2019 All Ireland Senior Football Championship *Mod note: Post #1*

Bonniedog

As Dub, I agree that Dublin should not have two games in Croke Park. Parnell would suit me as am county board pass holder. Apart from that, this format has been ratified by Congress and Donegal tabled a badly formulated motion that allowed GAA easy way to argue for retention.

It was same when counties used to complain about Dublin playing Croke Park in Leinster but whose county delegates religiously voted for it.

Problem is not of Dublin's making.

Hammer Archer

Did Dublin vote against it though?
And again with the Leinster Council thing. Counties were threatened with cuts in funding if they voted to take Dublin out of Croke Park.

Coillte_Bhoy

LuasSimon wrote: »

I know they aren’t there yet but they are possible pairings .. i misread the neutral venue piece .

Not this **** again, the regulations say nothing about a neutral venue, absolutely nothing. There is a round of games in Croke Park, and thats it. :mad:

Bonniedog

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Did Dublin vote against it though?
And again with the Leinster Council thing. Counties were threatened with cuts in funding if they voted to take Dublin out of Croke Park.

No, they didn't although that was not the unanimous view of clubs.

There was also a belief on some part that if CP was ruled out as home venue, then there would be objections to PP on H&S grounds, or capacity given likely demand.

Wouldn't be much of a comm - ay - tee person myself so don't spend too much time on such matters but others do. CBs are obsessed with money, and whatever they might say at home, a lot of them are happy to see Dublin bringing in big gates at CP.


As for Leinster council, it was not a threat to withhold funding, it was the knowledge that taking Dublin out of CP when crowds were capacity for every game, would hugely diminish Leinster finances.

Maybe a motion allowing Dublin name CP as home ground, but not allowing a "Croke Park game", which I agree is a farce.

Fann Linn

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Did Dublin vote against it though?
And again with the Leinster Council thing. Counties were threatened with cuts in funding if they voted to take Dublin out of Croke Park.

Only natural that funding would be cut/reduced if games are played at smaller venues.
Btw, as one who travels to Clones, Tralee, Omagh etc, I wouldn't mind if Dublin played at a 'neutral venue'.

Coillte_Bhoy

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Did Dublin vote against it though?
And again with the Leinster Council thing. Counties were threatened with cuts in funding if they voted to take Dublin out of Croke Park.

Being a bit over dramatic arent we? Isnt it obvious that revenue would be down if the Dubs were out of CP?

manofwisdom

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Did Dublin vote against it though?
And again with the Leinster Council thing. Counties were threatened with cuts in funding if they voted to take Dublin out of Croke Park.

If that's true then the politics in GAA is rotten to the core. At the most Dublin like the rest of the teams should get no more than one game in Croke Park in the super 8s.

Fann Linn

manofwisdom wrote: »

If that's true then the politics in GAA is rotten to the core. At the most Dublin like the rest of the teams should get no more than one game in Croke Park in the super 8s.

Of course its true. Jim Gavin sent Dermot Connolly, Cooper and Philly McMahon around to threaten the other county secretaries.

Concannon7

spurscormac wrote: »

Well that makes it even funnier.
The football and small ball folks really dislike each other in Galway :pac:.

Do we?

Weepsie

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Being a bit over dramatic arent we? Isnt it obvious that revenue would be down if the Dubs were out of CP?

They night not sell out croke park for some of the games. They could probably pack out PuC, Semple or Gaelic Grounds though and I'd say Dublin fans wouldn't mind too much travelling down to some of them, Cork in particular

charlie14

Bonniedog wrote: »

As Dub, I agree that Dublin should not have two games in Croke Park. Parnell would suit me as am county board pass holder. Apart from that, this format has been ratified by Congress and Donegal tabled a badly formulated motion that allowed GAA easy way to argue for retention.

It was same when counties used to complain about Dublin playing Croke Park in Leinster but whose county delegates religiously voted for it.

Problem is not of Dublin's making.

Don`t get me wrong, I am not blaming Dublin for this.

regardless of how it was worded, the majority of county delegates at Congress knew what the substantive issue was but choose a bigger payday in Croke Park over their own county team playing Dublin at a neutral venue.
Quite shameful behaviour imo.

Bonniedog

charlie14 wrote: »

Don`t get me wrong, I am not blaming Dublin for this.

regardless of how it was worded, the majority of county delegates at Congress knew what the substantive issue was but choose a bigger payday in Croke Park over their own county team playing Dublin at a neutral venue.
Quite shameful behaviour imo.

It is.

And you can bet some of them go home and join in the complaining despite voting for it!

An all too common trait among Irish people, unfortunately.

As someone whose main interest is hurling, I really don't get the home and away thing anyway. We have smallish support so PP is perfect venue for our games in Dublin, and I enjoy if I get the chance to travel to other counties, league or championship.

It has become a stick to beat our footballers with and maybe Dublin could make a gesture to resolve it on lines suggested above. Then again the Dublin suits are exactly the same s the other ones! They are great lads, but their ultimate priority is keeping the whole thing ticking over - nationally I mean - and that involves money and gate receipts. but even that is not so much an issue now with Dublin crowds having levelled off and Dublin football supporters being good travellers in any event, as proven in Omagh last year.

Fan of Netflix

Are tickets really being set at €25 for all round 4 games, all sections of the grounds and no concessions for being early? Thats whats on the GAA website.

Surely not, the Ulster final was €18 in, to charge €7 more for a qualifier game is unjustifiable. Can anyone clarify?

dobman88

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Are tickets really being set at €25 for all round 4 games, all sections of the grounds and no concessions for being early? Thats whats on the GAA website.

Surely not, the Ulster final was €18 in, to charge €7 more for a qualifier game is unjustifiable. Can anyone clarify?

Seems standard enough tbh. All prices have gone up this year. Munster and Leinster final was €35. The leinster hurling was €40 yesterday.

Fair play to Ulster charging €18, personally I think €20 or €25 is more than enough to pay for any county game

charlie14

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Are tickets really being set at €25 for all round 4 games, all sections of the grounds and no concessions for being early? Thats whats on the GAA website.

Surely not, the Ulster final was €18 in, to charge €7 more for a qualifier game is unjustifiable. Can anyone clarify?

Ulster Final was 25 for stand tickets, so with it being first come first served in round 4 probably fair enough.

Coillte_Bhoy

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

Are tickets really being set at €25 for all round 4 games, all sections of the grounds and no concessions for being early? Thats whats on the GAA website.

Surely not, the Ulster final was €18 in, to charge €7 more for a qualifier game is unjustifiable. Can anyone clarify?

I think Ulster was the exception. Was €25, and €30 for stand for Mayo/Ross Connaught semi final, i think final was the same

Fan of Netflix

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I think Ulster was the exception. Was €25, and €30 for stand for Mayo/Ross Connaught semi final, i think final was the same

€25 for terrace tickets? FFS thats expensive. I don't understand why stand and terrace tickets are being priced the exact same?

Coillte_Bhoy

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

€25 for terrace tickets? FFS thats expensive. I don't understand why stand and terrace tickets are being priced the exact same?

Theyre not. Was €30 for the stand. Theres no terrace in Castlebar, its concrete seating, not 100% what the final pricing was

Fan of Netflix

charlie14 wrote: »

Ulster Final was 25 for stand tickets, so with it being first come first served in round 4 probably fair enough.

I don't get it surely a qualifier game should be priced lesser than a provincial final not more expensive. €7 extra to stand in the same terrace 2 weeks later. No wonder attendances are down.

Stoner

Fann Linn wrote:

Of course its true. Jim Gavin sent Dermot Connolly, Cooper and Philly McMahon around to threaten the other county secretaries.

And Bonniedog.

Fan of Netflix

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Theyre not. Was €30 for the stand. Theres no terrace in Castlebar, its concrete seating, not 100% what the final pricing was

Ah right, nah I meant in the round 4 game tickets are €25 into Clones terrace and same in other grounds.

charlie14

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I don't get it surely a qualifier game should be priced lesser than a provincial final not more expensive. €7 extra to stand in the same terrace 2 weeks later. No wonder attendances are down.

Majority of these round 4 games, the stands will hold the vast majority of the crowd I imagine, so at 25 euro for a stand ticket it isn`t too bad imo.

zetecescort

pity the GAA don't have ticket deals for Cork and Laois this weekend, 25 euro on Saturday and again on Sunday

ShamoBuc

zetecescort wrote: »

pity the GAA don't have ticket deals for Cork and Laois this weekend, 25 euro on Saturday and again on Sunday

Very true but I reckon more will travel to the football than the hurling. Alot of the hurling fans will probably save the bobs for the kilkenny game- presuming they get over Westmeath of course. Following both codes 'could ' be expensive this year.

Bonniedog

Stoner wrote: »

And Bonniedog.

I held their coats

Fan of Netflix

charlie14 wrote: »

Majority of these round 4 games, the stands will hold the vast majority of the crowd I imagine, so at 25 euro for a stand ticket it isn`t too bad imo.

Maybe so but the seated stand in Clones will be full early. I expect the crowd in Clones will be down on the Ulster championship games given the price increases. It's also on tv now and it's pretty certain Tyrone will win.

Say Your Number

It's only two years since Galway and Donegal played a 4th round game in Sligo, is the Hyde not up to standard or are they expecting a much bigger crowd or something to drag them up to Limerick for it.

Poor_old_gill

Fann Linn wrote: »

Of course its true. Jim Gavin sent Dermot Connolly, Cooper and Philly McMahon around to threaten the other county secretaries.

By all accounts Connolly isnt the threaten type - more of a man of (repeated) action.

doc_17

Playing it in Limerick might negate the need for the larger ground.

C__MC

The hyde hasn't the capacity to host this game
Make no mistake about it, this game is huge. Not the friendliest rivalry by any means. Galway have a chance to beat mayo for the fourth year in a row and save their season. Mayo can see of Kevin Walsh. There will be easily 30000 at this due to what is at stake