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David's going Dairying.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Not a decision for today or tomorrow but do you think you'll have to paint the walls white now with the lack of reflection of light from the underside of those sheets?

    Normal sheets have a white underside to bounce the light back down. The clear will allow the light go straight through to the international space station.
    You'll be in the pit on a dark winter/spring evening and looking up at a black hole where the roof is.

    Maybe it mightnt be an issue?




    He's going to paint the underside of the clear sheets with white gloss. So that they let in sunlight during the day and reflect in the artificial light at night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Not a decision for today or tomorrow but do you think you'll have to paint the walls white now with the lack of reflection of light from the underside of those sheets?

    Normal sheets have a white underside to bounce the light back down. The clear will allow the light go straight through to the international space station.
    You'll be in the pit on a dark winter/spring evening and looking up at a black hole where the roof is.

    Maybe it mightnt be an issue?

    I have paint to go on the walls, I'm painting them Saturday, not going with white either. I'll be putting the lights down in the pit. Not too worried about the reflection as theres the same issue with fibre cement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,406 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I see that the new concrete has been christened :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,528 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Is this a bespoke layout or are these mostly a copy of proven designs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭staples7


    Nice work, will be watching closely as we have a similar job starting next year. First time hearing of the clear roof so very interested in seeing how that works out. Are they as rigid as a normal sheet or are they closer to the old clear sheet that would be in every shed. Was there much of a price difference?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Is this a bespoke layout or are these mostly a copy of proven designs?

    A bit of both. The pit depth and widths are to suit me. The lay out for cow flow, shed heights and widths are from proven designs that I have worked in over a number of years. The sheeting was a last minute decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    staples7 wrote: »
    Nice work, will be watching closely as we have a similar job starting next year. First time hearing of the clear roof so very interested in seeing how that works out. Are they as rigid as a normal sheet or are they closer to the old clear sheet that would be in every shed. Was there much of a price difference?

    Its rigid. It's 6 mm in thickness with 3 layers in it, it's heat sealed and UV resistant. There is a lighter and darker colour options I went with the middle ground. Cost about 1,500 more. The sheets were made to suit the shed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,907 ✭✭✭Odelay


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Its rigid. It's 6 mm in thickness with 3 layers in it, it's heat sealed and UV resistant. There is a lighter and darker colour options I went with the middle ground. Cost about 1,500 more. The sheets were made to suit the shed.

    1500 more than normal clear sheeting or than 0.6mm corrugated steel cladding? If so it was a no brainier, something for me to think about. Is it resistant to condensation?

    Lovely progress, well done to you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Odelay wrote: »
    1500 more than normal clear sheeting or than 0.6mm corrugated steel cladding? If so it was a no brainier, something for me to think about. Is it resistant to condensation?

    Lovely progress, well done to you.

    1500 more than the 0.6 mm. They say it is, but I'll let ye know after a few months what it's like.

    Great progress being made and the weather has been good so far. I went with the people I know to get the job done well and so far that has been the case.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,307 ✭✭✭tanko


    What will be going in the other half of the shed from the milking parlour?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    tanko wrote: »
    What will be going in the other half of the shed from the milking parlour?

    Drafting area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,815 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    tanko wrote: »
    What will be going in the other half of the shed from the milking parlour?

    Sitting room including beer fridge :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    tanko wrote: »
    What will be going in the other half of the shed from the milking parlour?

    Handling facilities and a drafting crush in a few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Sitting room including beer fridge :pac:

    :D I'd never have to worry about drink driving the morning after.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,724 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Sitting room including beer fridge :pac:

    Man shed?:D bit draughty though:pac: Needs a stove.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Man shed?:D bit draughty though:pac: Needs a stove.

    Could be done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


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    Making good progress in the last few days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    More images

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭minerleague


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    More images

    Nice, pity to dirty it now with cows!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    More images

    Good stuff lad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Tileman


    When do have it finished up for David. When is the first calving due

    Are u missing the lambing this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,985 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    Tileman wrote: »
    When do have it finished up for David. When is the first calving due

    Are u missing the lambing this year?

    Did you like the sheep David? Just too little return is it compared to dairy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭morphy87


    davidk1394 wrote: »
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    Making good progress in the last few days

    It will be some job when it’s finished


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Did you like the sheep David? Just too little return is it compared to dairy?

    I liked the sheep and I still have a handful knocking around the place. I don't think they'll never fully go ! There is 3 of working on the farm and I was contracting. It worked well because I had very little living expenses but I knew if I decided to build a house or start a family there wasn't going to be enough money there. My parents are in there early 60's and there is physical work involved in sheep even though we have good facilities. So it was on the cards something had to change.

    When I came back from Australia I decided to buy heifer calves with the money I had and make a plan to go at cows and if the plan didn't work out at least I can sell the heifers. What really put the ball rolling was getting a job offer to go out to Saudi Arabia to the dairy farms. That's when we made the decision collectively that now is the time to make the change or forget about it.

    My parents are a massive help throughout this project. My mother did a lot of the paper work for the land transfer, banks, changing over the herd no. My father was helping at the contracting and then day to day work, his gifted at fencing and handling stock, spotting if an animal is off form, these things all helped getting us to where we are now. I'm really looking forward to seeing the first row of cows going into the parlor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,310 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    I liked the sheep and I still have a handful knocking around the place. I don't think they'll never fully go ! There is 3 of working on the farm and I was contracting. It worked well because I had very little living expenses but I knew if I decided to build a house or start a family there wasn't going to be enough money there. My parents are in there early 60's and there is physical work involved in sheep even though we have good facilities. So it was on the cards something had to change.

    When I came back from Australia I decided to buy heifer calves with the money I had and make a plan to go at cows and if the plan didn't work out at least I can sell the heifers. What really put the ball rolling was getting a job offer to go out to Saudi Arabia to the dairy farms. That's when we made the decision collectively that now is the time to make the change or forget about it.

    My parents are a massive help throughout this project. My mother did a lot of the paper work for the land transfer, banks, changing over the herd no. My father was helping at the contracting and then day to day work, his gifted at fencing and handling stock, spotting if an animal is off form, these things all helped getting us to where we are now. I'm really looking forward to seeing the first row of cows going into the parlor.

    Best of luck with everything in your first year milking. A good parlour makes milking a pleasure when the cows are settled and trained in. You won’t regret putting in the feeders either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


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    Another important delivery today. We still have another 18 days until the first heifer is due. The parlor is installed. Wiring and plumbing is going ahead next week. The 3 phase should be installed the middle of February.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    davidk1394 wrote: »
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    Another important delivery today. We still have another 18 days until the first heifer is due. The parlor is installed. Wiring and plumbing is going ahead next week. The 3 phase should be installed the middle of February.

    You just have to fill it now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Reggie. wrote: »
    You just have to fill it now

    Hopefully in a few years :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,340 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farm-fragmentation-and-lameness-pushed-me-to-go-oad-milking/

    Just came across this regarding a lad OAD milking. 635 margin per cow on 4400 litres at high solids

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    An option but tad is still economically better. Know lads giving 1400 litres more on the same percentages, even here with a young herd I sent in 100kg more ms than that, costs higher but not enough to negate the extra 100kgs/ ms sold


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Looking for a few opinions. What wash down pump do people have for washing down parlors or yards. It'll be a 40mm pipe and I have the choice of single phase or 3 phase. Would I be better off putting in a wash down pump with or without a pressure vessel ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,936 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    Looking for a few opinions. What wash down pump do people have for washing down parlors or yards. It'll be a 40mm pipe and I have the choice of single phase or 3 phase. Would I be better off putting in a wash down pump with or without a pressure vessel ?

    There's no pressure vessel on the volume washer here. Just a straight pump with a pressure switch after.
    It's a single phase and I think 1.5hp. Works away fine bar you might have to press the reset button on the pressure switch an odd time and then change the capacitor whenever that goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    A holding tank before the washer. Depends on the set up but water from a plate cooler could be reused.


  • Registered Users Posts: 336 ✭✭The Rabbi


    With a lot of natural light in the parlour you will get moss, consider adding chlorine to the wash down water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    The first heifer to calf and she had 2 heifer calves :D The parlor is nearly ready and 3 phase is going in Tuesday. A lot of time and dedication to getting to where we are today but it was worth it all.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,340 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    davidk1394 wrote: »
    The first heifer to calf and she had 2 heifer calves :D The parlor is nearly ready and 3 phase is going in Tuesday. A lot of time and dedication to getting to where we are today but it was worth it all.

    Beginners luck

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,076 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Best of luck with it all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Thanks everyone. Hopefully the luck will continue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Best of luck


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,406 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Delighted for you David and you have two replacement heifers already. I'm looking forward to the pics of the first row in the parlour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,206 ✭✭✭davidk1394


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    The first morning in the parlor. Up to yesterday I was using a single unit machine in a crush to milk 15 cows. 20 calved so far with very little difficulty. Cows and calves are good and healthy. There's a few more things to finish but in 2 weeks everything should be done.

    Images aren't too clear they were taken very quickly while some of the clusters stayed on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Get a doc to prescribe valium for the week, good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,528 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    All starts now!
    Best of luck with the venture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭timple23


    Give the floors/bottoms of walls a good wetting of power hose before milking, it makes washing parlour out much easier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Very best of luck kid


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Very best of luck kid

    +1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Well done David. Great to follow your journey here on boards and the best of luck in the coming years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Well done, followed this thread from the start. Best of luck lad. It's been a great trip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭cjpm


    The very best of luck Dave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Very best of luck!! Keep us up dated on how you getting on!


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