Peter Casey to contest the European elections

Jackman25

BBFAN wrote: »

And that just goes to show how some people vote from the most idiotic viewpoint.

"I'm going to vote for someone cause some internet head I hate says not to".

****ing gas. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Shows up the intelligence viewpoint of Casey voters though. Makes me happy.

Don't think you should be slagging off anyones intelligence. You fairly got your ass handed to ya at the end of "Anyone enjoy being single thread".

Plumbthedepths

FrancieBrady wrote:

You are the poster who is getting huffy because somebody alluded to Casey seeming to be senile. Which is a fair point tbh. Irreverent or not.

Not huffy at all dude, just find it pathetic to suggest someone is senile because you disagree with their ideas.

pgj2015

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I am sure Peter is planning to say something controversial to get the masses riled up. I'll put a bet on now that it will relate to immigration.

He might take credit for burning down the asylum centre in donegal:pac:

Phoebas

Idbatterim wrote: »

what a waste him running for europe! If he started new party, he could conceivably get from 15-20% of the vote in my opinion. If you had a real third force in Irish politics, it would be a total game changer!

He's never going to start a new party.
He knows how to push the buttons and to get a good chunk of people excited for a little while, but he isn't going to be a serious politician with actual ideas, nevermind leading a new party with a whole set of policies.

It's sad that so many people have lost so much faith in politics that they're reduced to looking at Casey as a leader.

Roger Hassenforder

BBFAN wrote: »

Shows up the intelligence viewpoint of Casey voters though. Makes me happy.

In fairness BB, people excercise their vote different ways, for different reasons. Some informed, some less so.

But such dismissive disregard for alternative views doesnt serve our democracy well, smacks of polarizing views into those i agree with, ergo well informed and intelligent , and those i disagree with, ergo less intelligent.

Hes a gobshíte, yet i voted for him. I dont regard my self as low intelligence. What is wrong with society that he garners such support.

Phoebas

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Hes a gobshíte, yet i voted for him. I dont regard my self as low intelligence. What is wrong with society that he garners such support.

You think he's a gob****e.
You think his support is driven by a 'wrong' in society.

But you voted for him. :confused;

ahnowbrowncow

Phoebas wrote: »

Both Casey and Ming are looking to be elected in a constituency that will cover all of Ireland's EU land border after Brexit.

We need more serious politicians the likes of Mairead McGuinness, not populists like Casey or Ming.

Phoebas wrote: »

It's sad that so many people have lost so much faith in politics that they're reduced to looking at Casey as a leader.

It's not difficult to lose faith in politics when the biggest political party are putting candidates like the 2014 Rose of Tralee forward.

I suppose you'd class her as a 'serious politician'.

Apparently she's passionate about "mental health, diversity, inclusion, women’s rights and working to improve young people’s lives".

You'd be hard pressed to find someone running in this election with a more populist outlook.

Once again you've shown yourself to be a hypocrite when it comes to Fine Gael.

Roger Hassenforder

Phoebas wrote: »

You think he's a gob****e.
You think his support is driven by a 'wrong' in society.

But you voted for him. :confused;

More of it.

"So what you're saying is"...type guff.
Is it a "wrong" or is it a wrong.
People vote for many reasons. Failing to understand perceived and real wrongs is polarizing

I'll say one thing for Peter Casey; a few weeks after the presidential election, I held the door open for him* at a petrol station and he smiled politely and said thank you. Not that this should be a noteworthy achievement, but some people are such rude ****s that even that much is beyond them!

*At least I think it was him. If not him, then it was his doppelganger.

pjohnson

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

In fairness BB, people excercise their vote different ways, for different reasons. Some informed, some less so.

But such dismissive disregard for alternative views doesnt serve our democracy well, smacks of polarizing views into those i agree with, ergo well informed and intelligent , and those i disagree with, ergo less intelligent.

Hes a gobshíte, yet i voted for him. I dont regard my self as low intelligence. What is wrong with society that he garners such support.

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Phoebas

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

It's not difficult to lose faith in politics when the biggest political party are putting candidates like the 2014 Rose of Tralee forward.

I suppose you'd class her as a 'serious politician'.

Apparently she's passionate about "mental health, diversity, inclusion, women’s rights and working to improve young people’s lives".

You'd be hard pressed to find someone running in this election with a more populist outlook.

Once again you've shown yourself to be a hypocrite when it comes to Fine Gael.

You realise you've just invented my support for whoever that politician is. I've never heard of her or mentioned her let alone expressed any support for her.

Phoebas

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

More of it.

"So what you're saying is"...type guff.
Is it a "wrong" or is it a wrong.
People vote for many reasons. Failing to understand perceived and real wrongs is polarizing

Tell me about it.
You cast your ballot for someone you think is a 'gobshíte'

Necro

Phoebas wrote:

You realise you've just invented my support for whoever that politician is. I've never heard of her or mentioned her let alone expressed any support for her.

But isn't that the best type of support, that which is invented?

:pac:

is_that_so

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Well he is easily the best out of that lot. No contest

Hmm better than the current VP of the EU Parliament or two MEPs who already have five years experience, one of whom topped the poll last time out? By what standard is he "better"?

is_that_so

Idbatterim wrote: »

what a waste him running for europe! If he started new party, he could conceivably get from 15-20% of the vote in my opinion. If you had a real third force in Irish politics, it would be a total game changer!

You dont have to be good or polished to win over a sizeable amount of the electorate (as casey proved), many will vote for any one other than the current morons!

The fact he actually just speaks the truth on one topic, separates him from the rest of the spineless, virtue signalling rats! Also when he said the government were doing nothing for working people, absolutely correct!

If those rats started losing seats, they'd start thinking twice!

You are confusing our attitude to a Presidential or any other kind of election v a GE. The GE is the only one we really take seriously. But let's see.

Who is he going to take this imaginary 10-15% away from?
What policies would he have?
Who'd run with him?
How would such an entity be a game changer given that every single other party would hammer them and most likely have little to do with their "policies"?

New parties tend not to flourish here; the only notable exception being the PDs.

Jackman25

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

It's not difficult to lose faith in politics when the biggest political party are putting candidates like the 2014 Rose of Tralee forward.

I suppose you'd class her as a 'serious politician'.

Apparently she's passionate about "mental health, diversity, inclusion, women’s rights and working to improve young people’s lives".

You'd be hard pressed to find someone running in this election with a more populist outlook.

Once again you've shown yourself to be a hypocrite when it comes to Fine Gael.

Full house of the current right-on buzzwords anyway. What does "passionate about diversity" even mean. Won't be getting my vote.

is_that_so

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

It's not difficult to lose faith in politics when the biggest political party are putting candidates like the 2014 Rose of Tralee forward.

I suppose you'd class her as a 'serious politician'.

Apparently she's passionate about "mental health, diversity, inclusion, women’s rights and working to improve young people’s lives".

You'd be hard pressed to find someone running in this election with a more populist outlook.

Once again you've shown yourself to be a hypocrite when it comes to Fine Gael.

It's an EU election. You can be for whatever you like. Still a personality contest and what matters is how much the public takes to you.

Danzy

is_that_so wrote: »

You are confusing our attitude to a Presidential or any other kind of election v a GE. The GE is the only one we really take seriously. But let's see.

Who is he going to take this imaginary 10-15% away from?
What policies would he have?
Who'd run with him?
How would such an entity be a game changer given that every single other party would hammer them and most likely have little to do with their "policies"?

New parties tend not to flourish here; the only notable exception being the PDs.

And the PDs only flourished for a short time by being a voting crutch for the most corrupt leaders we've ever seen.

Their legacy was a crashed economy.

is_that_so

Danzy wrote: »

And the PDs only flourished for a short time by being a voting crutch for the most corrupt leaders we've ever seen.

Their legacy was a crashed economy.

20 years is a long time in terms of small defunct Irish parties and they were in power in four governments.

Well good morning everyone. I see we all got along swimmingly last night

dxhound2005

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Well good morning everyone. I see we all got along swimmingly last night

If you have anything of substance to offer be sure to post it. Otherwise, I'll just ignore you.

eagle eye

Any polls yet for this? I expect Casey to be leading.

Phoebas

eagle eye wrote: »

Any polls yet for this? I expect Casey to be leading.

You expect Casey to be polling ahead of Mairead McGuinness?

BarryD2

mgn wrote: »

Casey hopes to take Ming the Merciless seat in europe.

Ming who? He's been practically invisible as well as yer man down in Cork for the last several years. You don't hear that much of the rest but they do crop up from time to time.

Not sure why Peter Casey would want to be elected to the EP, unless it's a platform to launch a new party here and get into the Dáil.

Hear Mick Wallace is also thinking that way, maybe he sees the writing on the wall as regards representing Wexford.

BarryD2

Phoebas wrote: »

Tell me about it.
You cast your ballot for someone you think is a 'gobshíte'

Well Ming headed the poll last time I believe, so plenty of precedence!

dxhound2005

dxhound2005 wrote: »

If you have anything of substance to offer be sure to post it. Otherwise, I'll just ignore you.

Did you not get any this morning?

Lighten up!

BarryD2

Necro wrote: »

Casey does strike me as a very populist type of candidate. I can see why Sinn Fein supporters might have cause for concern.

Dunno if I'd vote for him though. I don't like the talk about leaving the single currency at all. As I said earlier in the thread, there's a smack of JRM off it.

A similarity with Rees Mogg?? That's very hard to see from an Irish perspective - poles apart in terms of background, personality and likeability.

Casey whether you like it or not, represents a fair swathe of 'middle Ireland'. Of course there's a difference between what people think and what can be done, but he did well enough in the PE against virtually the entire weight of the Irish media and other parties.

If Rees Mogg were to stand in some equivalent UK election, the ordinary Brit would look askance at him.

Phoebas

Very early to make predictions but I'd say it'll be:
1. Mairead McGuinness
2. Matt Carthy
3. Ming.
4. One of the FF candidates.

dxhound2005

Carthy

FrancieBrady

What do we make of the candidates intention to lobby for us leaving the Eurozone?
Returning to using the punt and if we crash and burn then at least we won't be buying Mercs and BMW's from the Germans...I think was his reasoning.

Is that just the NW region, pheobas?

Edit: and midlands

mgn

BarryD2 wrote: »

Ming who? He's been practically invisible as well as yer man down in Cork for the last several years. You don't hear that much of the rest but they do crop up from time to time.

Not sure why Peter Casey would want to be elected to the EP, unless it's a platform to launch a new party here and get into the D.

Hear Mick Wallace is also thinking that way, maybe he sees the writing on the wall as regards representing Wexford.

You can guarantee you will see plenty of him for the next couple of weeks.
I hope someone in media asks him about ''the politicians get paid to much'' line he had before he was elected a TD.Only taking half his wages and the other half going to local causes.He takes his full salary now,So much for man of the people.

FrancieBrady

mgn wrote: »

You can guarantee you will see plenty of him for the next couple of weeks.
I hope someone in media asks him about ''the politicians get paid to much'' line he had before he was elected a TD.Only taking half his wages and the other half going to local causes.He takes his full salary now,So much for man of the people.

Casey is intending to use his EU wage to pay his son's 78,000e school fees.

mgn

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Casey is intending to use his EU wage to pay his son's 78,000e school fees.

I have no problem with that at least he is straight about it.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Casey is intending to use his EU wage to pay his son's 78,000e school fees.

Should a person not use their wage on their family?

FrancieBrady

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Should a person not use their wage on their family?

No problem with it at all. Wouldn't I love to be able to spend most of my wage on just one of my children.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

No problem with it at all. Wouldn't I love to be able to spend most of my wage on just one of my children.

That’s the way of the world though. Casey didn’t have a privaledge upbringing, did he? Majority of parents say they would like their children to have the best opportunities in life and if I had found myself in financially able, I would have invested more in their education.

I’d put that as a positive rather than a negative trait for Casey.

A good quality private education has been the makings of many of our current TDs.

is_that_so

Phoebas wrote: »

Very early to make predictions but I'd say it'll be:
1. Mairead McGuinness
2. Matt Carthy
3. Ming.
4. One of the FF candidates.

First three for sure, seat number 4 may be a scrap.

Phoebas

is_that_so wrote: »

First three for sure, seat number 4 may be a scrap.

FF were unlucky the last time, they had two reasonably high profile candidates who both polled well but probably split their vote.

Casey and Ming come from very different places, but they are both what might be described as anti-establishment / stick it to the man type candidates and would both be euroskeptic, so they might be fishing in the same pond.

is_that_so

Phoebas wrote: »

FF were unlucky the last time, they had two reasonably high profile candidates who both polled well but probably split their vote.

Casey and Ming come from very different places, but they are both what might be described as anti-establishment / stick it to the man type candidates and would both be euroskeptic, so they might be fishing in the same pond.

I don't think they are. Ming topped the poll so he has a base to defend. Casey is in because Harkin is out. I know little about the FF candidates but they'd fancy that fourth seat. His ability to win transfers has not been tested yet nor has his ability to compete with party machines campaigning properly.

Mad_maxx

Phoebas wrote: »

FF were unlucky the last time, they had two reasonably high profile candidates who both polled well but probably split their vote.

Casey and Ming come from very different places, but they are both what might be described as anti-establishment / stick it to the man type candidates and would both be euroskeptic, so they might be fishing in the same pond.

Bar being in favour of cutting turf, ming sits comfortably with the views of any D4 liberal

The man is a tedious Jack in the box

4068ac1elhodqr

Can't see any bet market options for Casey's performance in the EUE,
perhaps he would be too difficult to price/assess performance wise.
The only slightly relative market is for FG 1.5 most seats.

However, one slightly related renegade type bet I have glued into the monthly accas,
is for uks new 'the Brexit party' @2.25. Subjective views on them are irrelevant,
simply calculate that they perform well given the circumstances.

Assesment is very close to certainty (80% sure thing) of most seats, with 225%ROI.

Edgware

Phoebas wrote: »

Very early to make predictions but I'd say it'll be:
1. Mairead McGuinness
2. Matt Carthy
3. Ming.
4. One of the FF candidates.

Only problem with that list is if you vote Carthy you will get him for a few months because he will run in Cavan Monaghan in the General Election and replace the current SF candidate (who could bore for Ireland).
If Britain has left the EU at that stage it is likely that SF will have Mini Skirt Martina listed as Carthy's replacement. If Britain hasnt left SF will have some other loolah lined up for the job

I was just about to mention the same.

Matt is just passing time til the GE and he gets Caoimhín Ó Caoláins seat. His many signs for his many public meetings have been a notable feature round home for the last few years.

Actually him and Brendan Smith will pass each other going in different directions:pac:

is_that_so

Edgware wrote: »

Only problem with that list is if you vote Carthy you will get him for a few months because he will run in Cavan Monaghan in the General Election and replace the current SF candidate (who could bore for Ireland).
If Britain has left the EU at that stage it is likely that SF will have Mini Skirt Martina listed as Carthy's replacement. If Britain hasnt left SF will have some other loolah lined up for the job

Next year at the earliest, not in a few months but he's pretty much a given here.

eagle eye

mgn wrote:

You can guarantee you will see plenty of him for the next couple of weeks. I hope someone in media asks him about ''the politicians get paid to much'' line he had before he was elected a TD.Only taking half his wages and the other half going to local causes.He takes his full salary now,So much for man of the people.

Let me get this right, he gave away half his wages while a TD and now he keeps his full wage as a MEP and that's a reason to castigate him?
What about all the TD's and MEP's who always kept their full wage?

dxhound2005

eagle eye wrote: »

Let me get this right, he gave away half his wages while a TD and now he keeps his full wage as a MEP and that's a reason to castigate him?
What about all the TD's and MEP's who always kept their full wage?

They are all entitled to do what they want with their wages. If some of them give half of their wages away, that doesn't save the taxpayers any money.

Plumbthedepths

So noonne rates Maria Walshe the former winner of the lovely girl contest as having a chance, yet she has all the lastest buzzwords and down with the kids policies.

dxhound2005

Walsh