Taxi Driver allowed continue working on condition females sit in the back seat

meeeeh

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Would you agree immigrants should be thrown out of the country if they commit rape? Unfortunately we have our won scum to deal with as you pointed out.

Yeah I would. But that's not the point. Offences described in this thread are relatively minor. The scandal is that man is still able to work as a taxi driver. Yet there is always someone who points out that this was not commented on because the perpetrator is not Irish. More heinous crimes committed by homegrown scum are also not commented on. We all know that the only reason this thread was started is because perpetrator is not Irish.

iebamm2580

meeeeh wrote: »

Yeah I would. But that's not the point. Offences described in this thread are relatively minor. The scandal is that man is still able to work as a taxi driver. Yet there is always someone who points out that this was not commented on because the perpetrator is not Irish. More heinous crimes committed by homegrown scum are also not commented on. We all know that the only reason this thread was started is because perpetrator is not Irish.

Its the point i was looking for, immigrants that break the law should be ****ed out and its not racist to say so. We cant help with our own scum, we have to live with that, but at least we should be able to get rid of immigrants here who break the law.

tayto lover

meeeeh wrote: »

Yeah I would. But that's not the point. Offences described in this thread are relatively minor. The scandal is that man is still able to work as a taxi driver. Yet there is always someone who points out that this was not commented on because the perpetrator is not Irish. More heinous crimes committed by homegrown scum are also not commented on. We all know that the only reason this thread was started is because perpetrator is not Irish.

I’ve seen people who commit sexual offenses from all walks of life receiving the same treatment on here. It’s not just foreigners as you seem to think.

Also the offenses are not “relatively minor” at all. They are sexual offenses which leave people traumatized and which could have got a lot more serious but for the bravery of the women involves.

kildare lad

meeeeh wrote: »

Yeah I would. But that's not the point. Offences described in this thread are relatively minor. The scandal is that man is still able to work as a taxi driver. Yet there is always someone who points out that this was not commented on because the perpetrator is not Irish. More heinous crimes committed by homegrown scum are also not commented on. We all know that the only reason this thread was started is because perpetrator is not Irish.

Do you think he should be allowed to stay in Ireland after sexually assaulting two women ?

Gatling

Humanity is lost in the current judiciary system and insanity has taken over ,


Absolutely disgusting decision by the judge ,the gardai and dpp need to take action over this

Sleeper12

meeeeh wrote:

Yeah I would. But that's not the point. Offences described in this thread are relatively minor. The scandal is that man is still able to work as a taxi driver. Yet there is always someone who points out that this was not commented on because the perpetrator is not Irish. More heinous crimes committed by homegrown scum are also not commented on. We all know that the only reason this thread was started is because perpetrator is not Irish.

It doesn't help that OP decided to change minor sexual assault charges into a fully blown rapist. The thread title is a deliberate attempt to stir up the villagers with the pitchforks.

meeeeh

tayto lover wrote: »

I’ve seen people who commit sexual offenses from all walks of life receiving the same treatment on here. It’s not just foreigners as you seem to think.

Also the offenses are not “relatively minor” at all. They are sexual offenses which leave people traumatized and which could have got a lot more serious but for the bravery of the women involves.

I should say competitively minor to father raping his daughter. Nobody started the thread about that despite terribly sad and dignified victim's statement released today.

I'm not minimising the offences but I find it sickening when sexual crimes are only used as stick to beat immigrants. The same people will the complain about metoo and how women are constantly falsely accusing men of rape. It seems women are only believed by some here when perpetrator is not Irish.

kildare lad

meeeeh wrote: »

I should say competitively minor to father raping his daughter. Nobody started the thread about that despite terribly sad and dignified victim's statement released today.

I'm not minimising the offences but I find it sickening when sexual crimes are only used as stick to beat immigrants. The same people will the complain about metoo and how women are constantly falsely accusing men of rape. It seems women are only believed by some here when perpetrator is not Irish.

You never answered my question , do u think he should be allowed to stay in the country , after sexually assaulting them 2 women

meeeeh

kildare lad wrote: »

Do you think he should be allowed to stay in Ireland after sexually assaulting two women ?

In this case I don't really care. He admitted his crimes, he is out on bail so I suspect he won't get much of a custodial sentence. It would be very harsh in his family to deport them because father is scum.

meeeeh

kildare lad wrote: »

You never answered my question , do u think he should be allowed to stay in the country , after sexually assaulting them 2 women

You never answered why you think rape in the family is ok when it's committed by Irish.

Yamanoto

Here's a Brasilian chap who entered the country on a student visa, has been convicted of supplying a substantial amount of pills & weed from his rickshaw in Dublin city centre & given a suspended sentence of 6 months.

The judge initially suspended the sentence on the proviso the defendant left the jurisdiction, but his counsel successfully argued he was helping support a partner and her child (who was not his own).

The guy should absolutely be out on his arse for such an offence & the same should happen this Taxi driver if convicted.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/conviction-of-brazilian-rickshaw-driver-for-drug-dealing-prompts-warning-by-judge-796720.html

kildare lad

meeeeh wrote: »

In this case I don't really care. He admitted his crimes, he is out on bail so I suspect he won't get much of a custodial sentence. It would be very harsh in his family to deport them because father is scum.

Ye, sure everyone needs their sex offending dad around,If he assaulted your daughter you might have a different opinion . Ah sure let him stay here, Ireland has loads of native sex offenders , what's another one.

kildare lad

meeeeh wrote: »

You never answered why you think rape in the family is ok when it's committed by Irish.

Man your a clown, I never said it was ok, I think people who aren't from Ireland that commit crime should be deport , we've enough scum here as it is , without taking more in.

Sleeper12

Yamanoto wrote:

The guy should absolutely be out on his arse for such an offence & the same should happen this Taxi driver if convicted.

Out on his arse for pills and weed? You're having a laugh right?

meeeeh

kildare lad wrote: »

Ye, sure everyone needs their sex offending dad around,If he assaulted your daughter you might have a different opinion . Ah sure let him stay here, Ireland has loads of native sex offenders , what's another one.

Oh spare me. Unlike you I actually know how sexual assault feels like and what it does to you. That's why I don't use it only as tool for cheap political point scoring. You don't have any sympathy for the victims, you are delighted this happened to them so you can use it for anti immigrant rants. And that's the hypocrisy of threads like this one.

Edgware

meeeeh wrote: »

In this case I don't really care. He admitted his crimes, he is out on bail so I suspect he won't get much of a custodial sentenceTV . It would be very harsh in his family to deport them because father is scum.

Very harsh! Well tough ****. When they are back in their hovel they know who to blame

Edgware

meeeeh wrote: »

Oh spare me. Unlike you I actually know how sexual assault feels like and what it does to you. That's why I don't use it only as tool for cheap political point scoring. You don't have any sympathy for the victims, you are delighted this happened to them so you can use it for anti immigrant rants. And that's the hypocrisy of threads like this one.

No you don't. You are only making that up to support your argument

The Satanist

Yamanoto wrote: »

Here's a Brasilian chap who entered the country on a student visa, has been convicted of supplying a substantial amount of pills & weed from his rickshaw in Dublin city centre & given a suspended sentence of 6 months.

The judge initially suspended the sentence on the proviso the defendant left the jurisdiction, but his counsel successfully argued he was helping support a partner and her child (who was not his own).

The guy should absolutely be out on his arse for such an offence & the same should happen this Taxi driver if convicted.

http://www.irishexamin...by-judge-796720.html

The only thing that highlights, in my opinion, is the stupidity and naivety of some judges.

The Brazilian dude in this case has not been shown ti be a grave threat to women.

kildare lad

meeeeh wrote: »

Oh spare me. Unlike you I actually know how sexual assault feels like and what it does to you. That's why I don't use it only as tool for cheap political point scoring. You don't have any sympathy for the victims, you are delighted this happened to them so you can use it for anti immigrant rants. And that's the hypocrisy of threads like this one.

Ok you caught me there , I'm a racist. What crimes in your opinion would it take to justify someone to get deported. Obviously not sexual assault though

sdanseo

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It was the only decision the judge could have made.

How on earth do you come to that conclusion?

The chap is a confessed predator and as a result a substantial and immediate threat to the community. He should be have been denied bail outright.

Race creed and origin don't come into it. Fact and risk should.

Wtf ?

Little Scallywag, I know a Taxi Driver and he is a Rascal too.

suicide_circus

the primary function of the state is to protect the citizenry.

each country will have some violent and predatory citizens but they are the states problem.

when a non citizen is convicted of a serious crime, the state should take its opportunity to reduce the quantity of violent predators by exercising its right to deport thereby reducing risk to it's citizenry. it should be standard practice.

listermint

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Agree fully. But I would imagine its almost impossible to deport someone from this country given the lengthy legal process. And he is probably a citizen at this stage. So to deport him, you'd have to strip him of Irish citizenship which again I think is impossible. So nope, all the legal cards are in his favour.

But, sexual assault should mean a lifetime ban from being a taxi driver. I hope even liberal lefty types recognise that.

Citizenship can be revoked . So I believe. Fella in work going through application process and read that bit out .

I suppose it's appropriate for serious crimes

Geuze

yosser hughes wrote: »

Surely someone convicted of such crimes should not be allowed drive a taxi? It is utterly bizarre.
Apart from that why is this man in Ireland?
Do we need to import Taxi drivers from Pakistan?
There is another taxi driver from Pakistan due in court for sexual assault around Christmas.
There was/is a recognised pattern of this behaviour in the UK.

Yes.

We have 200,000 on the Live Register.

No need for much non-EU workers.

Why and how are non-EU people getting into the country to become taxi drivers?

We now know about the hundreds of sham marriages by illegal male Asian immigrants.

We also know about the sham taxi licences / forged documentation.

Edgware

Geuze wrote: »

Yes.

We have 200,000 on the Live Register.

No need for much non-EU workers.

Why and how are non-EU people getting into the country to become taxi drivers?

We now know about the hundreds of sham marriages by illegal male Asian immigrants.

We also know about the sham taxi licences / forged documentation.

Maybe his cousins in Bradford could fix him up with a job.

Sweetemotion

meeeeh wrote: »

Oh spare me. Unlike you I actually know how sexual assault feels like and what it does to you. That's why I don't use it only as tool for cheap political point scoring. You don't have any sympathy for the victims, you are delighted this happened to them so you can use it for anti immigrant rants. And that's the hypocrisy of threads like this one.

You have some neck, accusing people of cheap point scoring. When in every thread like this you keep bringing up that article from Kerry to try and tarnish all Irish men, while it was condemned by 99% of the population.

The hypocrisy here is, You're ok to try and tarnish all Irish men with one incident and then take the morale high ground when someone else does the same.

meeeeh

Edgware wrote: »

No you don't. You are only making that up to support your argument

and I bet that you would believe me if I said the perpetrator was Turkish. So predictable...

4068ac1elhodqr

Geuze wrote: »

Yes.

We have 200,000 on the Live Register.

No need for much non-EU workers.

Why and how are non-EU people getting into the country to become taxi drivers?

We now know about the hundreds of sham marriages by illegal male Asian immigrants.

We also know about the sham taxi licences / forged documentation.

Criminal people trafficking gangs (with links to similar, from the uk). Operation Vantage suggested this uk link, and estimated €20m funds operating within for illegal people trafficking, interconnected with the document forgery industry, and sham marriages of grooms from four specific countries (including Bangladesh) in Asia.

E.g. If you buy a fake pair of Nike runners, you're directly funding more of the same sweatshop exploitation/slavery, and directly fund the gang paymasters that import, and take their cut from each and every sale.

Phil.x

Sweden comes to mind.

meeeeh

Sweetemotion wrote: »

You have some neck, accusing people of cheap point scoring. When in every thread like this you keep bringing up that article from Kerry to try and tarnish all Irish men, while it was condemned by 99% of the population.

The hypocrisy here is, You're ok to try and tarnish all Irish men with one incident and then take the morale high ground when someone else does the same.

Calm down dear.

Church on Tuesday

Zorya wrote: »

That's truly horrible.



I absolutely do not think that men in general cannot be trusted - I like men a lot - but if a woman has ever been assaulted, as many have, there is an undoubted subtle undercurrent that occurs in the back of the mind, completely unbidden, when one steps into a taxi with an unknown man, or meets one alone on a dark road or street, or when a man drives a car past you a bit slow on an isolated country road, or if you live in a very isolated place and open the door to an unknown man etc etc.
It is not at all that one presumes that all men or even many men, or even any significant portion at all of men are rapists - but the thought bubbles under the surface - ''Is this okay for me? Am I safe?''

It's actually a horrible though undeniable factor of being a woman - and I like being a woman. James Stephens, the writer of old, put it something like this, I vaguely recall - Women and sheep need eyes in the back of their heads.



I imagine it is similar for a guy who has been sexually assaulted.

Of course stories and rumours of any kind will lead one to be prejudiced in perhaps irrational ways towards ones safety.

I take your point.

Yet in most cases of sexual assault against women the perpetrator is already well known to the woman sadly. (74% according to the SAVI report)

kildare lad

E.g. If you buy a fake pair of Nike runners, you're directly funding more of the same sweatshop exploitation/slavery, and directly fund the gang paymasters that import, and take their cut from each and every sale.[/QUOTE]

The real nike were well known for doing the exact same thing too

Yamanoto

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Out on his arse for pills and weed? You're having a laugh right?

Having your temporary visa revoked by a host country for a conviction of drug dealing is an absolutely reasonable response.

Odd that such a point even needs making.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Woodsie1 wrote: »

That's a convenient anecdote.

It’s true. I’ve no reason to lie. I’ve only ever experienced one sleazy driver and he was Irish. I was sitting in front, my friends in the back and the driver was handsy. I mean, do you think this is a fantastical tale? It’s hardly far-fetched. I can also give details about the best taxi driver I had but it’s a longer story which would require some things that might identify me. But if you want more details, I can try.

If you don’t believe me, I don’t know what to tell you. There’s probably nothing I could say that would convince you. It’s an interesting stance to have though. Kinda kneejerk - “oh, well that’s obviously made up”. Really?

Oh and I think the taxi driver in the OP should be deported. So, yeah, why would I make up a story? I was pointing out that native taxi drivers might be no better but I’m not going to avoid them. Or drivers of any nationality. My opinion on this is molded by my experiences.

4068ac1elhodqr

kildare lad wrote: »

The real nike were well known for doing the exact same thing too

Perhaps in some instances, but not all. They also tried to address any wrongdoing after their share price took a hit. It's now more likely they operate under better conditions and within the realm of the law where possible. That's a fair expectation in 2019.

The question is, by using an illegal taxi, would you be directly (even if somewhat unaware) be supporting more the same for the future, by funding this exposed criminal industry.

Sleeper12

Yamanoto wrote:

Having your temporary visa revoked by a host country for a conviction of drug dealing is an absolutely reasonable response.

Weed isn't a class A drug. The link provided doesn't work so I can't read the full story.

Spook_ie

usernamegoes wrote: »

I was being sarcastic. Taxi lobby would have us believe they're all saints and Uber drivers would kill you and your family if they got the chance.

If you think the Gardai and NTA are having problems then how do you think Uber will be doing anything better?

StinkyMunkey

I don't know what pisses me off more, the fact this evil Cnut is even allowed to stay in the country let alone still work as a taxi driver or the fact that some idiots are more outraged because someone happened to mention he was an immigrant.

Forget get he is a sex offender, how dare you mention he is an immigrant - ffs

Irish or immigrant, you fcuking scum if your guilty like this guy is.

Irish he is home grown scum, our problem.

Immigrant send the ****er home and let his country of origin pay his prison bills.

Your convicted of a serious crime and your an immigrant, back to where you came from. Vast majority of immigrants are law abiding people like the vast majority of Irish people.

Phil.x

Rumour has it, its vardakar's cousin.

TCM

frag420 wrote:

Did the article mention he was a non national or was that you throwing that in for the fun of it?

Yes, the article did mention that he was that he was a non national.

TCM

realdanbreen wrote:

It doesn't say anywhere in that report that he is a non national, why are you making this up?

It did say he was a non national.

Dante7

I have asked this question before, and I have yet to receive an adequate answer. How are people from outside the EU getting here and being granted citizenship if they are not refugees? We need skilled immigrants, not sexually abusive taxi drivers.

malinheader

Dante7 wrote: »

I have asked this question before, and I have yet to receive an adequate answer. How are people from outside the EU getting here and being granted citizenship if they are not refugees? We need skilled immigrants, not sexually abusive taxi drivers.

Simple we have no reasonable system in place in policing this and worse still no one in government gives a ****e. Better to stay quiet than maybe seen to be racist.

Yamanoto

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Weed isn't a class A drug.

And?

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The link provided doesn't work so I can't read the full story.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/conviction-of-brazilian-rickshaw-driver-for-drug-dealing-prompts-warning-by-judge-796720.html

Hahahahahahahahaha :pac::pac:

"He rented the rickshaw from a garage he found out about through a friend.

Despite demands from the judge for more information about who owned the rickshaws, Borges claimed he did not know any names or have any more details about the garage."


Yeah I believe him :rolleyes:

kildare lad

Politicians are spineless f@@ks. They're too afraid of been called a racist. Sure look what happened the fella who was running for president , when he said it was ridiculos that travellers refused to move into them houses because it had no stables built for their horses . And that they'd want to start pulling their weight and not claiming all the lives , well he got attacked left , right and centre , by politicians, media etc. the only people that didn't attack him were people with common sense. He's poll numbers went up to 20 percent after making them comments. Ireland could do with a few no nonsense politicians instead of them wasters we have in the Dail on the minute

irishproduce

Remember to click an ad on the publishers page with the story. A lot of this stuff gets buried or bare lip service.
Publishers will publish such stories when there is reward for it.

Edgware

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

It’s true. I’ve no reason to lie. I’ve only ever experienced one sleazy driver and he was Irish. I was sitting in front, my friends in the back and the driver was handsy. I mean, do you think this is a fantastical tale? It’s hardly far-fetched. I can also give details about the best taxi driver I had but it’s a longer story which would require some things that might identify me. But if you want more details, I can try.

If you don’t believe me, I don’t know what to tell you. There’s probably nothing I could say that would convince you. It’s an interesting stance to have though. Kinda kneejerk - “oh, well that’s obviously made up”. Really?

Oh and I think the taxi driver in the OP should be deported. So, yeah, why would I make up a story? I was pointing out that native taxi drivers might be no better but I’m not going to avoid them. Or drivers of any nationality. My opinion on this is molded by my experiences.

We have plenty of our own scum. Why should we hold on to some other countries scum who have shown us what they are capable of?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Edgware wrote: »

We have plenty of our own scum. Why should we hold on to some other countries scum who have shown us what they are capable of?

My first post in the thread was in response to somebody saying that their female friends won’t take a taxi with a non-Irish driver. I was relating my experience.

Sleeper12

Dante7 wrote:

I have asked this question before, and I have yet to receive an adequate answer. How are people from outside the EU getting here and being granted citizenship if they are not refugees? We need skilled immigrants, not sexually abusive taxi drivers.

What do you know about this taxi driver? Is he a citizen? Was he a refugee? Is it possible that he's a skilled immigrant but working as a taxi driver? Maybe he holds two jobs.

Lots of posters making lots of assumptions based on very little information in the two newspaper articles.