on the grand national. You don't get to go back to the guy in the pub that gave you a sure thing when your horse gets shot on the first corner.

And this might still recover there is still hope.

Pdoghue

Tango One wrote: »

I wouldnt blame whelo in any way. Its up to everyone to put there money in or not.

That's fair. I haven't lost much with this fiasco. I just put a few quid in as my first adventure with staking. We'll see what happens.

Dohnjoe

BTC and Eth holding their ground, but most alts are on the slide. The last 2 Decembers have been low points for crypto, hopefully there's a repeat of the rough same pattern this year

Whelo79

rapul wrote: »

Ah it is dude, read back to about a week ago, so many positive posts which some will just buy on, and have. Your comparison is weak

You are in some way going to lay any blame on this toward me? I'd knock you clean out if you had the balls to say that to my face. I'm supposed to pre-empt a vulnerability that dozens of devs and 3 audit forms didn't?

Everyone in crypto knows DYOR. Lots of people have made money in here from other posters recommendstions. This one didn't work out. I can guarantee I had more money in this than all of you put together, so go moan elsewhere.

Latest update from the founder.

No matter what happens, we will relaunch, and all the AXN/HEX2T people were holding at the time will be credited.
We will launch a Liquidity Reward Portal to incentivize members to add liquidity, bringing us right back to where we were.

It's incredibly unfortunate to wake up to this, but the beauty with blockchain, is that we can and will relaunch, with everyones AXN/HEX2T recorded and safe

rapul

Whelo79 wrote: »

You are in some way going to lay any blame on this toward me? I'd knock you clean out if you had the balls to say that to my face. I'm supposed to pre-empt a vulnerability that dozens of devs and 3 audit forms didn't?

Everyone in crypto knows DYOR. Lots of people have made money in here from other posters recommendstions. This one didn't work out. I can guarantee I had more money in this than all of you put together, so go moan elsewhere.

Latest update from the founder.

No matter what happens, we will relaunch, and all the AXN/HEX2T people were holding at the time will be credited.
We will launch a Liquidity Reward Portal to incentivize members to add liquidity, bringing us right back to where we were.

It's incredibly unfortunate to wake up to this, but the beauty with blockchain, is that we can and will relaunch, with everyones AXN/HEX2T recorded and safe

LOL, I was actually quite reserved but now yes I will actually say u cost people money and now are threatening me, well done.

Whelo79

rapul wrote: »

LOL, I was actually quite reserved but now yes I will actually say u cost people money and now are threatening me, well done.

Head off back to watch your soap operas pal. You are safer there than in the real world.

Apologies to anyone who lost money on the back of this. Hold onto your tokens and see where it goes over he next few months. The dev team have said they will release a proposed timeline on how they plan to move forward in the next 24 hours or so.

rapul

Whelo79 wrote: »

Head off back to watch your soap operas pal. You are safer there than in the real world.

Haha pathetic grow up, your actually proving oul Johnny right about angry men on the net, grow a pair yourself child, and stop shilling your shïtcoins

KilOit

If we go the route of blaming better ban the forum because we can't talk about crypto. Everyone here should be well aware of the risks

rapul

KilOit wrote: »

If we go the route of blaming better ban the forum because we can't talk about crypto. Everyone here should be well aware of the risks

I didn't blame i said kind of, but oul Whelo there went on the defensive and apparently would knock me out, big man, so yes then I blamed him but I was reserved and expressing only my opinion at the start. I'm out anyway, just calling it as I see it.

Donegal1234

To change the topic and a bit to good news. Coinbase earn have a earn campaign out today for ALGO.

Answer a few questions and get 6$ dollars free ALGO. Just got email today. Everyone should check it out.

Just google Coinbase earn.

One More Toy

Donegal1234 wrote: »

To change the topic and a bit to good news. Coinbase earn have a earn campaign out today for ALGO.

Answer a few questions and get 6$ dollars free ALGO. Just got email today. Everyone should check it out.

Just google Coinbase earn.

Thanks, saw MKR too if people haven't already done it

el diablo

Ooh the drama. Glad I stayed away from this Axion thing. Anyway, probably best if you start a separate thread for it.

Irish_rat

Grumpypants wrote: »

Everyone has their own mind. Playing Crypto Alts is like betting on the grand national.

There is alts and then there is crap on uniswap

stockshares

PayPal CEO on their move into Crypto
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2020/11/paypal-ceo-explains-how-his-firm-will-increase-utility-of-cryptocurrencies/

Pdoghue

stockshares wrote: »

PayPal CEO on their move into Crypto
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2020/11/paypal-ceo-explains-how-his-firm-will-increase-utility-of-cryptocurrencies/

Interesting.

Pdoghue

Been listening to a lot of podcasts on crypto during these times. Saifdean Ammous (have read his book 'The Bitcoin Standard' too) and Stephan Livera are two I listen to. What a lot of these guys have in common is that they are extremely smart logical advocates of BTC (maybe not altcoins), but also with extreme libertarian views on for example Covid19, government interference, taxation also. Also climate change deniers. Wacko stuff.

Listened to Livera interview a former UKIP MEP who expounded on his views on banking, BTC, and the EU, with a fair dollop of his racist views thrown in, which Livera just laughed at without challenging him on it. Would be interested to hear people's views on these guys, and if you can recommend any more rational advocates of BTC and crypto.

Dohnjoe

Pdoghue wrote: »

Been listening to a lot of podcasts on crypto during these times. Saifdean Ammous (have read his book 'The Bitcoin Standard' too) and Stephan Livera are two I listen to. What a lot of these guys have in common is that they are extremely smart logical advocates of BTC (maybe not altcoins), but also with extreme libertarian views on for example Covid19, government interference, taxation also. Also climate change deniers. Wacko stuff.

It's definitely a common theme in crypto.

makeorbrake

Pdoghue wrote: »

Listened to Livera interview a former UKIP MEP who expounded on his views on banking, BTC, and the EU, with a fair dollop of his racist views thrown in, which Livera just laughed at without challenging him on it. Would be interested to hear people's views on these guys, and if you can recommend any more rational advocates of BTC and crypto.

I listened to that podcast last night - whilst also getting a bit of work done.
On the one hand, I don't think many Irish people would have any affinity with Livera's guest. I also hate coming across the covid commentary from all of these guys (particularly Livera) on my crypto-twitter feed.

Tease the politics out of it though - and that doesn't mean that there isn't intelligence and a point to what they're saying. The old UKKIP crony as a case in point. Sure he comes across as a pompous old money right wing brit - but he had a good understanding of the value of gold vs. state money. Likewise, it was interesting to see how he has come to the conclusion that bitcoin is the way to go (or to be included as part of one of the ways to go).

Having left Ireland in 2018, I've ran into plenty of crypto-headz and they tend to be right wing. I do see cross-over between the decentralised crypto movement and libertarian ideals - and I'm down with a lot of them. However, for me too - they go too far in their thinking. We don't come from that type of background in Ireland so it's hard to get the head round. In the meantime, I think you look past it and pull out what you think is relevant. Livera still has a quality podcast with quality guests.

Pdoghue

makeorbrake wrote: »

I listened to that podcast last night - whilst also getting a bit of work done.
On the one hand, I don't think many Irish people would have any affinity with Livera's guest. I also hate coming across the covid commentary from all of these guys (particularly Livera) on my crypto-twitter feed.

Tease the politics out of it though - and that doesn't mean that there isn't intelligence and a point to what they're saying. The old UKKIP crony as a case in point. Sure he comes across as a pompous old money right wing brit - but he had a good understanding of the value of gold vs. state money. Likewise, it was interesting to see how he has come to the conclusion that bitcoin is the way to go (or to be included as part of one of the ways to go).

Having left Ireland in 2018, I've ran into plenty of crypto-headz and they tend to be right wing. I do see cross-over between the decentralised crypto movement and libertarian ideals - and I'm down with a lot of them. However, for me too - they go too far in their thinking. We don't come from that type of background in Ireland so it's hard to get the head round. In the meantime, I think you look past it and pull out what you think is relevant. Livera still has a quality podcast with quality guests.

Yea, I can appreciate and agree with the argumentation made about BTC as hard money vs fiat/central banks. Ammous 'The Bitcoin Standard' was very convincing in that regard. What I find bizarre is his stuff about blaming fiat money for the alleged lamentable state of modern art, which he maintains is incomparable with the art created during the era of the gold standard. He also has a thing about 'fiat food' and fossil fuel energy v renewables, and has a go at Keynes personally.

So it's hard to know if they have these extreme views/serious chips on shoulders/mental blocks - because they're BTC advocates, or if they are BTC advocates because they have these extreme views.

As to where it's all going, that's what I'm trying to figure out. It's not teased out properly in these discussions beyond what the advantages of BTC are. PlanB has a plan to 'go dark' if BTC gains sufficient traction, but it's as if these guys are so caught up in their belief in BTC that they don't consider the wider societal implications.

stockshares

stockshares wrote: »

PayPal CEO on their move into Crypto
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2020/11/paypal-ceo-explains-how-his-firm-will-increase-utility-of-cryptocurrencies/

More on PayPal
https://www.coindesk.com/paypal-ceo-discusses-expansive-digital-wallet-plans-on-q3-earnings-call

Quote
PayPal Raises Crypto Buying Limit to $15K/Week for ‘Eager’ Customers

Gooey Looey

Are they going to hold BTC to the value or is it just an IOU like Revolut?

q85dw7osi4lebg

Gooey Looey wrote: »

Are they going to hold BTC to the value or is it just an IOU like Revolut?

Depends on who you ask! No comment from themselves yet as far as I know. My guess is it's just a derivative due to not being able to withdraw. Problem is if Bitcoin goes to $100,000 then I'm not sure how they'd pay their IOUs.

Lex Luthor

broke out of $14k again

Bitcoin doesnt care who the US President is

DopeTech

Well CRO is going through the floor. Hopefully it take a turn soon.

makeorbrake

Pdoghue wrote: »

What I find bizarre is his stuff about blaming fiat money for the alleged lamentable state of modern art, which he maintains is incomparable with the art created during the era of the gold standard.

Luckily, it seems I had gotten up to stick the kettle on for this bit!

Pdoghue wrote: »

He also has a thing about 'fiat food' and fossil fuel energy v renewables, and has a go at Keynes personally.

I didn't pick up on the fiat food thing or Keynes (although I've heard criticism of Keynesian economics before and I think it's very much a conversation worth having. Remember - both that guy and Livera are fans of the Austrian school of economics). Caught the tail end of him muttering something negative about renewables - and I just thought, I've no idea what you're selling on that but I'm not buying it!

Pdoghue wrote: »

So it's hard to know if they have these extreme views/serious chips on shoulders/mental blocks - because they're BTC advocates, or if they are BTC advocates because they have these extreme views.#

It's not so niche anymore so there will be all sorts of views you'll come across in crypto now. However, as with anything else - you won't agree with everything someone comes out with. Everyone has to try and make sense of it for themselves - and with that, the conclusions may differ.

Today, I went through a podcast that drives me up the wall (Peter bloody McCormack). I'd avoided it for weeks. He talks all over his podcast about nonsensical shíte - time that should be left to knowledgeable guests. But he still has knowledgable guests on from time to time - so I had to suffer through Peter's shíte-talk.
The point is - pick out what works in terms of informing yourself and make your own mind up from there.

Pdoghue wrote: »

As to where it's all going, that's what I'm trying to figure out. It's not teased out properly in these discussions beyond what the advantages of BTC are. PlanB has a plan to 'go dark' if BTC gains sufficient traction, but it's as if these guys are so caught up in their belief in BTC that they don't consider the wider societal implications.

Yeah, I learned of PlanB's utterance on that a few months back - I thought maybe his ego or paranoia are getting the better of him...not sure which.

Gooey Looey

DopeTech wrote: »

Well CRO is going through the floor. Hopefully it take a turn soon.

CEL is going the other way, it's the platform crypto.com used to be (without the visa). Any cashback and rewards I earn on CDC I
have started to send to Celcius

makeorbrake

Addison Fancy Macrame wrote: »

Depends on who you ask! No comment from themselves yet as far as I know. My guess is it's just a derivative due to not being able to withdraw. Problem is if Bitcoin goes to $100,000 then I'm not sure how they'd pay their IOUs.

They were rumoured to be putting an accusation deal together for Bitgo and they have made murmurings that suggest this is just a starting point - so in that respect, it's encouraging.

Mucashinto

I am starting to become a bit excited about my BTC.

Bought in May and it's the best I've felt about it yet tbh. The things that were nagging me at various stages - looking like it was correlated with the stock market, it's constant rise and then quick sell off and defi/alt-coins going supersonic on a whim - all seem to have weakened atm, and not to tempt fate, but I'm all in with the 'we're going on a bull run' crowd. The mess of the US elections just strenghtening it for me tbh, the old ways are not looking good atm.

Bring it fecking on

q85dw7osi4lebg

Lex Luthor

Mucashinto wrote: »

I am starting to become a bit excited about my BTC.

Bought in May and it's the best I've felt about it yet tbh. The things that were nagging me at various stages - looking like it was correlated with the stock market, it's constant rise and then quick sell off and defi/alt-coins going supersonic on a whim - all seem to have weakened atm, and not to tempt fate, but I'm all in with the 'we're going on a bull run' crowd. The mess of the US elections just strenghtening it for me tbh, the old ways are not looking good atm.

Bring it fecking on

when people start to get excited, thats when you should be wary of a retrace

I'm sitting on the fence at the moment cos I just feel its getting a bit euphoric

q85dw7osi4lebg

Incredible year as a Hodler and DCA buyer of Bitcoin. However I want it to slow down a bit, I'm not personally ready for $15,000+, had been hoping to throw one more large amount into it in about 6 weeks or so. Hopefully a little sideways action from here.

Bob24

Lex Luthor wrote: »

when people start to get excited, thats when you should be wary of a retrace

I'm sitting on the fence at the moment cos I just feel its getting a bit euphoric

Yeah agree, but at the same time I think quite a few of us think that way. One could turn this around and say that when too many people are waiting for a dip to buy it, that dip won’t be very deep.

stockshares

ETH 2.0 due to launch soon.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/eth-breaks-multiple-records-as-eth-2-0-approaches

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Ethereum (ETH) has hit multiple records amid news that ETH 2.0 could launch as early as Dec 1, according to crypto analytics firm Glassnode.

Today's launch of the deposit contract introduced the ability for users to deposit 32 Ether required to participate in staking. ETH 2.0's beacon chain genesis will take place on Dec. 1 if at least 16,384 deposits of 32 ETH each are received. That’s a total of 524,288 ETH, or about $200 million worth

Lex Luthor

Bob24 wrote: »

Yeah agree, but at the same time I think quite a few of us think that way. One could turn this around and say that when too many people are waiting for a dip to buy it, that dip won’t be very deep.

You could potentially see a lot of FOMO'ing in now as these levels havent been experienced for a long time

I personally would like to see another retrace, I took redundancy end of Sep and want to throw some of it in, but I'm waiting to finalize my next job before committing any funds in case it drags out

In a bit of a catch 22 as I have a 6 month contract to start in 11 days and have this funny feeling by the end of it in May the corn will be a lot higher and I'll have missed the boat, but the uncertainty of next year has me being cautious to an extent.

I've got a couple interviews lined up in the next 4-5 days for permanent positions and if I'm successful with either of them and prices are still ok, I'll be going all in

A small retrace now would be good for the market aswell

q85dw7osi4lebg

A great day for the parish

cnocbui

Next question, does a used lambo, one careful owner, count? :cool:

q85dw7osi4lebg

cnocbui wrote: »

Next question, does a used lambo, one careful owner, count? :cool:

A Lambo is a Lambo sir.

Lex Luthor

$15k is in sight
Had to refresh my screen to believe it
All my alts are knocking it out of the park aswell

Seriously considering taking some profits before Friday

q85dw7osi4lebg

$15,000 was made of chocolate

Bob24

Addison Fancy Macrame wrote: »

$15,000 was made of chocolate

Is it premature to start thinking of ATH? ;-) (I am expecting/hoping for some kind of correction before that, but I have to say things are escalating quicker than I expected).

Lex Luthor

Bob24 wrote: »

Is it premature to start thinking of ATH? ;-) (I am expecting/hoping for some kind of correction before that, but I have to say things are escalating quicker than I expected).

It was like this a few months ago when it stepped up for 9-10 days in a row and printed green candles daily

The only thing is there can’t be too many sellers between here and 20k from the last bull run

Let’s see how it pans out

There’s a few people I know hiding right now and keeping their mouth shut

I suggested to them to buy @ €5k and they all laughed

q85dw7osi4lebg

Bob24 wrote: »

Is it premature to start thinking of ATH? ;-) (I am expecting/hoping for some kind of correction before that, but I have to say things are escalating quicker than I expected).

I didn’t expect to see $15,000 so soon, so anything is possible.

There is little to no resistance above us looking at the charts. If not this side of Christmas, we’ll see ATH early spring. 2021 will be wild.

I reckon still looking at a 2-3 x from here by end of 2021 so will continue to buy DCA with double buys on the dips as Fiat becomes available.

Enjoy the ride

Irish_rat

A few more coins added to Coinbase, mana being probably the most well known one.

crushproof

I'm currently all in ETH, reckon I should stick or jump back into BTC? Crazy prices lately