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Local Election Season

  • 14-04-2019 2:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭


    That time has come again people you have never heard of before or haven't seen in around five years are knocking on your door when you are just about to sit down to your dinner and watch Emmerdale.

    Local Election season has begun.

    The County is now 6 areas with Rosslare (5 seats) and Kilmuckridge (4 seats) addded to Wexford (7 seats), New Ross (6 seats), Gorey (6 seats) and Enniscorthy (6 seats).


    I don't know much outside Wexford apart from Jackser in Enniscorthy promising Tesco and Pennys if elected. Information I hope is accurate but any mistakes just point them out. Homelssness and Mental Health seem to be the "buzz words" from allot of candidates I've encountered so far

    Wexford 7 Seats
    • FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
    • FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
    • Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
    • Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
    • PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
    • Aontú - Elaine Cole
    • Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
    • Indp. - Leonard Kelly

    Gorey 6 Seats
    • FF - Cllr. Malcolm Byrne, Joe Sullivan
    • FG - Cllr. Anthony Donohoe, Elaine O’Malley Clarke, Diarmuid Devereux
    • Lab - Cllr. Robert Ireton
    • SF - Cllr. Fionntán O Súilleabháin
    • Indp - Jimmy Fleming

    Kilmuckridge 4 Seats
    • FF - Cllr. Pip Breen, Cllr. Willie Kavanagh
    • FG - Cllr. Oliver Walsh, Edel Gahan
    • SF - Colette Nolan
    • Ren - Peter Mernagh
    • Indp - Cllr. Mary Farrell

    New Ross 6 Seats
    • FF - Cllr. Michael Sheehan, Cllr. Michael Whelan, Cllr. John Fleming
    • FG - Cllr. Willie Fitzharris, Brídín Murphy
    • Lab - Bridín Moloney
    • SF - Cllr. Marie Doyle
    • Indp - Cllr. Anthony Connick
    • Indp - John Dwyer
    • Indp - Pat Barden
    • Indp - Aidan Quigley

    Enniscorthy 6 Seats
    • FF - Cllr. Keith Doyle, Cllr. Barbara Anne Murphy, Aidan Browne
    • FG - Cllr. Paddy Kavanagh, Cllr. Kathleen Codd Nolan, Cathal Byrne
    • SF - Cllr. Johnny Mythen
    • REN - Gerald O’Donoghue
    • Indp - Cllr. John O’Rourke
    • Indp - Annette Moran
    • Indp - Jackser Owens

    Rosslare 5 Seats
    • FF - Cllr. Lisa McDonald, Michael Wallace
    • FG - Cllr. Jim Moore, Cllr. Frank Staples, Paul Codd
    • SF - Cllr. Mick Roche
    • Aontú - Jim Codd
    • Indp - Cllr. Ger Carty,
    • Indp -Jane Johnstone


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Decoda




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Talk about Hobson's choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    Had to Google Aontu

    Not for me, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Had to Google Aontu

    Not for me, thanks

    Christian Anti Abortion Republicans is how the Wexford pair are calling themselves. I can't see them doing that well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Christian Anti Abortion Republicans is how the Wexford pair are calling themselves. I can't see them doing that well.

    They were going around the towns in the county last year with placards of aborted foetuses in the presence of impressionable kids.
    I think only their own will vote for any of their candidates.
    Remember the good old days of promising speed bumps,they can't do that now due to the detrimental effect they have on vehicles and especially anyone unfortunate enough to be in the back of an ambulance as it tries to negotiate them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭redfacedbear


    I'm in the new Rosslare area - slim pickings!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    I'm in the new Rosslare area - slim pickings!

    I pity the people of Rosslare greatly - it looks like it's the leftovers of the mediocre politicians in the Wexford and New Ross wards.

    I'm in the Wexford ward, and looking at the names I know which local reps work hard day in day out for the town. I'm not sure I'd let myself go beyond a 4th preference, given the pitiful performance of our incumbents.

    The way I see Wexford, the only dead certs are George Lawlor and Tom Forde. Lawlor has topped the poll before and has been working constantly around the district, and Forde seems like a genuine enough person, who will have the Sinn Féin vote behind him.
    There will be a Fine Gael candidate elected and a Fianna Fáil candidate elected. With Fine Gael I suspect Hegarty is their strongest candidate, but with FF it's a tossup.
    Beyond that, I think that Joe Ryan will win a seat - he seems to be doing a fair amount of work in the area and his record before on the council will stand to him.

    For the last 2 seats it will be a fight between FF and FG's second strongest candidates, and between Leonard Kelly and Davy Hynes.

    A surprise performance by Tony Walsh could threaten to take a seat, but I don't feel like he has the profile to be a contender, and that a lot has changed since 2014. Maura Bell, if Labour transfers work out, could be in with a chance of winning a seat - remembering that Labour had 5/12 seats on the Borough Council in 2004 - bit I don't think it's very likely to happen but there is usually a shock winner and I don't see anyone else with the machine to make it happen behind them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    I despair when I look at the line up for the Gorey area. Looks like I'll only be casting the one vote as the quality overall, is dire.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Duffryman


    And conversely, I look at the Gorey list and wish I could vote there.

    We're a mile and a half from Ferns, so you'd expect we'd fall in either the Enniscorthy or Gorey district. But bizarrely, the new Kilmuckridge area comes right up to our townsland and a few neighbouring ones whose postal addresses are all Ferns too. We’re all in that new area despite having next to no ‘natural’ links with the vast majority of it. Part of the change is that I’ll now have to go four miles out of my way to Boolavogue to vote, instead of a mile and a half to Ferns where I’ve always previously just been able to drop in to vote while dropping the young lad to school, or whatever.

    Similarly, Ballycanew is in the new Kilmuckridge area too, where you’d expect it to be in Gorey. And maybe most bizarrely of all, Oylegate is also in it, when you’d think that either Enniscorthy or Wexford would make much more sense.

    Presume it’s all to do with needing a certain population to merit four seats, but overall, looks to me like too much of an artificial creation and I really don’t see the point of it.

    But back to the first point….I know most of the Gorey candidates and enough about the Enniscorthy ones to know who I’d vote for there too, but the Kilmuckridge area ones are strangers to me. Honestly no idea which way to vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Duffryman wrote: »
    And conversely, I look at the Gorey list and wish I could vote there.

    We're a mile and a half from Ferns, so you'd expect we'd fall in either the Enniscorthy or Gorey district. But bizarrely, the new Kilmuckridge area comes right up to our townsland and a few neighbouring ones whose postal addresses are all Ferns too. We’re all in that new area despite having next to no ‘natural’ links with the vast majority of it. Part of the change is that I’ll now have to go four miles out of my way to Boolavogue to vote, instead of a mile and a half to Ferns where I’ve always previously just been able to drop in to vote while dropping the young lad to school, or whatever.

    Similarly, Ballycanew is in the new Kilmuckridge area too, where you’d expect it to be in Gorey. And maybe most bizarrely of all, Oylegate is also in it, when you’d think that either Enniscorthy or Wexford would make much more sense.

    Presume it’s all to do with needing a certain population to merit four seats, but overall, looks to me like too much of an artificial creation and I really don’t see the point of it.

    But back to the first point….I know most of the Gorey candidates and enough about the Enniscorthy ones to know who I’d vote for there too, but the Kilmuckridge area ones are strangers to me. Honestly no idea which way to vote.

    Well I'm only too familiar with the line up for the Gorey area which is why it is so depressing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭gmurphy70


    Man really poor candidates but doesn’t surprise when you see the performance of our TD’s who are probably one of the worst set of so called politicians in the land. Why would people continue to vote for Labour is beyond me,they completely shafted the working man when in Government. I see the same names across the board, career politicians who we only see once every 5 years, once elected it’s back to the gravy train. Willie Kavanagh, Pip Breen,M Sheehan, John Fleming,W Fitzharris,Michael Whelan,Oliver Walshe,George Lawler. It’s time we move these lifelong career politicians on now,they have zero to offer and only looking for the handy money. It’s time we start looking at the younger guys to hopefully bring about much needed change from the grassroots of local councils.like Malcolm Byrne but he Could be lost to Europe. Fine Gael are too long in power as well,Varadkar couldn’t care less about people outside of the M50, he cares about his image and spends tax money on his spin unit and always available for the photo opp. Not sure who to vote for yet but it won’t be someone that’s in the council for years,keep voting the same tired lot and we get the same.We need young fresh Cllrs with fresh ideas and I would urge everyone to do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,995 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    gmurphy70 wrote: »
    Not sure who to vote for yet but it won’t be someone that’s in the council for years,keep voting the same tired lot and we get the same.We need young fresh Cllrs with fresh ideas and I would urge everyone to do the same.

    Young fresh Councillors very quickly turn in to the same tired lot, as you put it. Politics is for self-serving individuals, despite the rhetoric. It's the circle of life and has been thus for decades


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    gmurphy70 wrote: »
    Man really poor candidates but doesn’t surprise when you see the performance of our TD’s who are probably one of the worst set of so called politicians in the land. Why would people continue to vote for Labour is beyond me,they completely shafted the working man when in Government. I see the same names across the board, career politicians who we only see once every 5 years, once elected it’s back to the gravy train. Willie Kavanagh, Pip Breen,M Sheehan, John Fleming,W Fitzharris,Michael Whelan,Oliver Walshe,George Lawler. It’s time we move these lifelong career politicians on now,they have zero to offer and only looking for the handy money. It’s time we start looking at the younger guys to hopefully bring about much needed change from the grassroots of local councils.like Malcolm Byrne but he Could be lost to Europe. Fine Gael are too long in power as well,Varadkar couldn’t care less about people outside of the M50, he cares about his image and spends tax money on his spin unit and always available for the photo opp. Not sure who to vote for yet but it won’t be someone that’s in the council for years,keep voting the same tired lot and we get the same.We need young fresh Cllrs with fresh ideas and I would urge everyone to do the same.

    This is exactly my point. I look at the list of candidates for the Gorey area and I see more of the same that we have had for the past five years who have done SFA in the area. As I won't vote for any of FF,FG Lab or SF, I am left with only the option of af the independent, Fleming, who was once a SF councillor, then turned coat to go FF, presumably with an eye on the Dáil, that leaves me disenfranchised.
    We need new blood in the area, we need to get away from Labour and the Civil War parties who have ruined the country and run it only for themselves and vested interests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Big Vern


    Just a quick question;
    Im in Wexford Town - so will i only be able to vote for the following:

    Wexford 7 Seats
    FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
    FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
    Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
    Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
    PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
    Aontú - Elaine Cole
    Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
    Indp. - Leonard Kelly


    Thought sure i seen a few Cllr. Ger Carty posters in town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Big Vern wrote: »
    Just a quick question;
    Im in Wexford Town - so will i only be able to vote for the following:

    Wexford 7 Seats
    FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
    FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
    Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
    Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
    PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
    Aontú - Elaine Cole
    Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
    Indp. - Leonard Kelly


    Thought sure i seen a few Cllr. Ger Carty posters in town.

    Yes those 13 are Wexford Town not a great selection but that is just a personal opinion.

    Ger Carty has put up posters in a district area that he can't be voted in which makes no sense


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Big Vern


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Yes those 13 are Wexford Town not a great selection but that is just a personal opinion.

    Ger Carty has put up posters in a district area that he can't be voted in which makes no sense

    Its a terrible selection! I probably seen some Ger Carty posters on the way out of town, Rosslare road.

    The only good thing about this is i wont have Lisa McDonald knocking on my door!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Big Vern wrote: »
    Its a terrible selection! I probably seen some Ger Carty posters on the way out of town, Rosslare road.

    The only good thing about this is i wont have Lisa McDonald knocking on my door!

    Leonard Kelly probably will be my number 1 after that its a hard selection. Lisa McDonald has allot of work to do as she will loose her town support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Big Vern


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Leonard Kelly probably will be my number 1 after that its a hard selection. Lisa McDonald has allot of work to do as she will loose her town support.

    Will definitely give Leonard a vote, he has some good ideas on mental health and giving young people a voice. Some good practical achievable ideas, not the general we need more services rhetoric some of the others have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Big Vern


    I seen a Ger Carty poster outside Wexford Hospital this morning, he is obviously trying to get people form outside the town who come in and out of the hospital.

    But could be a bit confusing for people who could only realise on polling day that they cant vote for him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Big Vern wrote: »
    Just a quick question;
    Im in Wexford Town - so will i only be able to vote for the following:

    Wexford 7 Seats
    FF - Garry Laffin, Colin Murphy
    FG - Cllr. John Hegarty, Angela Reville, Ger Walsh.
    Labour - Cllr. George Lawlor, Joe Ryan, Maura Bell
    Sinn Fein - Cllr. Thomas Forde
    PBP - Cllr. Tony Walsh
    Aontú - Elaine Cole
    Indp - Cllr. Davy Hynes
    Indp. - Leonard Kelly


    Thought sure i seen a few Cllr. Ger Carty posters in town.

    Christ, I wouldn't even know where to start here. I like Forde, but can't abide Sinn Fein. Perhaps Leonard Kelly. After that, I'd rather pull my own nails out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    At times Tom Forde talks sense and does good work but then he starts with the Shinner Mumbo Jumbo 32 county socialist republic yadda yadda and I'm checking out with a no thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Big Vern


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    At times Tom Forde talks sense and does good work but then he starts with the Shinner Mumbo Jumbo 32 county socialist republic yadda yadda and I'm checking out with a no thanks.

    Do they still go on about that? I thought SF had dropped that altogether.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Big Vern wrote: »
    Do they still go on about that? I thought SF had dropped that altogether.

    Its been ramped up recently with all the Brexit talk and Forde has been getting his name in the papers allot apparently he spent 8 grand of his own cash to fix a footpath. He seems to be building quite a profile but will it turn into enough votes for him ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Duffryman


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    apparently he spent 8 grand of his own cash to fix a footpath.

    Really???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Its been ramped up recently with all the Brexit talk and Forde has been getting his name in the papers allot apparently he spent 8 grand of his own cash to fix a footpath. He seems to be building quite a profile but will it turn into enough votes for him ?
    It wasn't his own money, it's council money that each councillor is allowed allocate to infrastructure projects in the town. It is, however, quite generous.
    Forde is doing a good job overall as councillor and I can see him being comfortably reelected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    man98 wrote: »
    It wasn't his own money, it's councilTAXPAYERS money that each councillor is allowed allocate to infrastructure projects in the town. It is, however, quite generous.
    Forde is doing a good job overall as councillor and I can see him being comfortably reelected.


    FYP ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Duffryman


    Whether you want to see it as Council money or taxpayers' money, I think the important thing to note is that it didn't actually come from his own personal pocket.

    Just goes to show how things can get misrepresented....


  • Registered Users Posts: 373 ✭✭Aska


    Apart from the whole family tradition crap that goes on here (and other counties, another Healy-Rae running in locals) and our own Oliver Walsh, Paul Codd, Browne etc...

    How long can they actually serve for if continued re-election of course, Jackser seems to be around forever, surely a time limit on these guys as in the number of years allowed to serve would keep the whole thing fresh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭McLoughlin


    Aska wrote: »
    Apart from the whole family tradition crap that goes on here (and other counties, another Healy-Rae running in locals) and our own Oliver Walsh, Paul Codd, Browne etc...

    How long can they actually serve for if continued re-election of course, Jackser seems to be around forever, surely a time limit on these guys as in the number of years allowed to serve would keep the whole thing fresh?

    I don't think there is a time limit and I can't see that ever changing because they would be voting themselves out of a job.

    RTE have an updated candidates list with a few new runners including one in Wexford District Mícheál Ó Drisceol who ever he is


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭brilou23


    Big Vern wrote: »
    I seen a Ger Carty poster outside Wexford Hospital this morning, he is obviously trying to get people form outside the town who come in and out of the hospital.

    But could be a bit confusing for people who could only realise on polling day that they cant vote for him!

    He works in the hospital


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