Werewolf: HBO's Deadwood

Vernon WW

What was the point in that Holly? Derry was NRV.

Eva WW

Barbara WW wrote: »

We need Katie and Gerti to confirm they are available, otherwise it’s into Des and Mary.

I think Phil said he was out

When do we make the call to plug Des and Mary in?

Des and Mary, can ye confirm ye are ok to standby?

Desmond WW

What was Steve’s plan? If I’m bad remember I could of discussed this plan with my mates and whatever other strategies are being added to my plan could of been a ruse.

There is one baddy who peeks good once so they can be a bit bolder. I say this because I’m happy to choose the 5 and tell the seer to peak me but if I was this baddy I would have that fallback. Remember the baddies can really only win it once and affect nothing else until Ellsworth is dead. So even if I was bad all I can do is win it once for baddies until then. If I’m good I can at least try to lead us in the right direction.

I would pick me for first goal rush (cause I know I’m good) and if I win would announce the result on thread so we know exactly how the prize is given. This means a wolf would have to announce it quickly on thread before concocting a plan. So let’s say, for example , we have all 1/5 announce on thread that they have submitted numbers by 12.45 and prize is given at 12.50, i announce it on thread and we know the prize is given out pretty quickly. Otherwise a wolf could wok prize, have a chat with their mates and come up with a plan...

Frank WW

Holly WW wrote: »

1. Katie
2. Abigail
3. Gertrude
4. Phil
5. Steve
6. Eva
7. Conor
8. Mary
9. Desmond
DEAD Derry
10.Tegan
11. Barbara
12. Vernon
13. Brendan
14. Holly
15. Ewan
16. Orla
17. Wendy
18. Angus

Copied the list in order of posts. Who we missing and how do we compensate for people not available? Steve suggestion has merit just concious of those who said they aren't available

Frank here. Think I'm the only one missing from that list.

Frank WW

I'm around to step in if needed for this 1-5 business, otherwise I'll stay away from those numbers.

Desmond WW

Conor WW wrote: »

goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

Barbara WW wrote: »

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

Holly WW wrote: »

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

Vernon WW wrote: »

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

Desmond WW wrote: »

Wendy’s availability for gold rush Monday

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - No
And
16.30 - 17.29 - No

Desmond WW wrote: »

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

Phil WW wrote: »

I'm afraid I've already got commitments tomorrow (hence why I mentioned the possibility tomorrow), as the picture show is coming through town and I've made prior arrangements with a belle.

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - No
And
16.30 - 17.29 - No




I'd imagine wolves would love to get their names into the equation to be honest. They'll want to win, and would love to get themselves an unopposed lower number, right?

Angus WW wrote: »

Oops looks like I’m a bit late to the party....sorry everyone.

I’m really tired and don’t know if it’s that, or I’m just stupid, but I’m not understanding the gold rush strategies at all! I will be around tomorrow though and would love if someone would just assign me a number

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

Katie WW wrote: »

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - No (could if required; will be in a meeting but could phone post)
And/or
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

Steve WW wrote: »

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - No
And
16.30 - 17.29 - No

I’m working today but will be available for both the next two days. I might make the 4.30 one but can’t guarantee so you guys go ahead with whoever is available today and if I do make it on I’ll choose a higher number.

Tegan WW wrote: »

Morning all. Im working today but I'll be around for first one.


#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And/or
16.30 - 17.29 - No

Mary WW wrote: »

Morning all

Should be around for the comps

#goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes


Not sure I’m getting how we’re doing it though. Is it players give a number to other players to use?

Derry WW wrote: »

I'm working today but available to operate the goldrush at the same time from the looks of things.

Goldrush
12.30 - 1.29 - Yes
And
16.30 - 17.29 - Yes

I think these are all the goldrush people? Anybody missed?

Desmond WW

Phil WW wrote: »

Oh actually, yeah, I get the math now.

If they all lump on 1-5, then anyone else winning would be a villager. I was thinking we'd want to control who the sixth is, but in that scenario, anyone 6 onwards would be good.

That’s why I chose 5. Couldn’t work out why there was a push for 6.

Eva WW

#1 - katie - not confirmed
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

backups

mary - not confirmed
des - not confirmed
Tegan - not confirmed
Babs - not confirmed

Is that right?

If so, i want to slot in some backups for Katie and Gertie. Its better we have #1-5 covered off than leave them open.

Brendan WW

Briefly back.

Orla WW wrote: »

Why was it a strange choice Brendan?

Please tell me why you believe its strange?

Just thought there might be more obvious choices tbh. Des with his plans, shut down another high poster.

Desmond WW wrote: »

What was Steve’s plan? If I’m bad remember I could of discussed this plan with my mates and whatever other strategies are being added to my plan could of been a ruse.

There is one baddy who peeks good once so they can be a bit bolder. I say this because I’m happy to choose the 5 and tell the seer to peak me but if I was this baddy I would have that fallback. Remember the baddies can really only win it once and affect nothing else until Ellsworth is dead. So even if I was bad all I can do is win it once for baddies until then. If I’m good I can at least try to lead us in the right direction.

I would pick me for first goal rush (cause I know I’m good) and if I win would announce the result on thread so we know exactly how the prize is given. This means a wolf would have to announce it quickly on thread before concocting a plan. So let’s say, for example , we have all 1/5 announce on thread that they have submitted numbers by 12.45 and prize is given at 12.50, i announce it on thread and we know the prize is given out pretty quickly. Otherwise a wolf could wok prize, have a chat with their mates and come up with a plan...

Well that's not entirely true though Desmond, and I'm wondering now are you being a bit TOO obvious if I'm honest.

You could be George trying to goad the seer into peeking you. From my reading of the OP that would work out as a 1 for 1 trade but would take out a powerful villager.

Not sure I trust your intentions given you seem to know a lot about the OP but left out that little snippet if I'm entirely honest.

Eva WW

@Des; im in for both times.

Holly WW

Vernon WW wrote: »

What was the point in that Holly? Derry was NRV.

I know that, thought there might be a reason or an interaction that meant Derry got the chop. I dont see one

Steve WW

My plan was the first 5 posters in the thread we use for 5 people. Taking into account people who aren’t available, so the next available person on that list.

Lock down who the 5 people who will definitely be here for it, everyone has their number and has to declare if they win. If nobody does then as Phil said we have something for the seer to work with.

Do you think we will find out the winning number after?

Eva WW

Eva WW wrote: »

#1 - katie - not confirmed
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

backups

mary - not confirmed
des - not confirmed
Tegan - not confirmed
Babs - not confirmed

Is that right?

If so, i want to slot in some backups for Katie and Gertie. Its better we have #1-5 covered off than leave them open.

ok i see Katie isnt around for the first goldrush.

so....

#1 - mary - not confirmed (please confirm now)
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed (please confirm now)
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

The above people guess the number beside their name. Everyone else guess between 6 and 20.

Holly WW

Eva WW wrote: »

#1 - katie - not confirmed
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

backups

mary - not confirmed
des - not confirmed
Tegan - not confirmed
Babs - not confirmed

Is that right?

If so, i want to slot in some backups for Katie and Gertie. Its better we have #1-5 covered off than leave them open.

I'm here aswell but lower down the list, can step in if required

Desmond WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

Briefly back.



Just thought there might be more obvious choices tbh. Des with his plans, shut down another high poster.



Well that's not entirely true though Desmond, and I'm wondering now are you being a bit TOO obvious if I'm honest.

You could be George trying to goad the seer into peeking you. From my reading of the OP that would work out as a 1 for 1 trade but would take out a powerful villager.

Not sure I trust your intentions given you seem to know a lot about the OP but left out that little snippet if I'm entirely honest.

If I’m the biggest baddy why would I bother being so public about my intentions? If the seer dies I die because I’ve telegraphed it to everybody. In short the benefit of that power to Hearst is that the seer dies if the peak him and nobody knows who he is!

And you find it suspect that I read or undertake the OP? Why? Prey do tell why this is dodgy. Accusing anybody of being suspect for such a flimsy reason can stick in people’s minds in the negative.

Brendan WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

If I’m the biggest baddy why would I bother being so public about my intentions? If the seer dies I die because I’ve telegraphed it to everybody. In short the benefit of that power to Hearst is that the seer dies if the peak him and nobody knows who he is!

And you find it suspect that I read or undertake the OP? Why? Prey do tell why this is dodgy. Accusing anybody of being suspect for such a flimsy reason can stick in people’s minds in the negative.

Twisting words now and very defensive. Interesting.

Your big spiel included all this talk about one unpeekable (on first go) person but left out the possibility of George pulling a fast one to nab the seer.

You need to read the George role again btw Now I need to determine if you're leaving certain things out by mistake (not likely) or by design.

Barbara WW

I like the idea of a quick reveal

I would be happy with Des to get No.1, at the moment he’s the most likely to a villager, his strategy is town friendly from what I can make out

I thought it was strange that Phil was posting here at 11.33 but was adamant he couldn’t be here for 12.30.

I also think we should stick with the same five for the second round, the village will learn more from that. In fact you could probably stick with those five while they’re available, while prizes are still be awarded and while we feel the town is getting the benefit of the prizes

Desmond WW

Steve WW wrote: »

My plan was the first 5 posters in the thread we use for 5 people. Taking into account people who aren’t available, so the next available person on that list.

Lock down who the 5 people who will definitely be here for it, everyone has their number and has to declare if they win. If nobody does then as Phil said we have something for the seer to work with.

Do you think we will find out the winning number after?

Hmm, from my POV that could be a manipulation to make sure wolves win first goldrush. But I’m not cleared so I suppose to everybody else it’s as legit as me picking.

Incidentally to make sure it’s all above board whoever gets the prizes today need to back each other up. By that I mean at most only one wolf can win a prize so when both people win the prize they need to confirm on thread, as much as they can, about how the prize was given.

So people who PM NUMBERS confirm on thread. Then person with prize confirms time they receive it and whatever information they can about it. Then we know how long it it takes for prize to be given. Gives a wolf less time to plan with their pack!

Angus WW

Eva WW wrote: »

#1 - katie - not confirmed
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

backups

mary - not confirmed
des - not confirmed
Tegan - not confirmed
Babs - not confirmed

Is that right?

If so, i want to slot in some backups for Katie and Gertie. Its better we have #1-5 covered off than leave them open.

Happy to be a backup if needed

Mary WW

Eva WW wrote: »

#1 - katie - not confirmed
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

backups

mary - not confirmed
des - not confirmed
Tegan - not confirmed
Babs - not confirmed

Is that right?

If so, i want to slot in some backups for Katie and Gertie. Its better we have #1-5 covered off than leave them open.

I’m available if needed, just let me know the number to pick. Bit mad in rl this morning but I can check in in time to cover this if I’m needed

Mary WW

Eva WW wrote: »

ok i see Katie isnt around for the first goldrush.

so....

#1 - mary - not confirmed (please confirm now)
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed (please confirm now)
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

The above people guess the number beside their name. Everyone else guess between 6 and 20.

Grand will do

Brendan WW

Actually before I go I'll just do it for you Des:

George Hearst - The mining magnate reveres his secrecy. Should anyone lay eyes on him, they will meet very deadly consequences. However, such a public outburst would leave Hearst with nowhere to hide from Deadwood's inhabitants were it to occur.

My reading is that Hearst gets outted if a seer peeks him but they die in return.

Eva WW

Leave it til 12.30 then we slot people into the 2 open spots, i reckon.

Barbara WW

One open spot, Mary has confirmed.
Des is up after that and I’m after that.

Eva WW

#1 - mary - confirmed & available
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed (please confirm now)
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

The above people guess the number beside their name. Everyone else guess between 6 and 20.

Gertie, any time now.

Des, you slot into #3 if Gertie doesnt confirm by 12.30.

All 5 of us hold fire until 12.40?

Desmond WW

Brendan WW wrote: »

Actually before I go I'll just do it for you Des:



My reading is that Hearst gets outted if a seer peeks him but they die in return.

Didn’t notice that. Very bad oversight on my part if I am Hearst. :pac:

Still think Cy is would be a better role for what I’m doing if I was a baddy.

Eva WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

Hmm, from my POV that could be a manipulation to make sure wolves win first goldrush. But I’m not cleared so I suppose to everybody else it’s as legit as me picking.

Incidentally to make sure it’s all above board whoever gets the prizes today need to back each other up. By that I mean at most only one wolf can win a prize so when both people win the prize they need to confirm on thread, as much as they can, about how the prize was given.

So people who PM NUMBERS confirm on thread. Then person with prize confirms time they receive it and whatever information they can about it. Then we know how long it it takes for prize to be given. Gives a wolf less time to plan with their pack!

Happy to do that.

Desmond WW

And don’t forget everybody else, pick 6,7,8,9,10.

Remember the wolves could pick 1-5 ! Somebody could steal in.

Eva WW

This whole thing falls apart if there is a wolf and/or sk in the first five posters, so announcing what you won and how it was given to you is key. Also using the prize with village consensus is key too. Dont go off on one. Thats our only way to mitigate wolves / sk in the first five (which i think is probably the case).

Eva WW

Desmond WW wrote: »

And don’t forget everybody else, pick 6,7,8,9,10.

Remember the wolves could pick 1-5 ! Somebody could steal in.

It literally doesnt matter what number after 5 people pick.

Vernon WW

Sorry to mess up your numbers but why are you slotting people in rather than moving everybody up?

WerewolfGM

Reminder:

Goldrush times: Each day from 12:30:00pm-1:29:59pm and 4:30:00pm-5:29:59pm.

Eva WW

Steve said to slot people in, im slotting people in. I dont mind which we do.

Barbara WW

Eva WW wrote: »

Steve said to slot people in, im slotting people in. I dont mind which we do.

I’d stick with slotting them in, more random

Barbara WW

Not that it matters but I’ll stick in 6

Desmond WW

Just thinking about it I’m guessing the prize isn’t announced until 1.30 unless everybody has submitted a number. Technically anybody can change the prize winner (so if last person chose number 1 then number 2 wins etc).

Eva WW

If, after ive slotted her into #1, Mary wins, then it will be because the wolves moved off #1. They will have done so because Mary is a wolf or because they want to set me up (which sucks but then Mary should be a villager, and will have a prize).

Desmond WW

So maybe we should ask people to be around between 12.30-1.29 to vote and 1.30 to 1.40 to reveal?

This is all about putting pressure on wolves. Might be a bit too much of a comitement to be fair.

Eva WW

Eva WW wrote: »

#1 - mary - confirmed & available
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - gertie - not confirmed (please confirm now)
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

The above people guess the number beside their name. Everyone else guess between 6 and 20.

Gertie, any time now.

Des, you slot into #3 if Gertie doesnt confirm by 12.30.

All 5 of us hold fire until 12.40?

Calling Gertie.......

Desmond WW

Eva WW wrote: »

If, after ive slotted her into #1, Mary wins, then it will be because the wolves moved off #1. They will have done so because Mary is a wolf or because they want to set me up (which sucks but then Mary should be a villager, and will have a prize).

Wolves can manipulate every vote for whatever reason they want. This is the major problem with this plan. Only when roles are revealed later can we really learn anything from that information.

Eva WW

It, like democracy, is flawed; but its the best we have got right now.

Phil WW

I'm here for another five minutes, so if ye can't guarantee someone is picking a number, I can slot in if needed.

Eva WW

We should be fine Phil.

In fact our plan is a little more effective if you dont pick anywhere between 1 and 5.

Dessie is next in line to be nominated to pick a number.

Desmond WW

Eva WW wrote: »

It literally doesnt matter what number after 5 people pick.

Unless some villagers either haven’t understood the plan or don’t agree with it and pick their own number!

A lot of this plan is about forcing whoever gets the power to come out on thread and keeping wolves limited to what they can do with this prize.

Conor WW

It's time, I'm here

WerewolfGM

!BEATDOWN!



The Captain struck fiercely with his beatdown. Orla WW now lies beaten and bloody in the Deadwood thoroughfare.

Is there a Doc anywhere?? Doc Cochran, if you're out there, you know what you have to do...clock's ticking!


NOTE: The beatdown victim may still post until their pending death is announced.

Eva WW

Actually thats 12.30.

So, at 12.40, the five below pick these numbers. Everyone else go between 6 and 20. Whichever you should like.

#1 - mary - confirmed & available
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - Dessie - please confirm
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

Desmond WW

Eva WW wrote: »

Actually thats 12.30.

So, at 12.40, the five below pick these numbers. Everyone else go between 6 and 20. Whichever you should like.

#1 - mary - confirmed & available
#2 - abi - confirmed & available
#3 - Dessie - please confirm
#4 - eva - confirmed & available
#5 - conor - confirmed & available

I will PM now

Eva WW

Ok, nominated 5 are all confirmed. Lets do our thing.

Mary WW

I’ve pm’d number 1