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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Ipso wrote: »
    Just today’s world? What about the tribes slaughtered by gods chosen people, the crusades, thirty years war etc
    Not exactly fun times.

    The tribes that existed when the Jews took over that area after coming out of Egypt were ungodly. They sacrificed their young, worshipped false Gods and had to be wiped out for a new nation to be created that kept God's commandments, but ultimately a new covenant for all mankind was required.


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Or perhaps it's all made up like hundreds of other beliefs and religions because human beings haven't had the means to explain stuff for much of our existence

    Perhaps it's supposed to be taken metaphorically as a blueprint for living (in a time when there weren't governments), instead of being taken literally..

    It is still relevant today as it was 2,000 years ago. Jesus is still at work in many people's lives around the world. He has rescued the lost and given meaning and purpose to many. Jesus has shown some people what hell and heaven are really like and it has resulted in their lives been changed forever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,033 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    It is still relevant today as it was 2,000 years ago. Jesus is still at work in many people's lives around the world. He has rescued the lost and given meaning and purpose to many. Jesus has shown some people what hell and heaven are really like and it has resulted in their lives been changed forever.

    Skipped Auschwitz and Rwanda, but suppose there's a moral lesson in there somewhere, or some cheap vagueness to explain it away..


  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Skipped Auschwitz and Rwanda, but suppose there's a moral lesson in there somewhere, or some cheap vagueness to explain it away..

    Both committed by man's sinful nature.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,033 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Both committed by man's sinful nature.

    Always man's fault when it's convenient, but divine when it isn't. Odd that


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  • Registered Users Posts: 592 ✭✭✭one world order


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Always man's fault when it's convenient, but divine when it isn't. Odd that

    We have free will to accept God or reject him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    We have free will to accept God or reject him.

    Free will, coupled with geographic determinism

    :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,580 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    We have free will to accept God or reject him.

    Even people who have never heard of him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    pearcider wrote: »
    There is a very specific claim at stake here. That is the mark of the beast that nobody on the Earth may buy and sell without this mark. There is absolutely no way this could be possible up until quite recently as we had no SWIFT and no smart phones and no satellites. Cut it any way you wish but this is a deeply disturbing fact to a believer such as myself.

    SWIFT has been on the go since 1973, satellites since 1957. Where does the mark of the beast come into it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    When the religion loopers and the conspiraloons get together, it's really quite something.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,033 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    When the religion loopers and the conspiraloons get together, it's really quite something.

    Interesting how they are so similar, individuals with fringe beliefs they can't support, desperately seeking any form of validation


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Interesting how they are so similar, individuals with fringe beliefs they can't support, desperately seeking any form of validation

    You’re the only desperate poster in here. Desperately dull I mean.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    McGaggs wrote: »
    SWIFT has been on the go since 1973, satellites since 1957. Where does the mark of the beast come into it?

    Another dullard. That is recent history when compared with two thousand years. Are you really that obtuse or were you just desperate to post anything?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    When the religion loopers and the conspiraloons get together, it's really quite something.

    Thanks for that contribution you simpleton.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    And now, rather than defend the conspiracy, we've entered the phase where the conspiracy theorist just insults people who disagrees with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    King Mob wrote: »
    And now, rather than defend the conspiracy, we've entered the phase where the conspiracy theorist just insults people who disagrees with them.

    If you can’t take it don’t dish it out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    pearcider wrote: »
    If you can’t take it don’t dish it out.
    No one is insulting you. We're just asking you difficult questions about about your theory that you can't address.

    This is understandable frustrating for you. However, rather than lash out, maybe you should consider why you doing so and why you can't address the points made?

    Maybe you're wrong?
    Is that possible?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭pearcider


    King Mob wrote: »
    No one is insulting you. We're just asking you difficult questions about about your theory that you can't address.

    This is understandable frustrating for you. However, rather than lash out, maybe you should consider why you doing so and why you can't address the points made?

    Maybe you're wrong?
    Is that possible?

    How is calling someone a religious looper not an insult?


  • Registered Users Posts: 990 ✭✭✭SuperGrover


    Remember when barcodes were the mark of the beast?

    Maybe, just maybe, people writing stuff millennia in the past couldn't actually see into the future?

    No?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Mod: pearcider taking a little holiday from here.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    pearcider wrote: »
    Another dullard. That is recent history when compared with two thousand years. Are you really that obtuse or were you just desperate to post anything?

    No, the main point of my post was to ask where do you see the mark of the beast in this? Your posts on this seemed to be coming from the perspective of changes in technology over a human lifespan, hence the dates I gave. And what relevance is 200 years to the Bible? It covers a much longer period than that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Remember when barcodes were the mark of the beast?
    Unless you're calling 750gms of retail Corn Flakes a beasty-evil...
    ...nope.


    But do try to think of the last time folks got serial numbers lashed onto their arms, circa mid-century.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Unless you're calling 750gms of retail Corn Flakes a beasty-evil...
    ...nope.


    But do try to think of the last time folks got serial numbers lashed onto their arms, circa mid-century.

    Again, people made the exact same claims you do now only about barcodes.

    They were wrong then.
    It was a ridiculous theory fueled by paranoid fringe religious beliefs.

    You've not shown that your claims are any different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again, 'people' made the exact same claims you do now only about barcodes.
    Lol, 'people', so mysterious non cited people, made some claims, some time ago, apparently.


    Has there even been a proposed program (ever) to lash barcodes onto people? Nope.


    Fact is, QDT now have proof of concept after $millions of Gate's funding at the best minds over at Gate's MIT team, with the purpose, intent and patent to be an intricrate part of a mass vaccine program.



    These are the best case solution, proposed to the global issue of vaccine 'immunity certificates'.


    Unless they find a better solution (don't say mobile bluetooth, cas that would be funny, funny), as it stands this is the most likely solution for the 7bn vaccines <12/18mths.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol, 'people', so mysterious non cited people, made some claims, some time ago, apparently.
    Yes they did.
    Are you denying that happened?

    And yes, these people also had spurious conspiracy theories to back up their claims about barcodes. Yours are exactly the same.

    You also forget that while what you point to are plans and pilot programs, barcodes became used worldwide and they are used in almost all small purchases.

    I don't think you can buy or sell anything without scanning a barcode at some point.

    The barcode is a better fit for the mark of the beast anyhow as it actually fits the description in the bible, while yours doesn't at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,580 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Lol, 'people', so mysterious non cited people, made some claims, some time ago, apparently.


    Has there even been a proposed program (ever) to lash barcodes onto people? Nope.


    Fact is, QDT now have proof of concept after $millions of Gate's funding at the best minds over at Gate's MIT team, with the purpose, intent and patent to be an intricrate part of a mass vaccine program.



    These are the best case solution, proposed to the global issue of vaccine 'immunity certificates'.


    Unless they find a better solution (don't say mobile bluetooth, cas that would be funny, funny), as it stands this is the most likely solution for the 7bn vaccines <12/18mths.

    Here you go

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wired.com/2012/12/upc-mark-of-the-beast/amp


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,033 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Lol, 'people', so mysterious non cited people, made some claims, some time ago, apparently.

    Barcodes
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65924490

    ID
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055382334

    RFID
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=57780439

    Cashless
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055225833

    Microchips
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055819254

    Same hysteria, same silly arguments, just repackaged every time new tech comes out. Note all the "mark of the beast" references.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Here you go
    So no actual program, no one actually getting these retail codes as embodiments, just one journalists commentary, cool stuff.



    If anything it does show the 666 signature common through technologies, control systems, processors, DRAM base frequencies, other systems of data capture, storing, and so on.


    More recently the 666 signature springs up in MSPatent names and the US TRACE Act, and the cheerful Lucifer-esq QDT enzymne. Think www in hebrew or some ancient lingo is linked 666. Still all these are just novelty asides, and just subtle signatures in the greater scheme of things.


    The important thing is 666 is a man-made or 'synthetic' number usually for systems of 'control', information processing, and order. It has no real place in nature.



    Natures own (golden) number equivalent would be 1 : 61803399 (or 1.618), as seen in many creations from tiny sea shells, to distant interstellar galaxies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Same hysteria, same silly arguments, just repackaged every time new tech comes out. Note all the "mark of the beast" references.


    Struth you must be bored digging about the boards, have you not any other hobbies?


    Think there was a new CT today on some other topic, how come you're not all over it? Is the pager broken?


    Anyway sunshine and fresh air beckons now, sure give it try Dohnny Joe, you might even like it!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So no actual program, no one actually getting these retail codes as embodiments, just one journalists commentary, cool stuff.

    But there was a program. barcodes are used all over the world to buy and sell things to the point that you can't buy anything without a barcode these days.

    This fits the description in the bible while your mark of the beast doesn't.

    If anything it does show the 666 signature common through technologies, control systems, processors, DRAM base frequencies, other systems of data capture, storing, and so on.


    More recently the 666 signature springs up in MSPatent names and the US TRACE Act, and the cheerful Lucifer-esq QDT enzymne. Think www in hebrew or some ancient lingo is linked 666. Still all these are just novelty asides, and just subtle signatures in the greater scheme of things.


    The important thing is 666 is a man-made or 'synthetic' number usually for systems of 'control', information processing, and order. It has no real place in nature.



    Natures own (golden) number equivalent would be 1 : 61803399 (or 1.618), as seen in many creations from tiny sea shells, to distant interstellar galaxies.

    This is all meaningless waffle.


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