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The D15 Local Election Thread

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    I wish I could vote for them all.
    But think I give my number one to a non national very underrepresented on fingal county council.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    beauf wrote: »
    Maybe this needs a separate Ongar thread as it's very Ongar specific.

    Just a suggestion.

    We generally do OK with a single thread for elections, even local ones, so I think it'll be fine and there'll be discussion about the other two LEAs in due course, but we can keep an eye on it. I also think that a lot of local issues affect all three LEAs, so it might get confusing having the same discussion on multiple threads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭[CrimsonGhost]


    beauf wrote: »
    Maybe this needs a separate Ongar thread as it's very Ongar specific.

    Just a suggestion.

    Well if people from the two other LEAs want to do similar, and post them here, then maybe Zaph could update the post on page 1 listing the candidates with links to all three.....just a suggestion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    The only candidate I actually know running is the solidarity one. I'm in mulhuddart lea. I only know him through the repeal campaign.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 TommyBrophy


    I'm voting for Aontu as well. I like their policies and the people they have running are decent people. There is no way I'd vote for Matt Waine. What has he ever done in Ongar? I see Rita Harrold has posters up all over the place. Where is she running? Again, she is just another mouthpiece for the far left. We need decent people in politics and Aontu are the only party with those traits


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 TommyBrophy


    LorelaiG wrote: »
    The only candidate I actually know running is the solidarity one. I'm in mulhuddart lea. I only know him through the repeal campaign.

    Voting based on one item?? Narrow minded to say the least


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Voting based on one item?? Narrow minded to say the least

    Ironic.

    I, and many others, certainly won't be voting for your party, based on one item. It's not us that are narrow minded.

    What's your political background?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    I'll be voting aontu the only party with the courage to take a conservative stance on abortion,
    Rte and politicians bullied the Irish people into voting yes.
    Abortion results in the death of a child yet it's been celebrated like it's s good thing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3 TommyBrophy


    Hurrache wrote: »
    Ironic.

    I, and many others, certainly won't be voting for your party, based on one item. It's not us that are narrow minded.

    What's your political background?

    I am not affiliated with any party


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    Voting based on one item?? Narrow minded to say the least

    I'm not actually sure I revealed who I was voting for? I was merely stating which of the candidates I actually had a clue about. I've genuinely never heard of any of the others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    I'll be voting aontu the only party with the courage to take a conservative stance on abortion,
    Rte and politicians bullied the Irish people into voting yes.
    Abortion results in the death of a child yet it's been celebrated like it's s good thing.

    Oh god here we go. Can we not make this thread about abortion please.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    I'm voting for Aontu as well. I like their policies and the people they have running are decent people. There is no way I'd vote for Matt Waine. What has he ever done in Ongar? I see Rita Harrold has posters up all over the place. Where is she running? Again, she is just another mouthpiece for the far left. We need decent people in politics and Aontu are the only party with those traits

    Rita Harrold is running for Europe in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I am not affiliated with any party

    Your only 2 posts up until now just seemed suspicious, slating every one else and saying how great Aontú are, you can see why anyone would suspect you're a member or working with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,005 ✭✭✭✭Toto Wolfcastle


    Rte and politicians bullied the Irish people into voting yes.

    LOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    Actually yeah wasn't it a rule that it you were affiliated with a party that you had to make that clear from the out set?


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    I'll be voting aontu the only party with the courage to take a conservative stance on abortion,
    Rte and politicians bullied the Irish people into voting yes.
    Abortion results in the death of a child yet it's been celebrated like it's s good thing.

    Fingal County Council can't do anything about abortion. The election is to find councillors to represent the community to the local authority, in this case Fingal County Council.
    Your point might hold more water if they were running in a general election.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    miamee wrote: »
    Fingal County Council can't do anything about abortion. The election is to find councillors to represent the community to the local authority, in this case Fingal County Council.
    Your point might hold more water if they were running in a general election.
    Yes we can start with local authorities.
    Hopefully we can repeal the repealing of the eight before it's too late


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,526 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    With respect, that is a different issue for a different election. There is not a single thing they can do as elected councillors to change something that has already been written into our Constitution - nothing. Local elections are for those who you feel will improve or stand up for your community, be your voice when the county council are allocating funds and resources, etc.

    This might be a helpful read:
    What does a county councillor actually do?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    miamee wrote: »
    With respect, that is a different issue for a different election. There is not a single thing they can do as elected councillors to change something that has already been written into our Constitution - nothing. Local elections are for those who you feel will improve or stand up for your community, be your voice when the county council are allocating funds and resources, etc.

    This might be a helpful read:
    What does a county councillor actually do?

    Councillors can lobby for another referendum the repealing of the eight is s travesty must be reversed, children's lives are at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    The loonies are out in force already.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    LorelaiG wrote: »
    The loonies are out in force already.

    So I'm a looney because I don't think abortion should be used as a form of birth control.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    OK folks, before this gets out of hand, there is to be NO discussion in this thread about abortion, repealing anything in the constitution or anything else along those lines. They are national issues, not local, and while you may choose to support or not support a candidate based on their, or their party's stance on this issue, ultimately as councillors they will have no remit to deal with it.

    And as was mentioned above, should you have an affiliation with a party or candidate, failure to disclose this will result in a forum ban until after the elections if it is found you have been less than honest.

    Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭wildlifeboy


    So I'm a looney because I don't think abortion should be used as a form of birth control.

    yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    Looks like only two of the candidates from Mulhuddart have twitter pages that I can find. Disappointing. If anyone finds more let me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭Remind me


    I fully respect people's decision on how they voted in the referendum but please don't take 1 item and ruin this helpful and informative thread.

    My reasons for not voting for Edward McManus who is running for Aontu is that I am never a fan of people jumping from party to party, I would not be a SF supporter so would never have considered Peadar Toibin and I can't see what McManus has done for the area currently or previously, good luck to him if he gets in but not for me.

    The party I would normally vote for do not have strong candidates IMO so I will be voting for who I feel is most prominent in the area and is seen to work hard and that is Roderic O'Gorman.

    EDIT: Sorry posted this after seeing the Mod post above so please delete if appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    Remind me wrote: »
    I fully respect people's decision on how they voted in the referendum but please don't take 1 item and ruin this helpful and informative thread.

    My reasons for not voting for Edward McManus who is running for Aontu is that I am never a fan of people jumping from party to party, I would not be a SF supporter so would never have considered Peadar Toibin and I can't see what McManus has done for the area currently or previously, good luck to him if he gets in but not for me.

    The party I would normally vote for do not have strong candidates IMO so I will be voting for who I feel is most prominent in the area and is seen to work hard and that is Roderic O'Gorman.

    EDIT: Sorry posted this after seeing the Mod post above so please delete if appropriate.

    Roderic has a fantastic record in the community and he'd be getting a v high preference from me if he was still in my area. He's a gent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    LorelaiG wrote: »
    Roderic has a fantastic record in the community and he'd be getting a v high preference from me if he was still in my area. He's a gent.

    Ditto. He's a huge part of the reason I'm so frustrated that after 15 years of voting in Castleknock lea that we're now in Blanchardstown Mulhuddart.

    Will be interesting to see if we get canvassers this time, in 15 years living in my place I think I've had two ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    Caranica wrote: »
    Ditto. He's a huge part of the reason I'm so frustrated that after 15 years of voting in Castleknock lea that we're now in Blanchardstown Mulhuddart.

    Will be interesting to see if we get canvassers this time, in 15 years living in my place I think I've had two ever.

    They don't seem to knock on my door, just leave leaflets. And I'm home so it's not that I wasn't there when they called.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I've had Punam Rane (FG) canvas this week, and Mary McCamley (Lab) is always around dropping off updates.

    An even though I'm not in Roderic O’Gorman's (Green) LEA, I've met him a few times and he's always good for discussing local issues.

    There was a team from FF a few weeks ago, I'm sure their candidate, JK Onwumereh, wasn't with them, but Jack Chambers was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    Hurrache wrote: »
    I've had Punam Rane (FG) canvas this week, and Mary McCamley (Lab) is always around dropping off updates.

    An even though I'm not in Roderic O’Gorman's (Green) LEA, I've met him a few times and he's always good for discussing local issues.

    There was a team from FF a few weeks ago, I'm sure their candidate, JK Onwumereh, wasn't with them, but Jack Chambers was.

    I've never even heard of Mary McCamley until this thread, she's never been in my estate, not even to drop a leaflet off. We get post from Joan Burton but that's about it.

    Yes, Jack was out with someone called Freddie Cooper. He was here the other weekend. Didn't stop, just handed the leaflet and said he was running in the local elections.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    LorelaiG wrote: »
    Yes, Jack was out with someone called Freddie Cooper. He was here the other weekend. Didn't stop, just handed the leaflet and said he was running in the local elections.

    Had to look up who he is. Previously an Independent, polled quite low. But nothing otherwise about him and FF come up.

    I suppose with the number of seats in the Blanchardstown/Mulhuddart LEA a candidate can pick a couple of areas and concentrate on them to be sure of a seat. I've had reason to mail all councillors before and I always know in advance who will respond to me.

    There's councillors who just won't bother with you for reasons I suspect are because you're not from an area in which they'd get a good number of votes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    LorelaiG wrote: »
    I've never even heard of Mary McCamley until this thread, she's never been in my estate, not even to drop a leaflet off. We get post from Joan Burton but that's about it.

    I know her through one of the community groups I'm involved in, she's been very supportive. To be honest I thought for years that she was in swords or another part of Fingal but in more recent years she's been of great assistance to us. She's no Roderic but I still rate her highly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Well the goddamn posters have already infested the place, a quite hilarious medium in this day and age, maybe a soapbox outside the bookies in Ongar should be the next 21st century approach.

    Many of the posters are breaking the rules by being below head height etc, ive started reporting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭miss misty


    Who do you report them to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    The council. I've tried asking the responsible party to fix or remove them before but I've had snotty and dickish replies, I'm looking at you socialists whatever you're calling yourselves these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Just home. Spotted some posters for Lorna Nolan, had never heard of her. Got in and there was a leaflet from her, reading through it she was very close to getting a vote from me until I turned the leaflet over and saw "supporting Clare Daly". That would be a no then!

    Also 2 FF leaflets, they went straight in the green bin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Hotels/pubs/community centres must love the few months before local elections. There have been posters for public meetings being hosted by candidates on crime, cyber bullying, all the good stuff over the past month or two.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    Hotels/pubs/community centres must love the few months before local elections. There have been posters for public meetings being hosted by candidates on crime, cyber bullying, all the good stuff over the past month or two.

    It amazing 2 weeks after the elections all these issues will be sorted with no need for public meetings,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    It amazing 2 weeks after the elections all these issues will be sorted with no need for public meetings,

    One of the candidates near me has also organised a clean up of the park this morning. The park's been covered in litter for years.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    One of the candidates near me has also organised a clean up of the park this morning. The park's been covered in litter for years.

    If I was cynical I would think they were only doing all these good deeds to get elected.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    One of the candidates near me has also organised a clean up of the park this morning. The park's been covered in litter for years.

    Well that clean up this morning will do for another five years until the next local council elections


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I've not heard of many of these candidates before. The ones I have heard of only a handful have been active in local issues. I don't think any have been effective in getting things done but a couple are at least trying over the past few years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    beauf wrote: »
    I've not heard of many of these candidates before. The ones I have heard of only a handful have been active in local issues. I don't think any have been effective in getting things done but a couple are at least trying over the past few years.

    Just vote for the best looking one.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    One of the candidates near me has also organised a clean up of the park this morning. The park's been covered in litter for years.

    Which park?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Which park?

    Castlecurragh


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭LorelaiG


    One of the candidates near me has also organised a clean up of the park this morning. The park's been covered in litter for years.

    Which candidate?

    As far as I can tell, only two sitting councillors have decided to run in the Mulhuddart LEA the rest have decided to jump ship to the new Ongar LEA, which is disappointing. I've actually no idea who any of the new candidates are, bar John Burchaell who is running for Solidarity and that's only through the repeal campaign, again, I've not heard of him doing anything in the local community before that. Mary McCamley and Lorna Nolan have never darkened my door nor have I heard of them involved in any community events over the past couple of years.

    It's going to be hard to decide who to vote for.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭Charles Ingles


    JK Onwumereh (FF)
    He has the best poster so I'm voting for him


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    LorelaiG wrote: »
    Which candidate?

    The Aontas one. One of her supporters was knocking on doors last night and told me about it. No idea if it went ahead though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,177 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    LorelaiG wrote: »
    Mary McCamley and Lorna Nolan have never darkened my door nor have I heard of them involved in any community events over the past couple of years.

    I can confirm Mary McCamley has been very supportive of the community group I'm involved in but other than that I wouldn't know her as my area has just moved in to Mulhuddart Blanchardstown. I'd find it a lot easier to vote in Castleknock as I have done for 15 years living here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,044 ✭✭✭Gaspode


    JK Onwumereh (FF)
    He has the best poster so I'm voting for him

    @Charles Ingles - If you've nothing useful to add to this thread, please don't post here any more. There are plenty of humour threads on boards that might suit


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