Limerick Local Elections

kilburn

Mc Love wrote:

No doubt it was a horrific attack, but did you contact the Gardai?? Being a witness surely you'd have been able to identify the two males?

Did you read my original post?

This isn't about you vs me on cycling or cycle lanes, it's about the local election candidates ignoring crime and attacking one candidate who brought it up.

Any candidate who says there is not an issue with crime and anti social behaviour is not credible

Mc Love

Missed that - my bad!

Who attacked Brian O'Connor for bringing it up? I know people were saying was there much they can do, sure they can, they can meet with the Superintendent, appeal to the gov to get more "bobbies" on the beat.

Which candidates have said there's no issue with crime? I doubt they'd deny it but they haven't been actively promoting it as one of their policies but have received feedback from the public regarding it.

How much have the current local government done about it? Maybe thats why it isnt being focused on, because of the lack of change they can make.

zimmermania

bigpink wrote: »

So far the only normal working class candidates seem Brian o Connor and John Costeloe

WORKING CLASS?do you mean left wing or one who has a job or desires to have a job?

John Costelloe was in business with his father all his life i believe and i know nothing about Brian OConnor employment record.

stefanovich

Mc Love wrote: »

We clearly know where you stand as you're for hate speech and against legislating for it as a crime.:eek:

Quite an accusation. I am most certainly not for hate speech. I am against the extreme left defining what hate speech is.

chicorytip

kilburn wrote:

Folks your all going on about things not relevant to the local election and ignoring comments that are Limerick issues.

Since the redrawing of the local electoral boundries I am no longer able to vote for the candidates I like and have supported in the past as they are now running in areas other than where I am registered to vote. What was wrong with the old system? The overall calibre of candidates contesting local elections never seems to increase regardless. Far too many are campaigning on a far too narrow platform raising issues of concern only pertaining to their own immediate neighbourhoods.

kilburn

chicorytip wrote:

Since the redrawing of the local electoral boundries I am no longer able to vote for the candidates I like and have supported in the past as they are now running in areas other than where I am registered to vote. What was wrong with the old system? The overall calibre of candidates contesting local elections never seems to increase regardless. Far too many are campaigning on a far too narrow platform raising issues of concern only pertaining to their own immediate neighbourhoods.

To be fair these are the local elections those conversations are for the general election.

Irish Wolf

bigpink wrote: »

Actually any list of where the candidates are from?

Candidate details here: https://www.limerick.ie/sites/default/files/media/documents/2019-05/Notice%20of%20Poll%2008.05.2019.pdf

Granadino

I wonder will Mr Talukdar, the FF guy get many votes? As in, local elections, as mentioned are all about people doing things for the local area. Street lights, potholes etc. Will he have enough of a fan base.
To me there seems to be an awful lot of candidates for a small area. I won't be here to vote, so all the one to me, but I can't see much difference between any of them these days.
Nobody or party stands out to me anymore.

stefanovich

Irish Wolf wrote: »

Candidate details here: https://www.limerick.ie/sites/default/files/media/documents/2019-05/Notice%20of%20Poll%2008.05.2019.pdf

Ruth Clarke and Des Hayes..... seem to be in some kind of coalition. I spoke to the latter once, seemed a shifty fellow. Wouldn't buy a carpet off him.

panda100

Johnny_BravoIII wrote: »

Does anyone have a link to crime rates in Limerick city and nationwide? It would be good to see where the city actually is.

Crime stats by Garda station can be found here .

chicorytip

kilburn wrote:

To be fair these are the local elections those conversations are for the general election.

What do you mean? These issues are every bit as relevant to local contests as they are to national ones.

zimmermania

grenadino wrote: »

I wonder will Mr Talukdar, the FF guy get many votes? As in, local elections, as mentioned are all about people doing things for the local area. Street lights, potholes etc. Will he have enough of a fan base.
To me there seems to be an awful lot of candidates for a small area. I won't be here to vote, so all the one to me, but I can't see much difference between any of them these days.
Nobody or party stands out to me anymore.

I will tell you how many votes he will get when polls close on friday.

Johnny_BravoIII

panda100 wrote: »

Crime stats by Garda station can be found here .

Ok I think it's important we frame the crime issue correctly.
Incidents of crime reporting in Limerick from Q1 2010 to Q4 2018 have fallen from 7,071 to 5,372 (a drop of 24%). This is across 71 crime categories (including driving offences etc)

I don't have a huge amount of time to spend on this.
From first glance, it looks like the only category of crime which has seen a significant increase is offences against police officers.

If we compare the full year 2011 to the full year 2018 we can see a significant decrease in almost every category: Robbery from a person (-41%), Aggravated burglary (-46%), Burglary and related offences (-37%), other drugs offences (-67%), damage to property (-43%)....

Yes we need to be tough on crime because we know that both the carrot and the stick are required.

I'm not comfortable with a campaign which may result in vulnerable people feeling more vulnerable in their homes.
The type of language being used here is all wrong from my perspective. In general, things are getting better with regard to crime. If we want to talk about specific social issues. Let's research best practice from other place and figure out the most effective intervention. Instead we get this 'shooting from the hip' "release the hounds" type of rhetoric.

Limerick has had it's dark days but the future is bright. I listened to James Collins (current mayor) today. He spoke about the economic regeneration currently underway in Limerick City. They have surpassed all their targets for job creation, capital investment, etc. Major projects have reached completion including Troy Studios, Hanging Gardens. Next is the Opera Centre, Cleeves site, LIT have major plans for expansion etc. There is plenty to shout about.

We should be congratulating the Gardai for their work in recent years and supporting them with the resources they required to continue meeting their targets.

Do we really need another politicians who know nothing about policing shouting about setting police dogs on teenagers? Can we please dear god move away from gobeen political representation which seeks to say whatever they think will get traction this minute? Can we please start voting for people who deeply understand the issues, have deeply thought out positions and have a vision for the future of Limerick? It’s time that we as voters demanded more.

kilburn

So your basing that on gardai reported numbers remember the drink driving tests.

No politician is trying to scare people into voting it's common knowledge their has been an increase in issues with random assaults and teenage gangs running amok in annacotty and the city north area

Out of curiosity why is he a half wit?

Johnny_BravoIII

kilburn wrote: »

Out of curiosity why is he a half wit?

I've edited the post for unpolite language.

The Specialist

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/417324/limerick-fine-gael-candidate-criticised-for-call-to-deploy-garda-dogs-on-teenagers.html

All the mouthpieces hitting out against his comments and not a single one of them has a proposal to deal with anti-social behaviour - typical.

I couldn't care less if some scumbag gets mauled by a garda dog or killed by one, serves them right and would be one less piece of **** in the city.

Laughed at this one though

“We shouldn’t be surprised though, as Fine Gael has a long record of anti-social behaviour including cutting child benefit, lone parents allowance and back to school allowances,” she said.

It is our disgustingly over generous welfare system which is responsible for breeding the type of post-natal abortion candidates that carry out this anti-social behaviour - but this one somehow plays the "poor them" card to deflect from that.

kilburn

Really don't get the issue all police forces except us use dog patrols to deal with anti social behaviour.

chicorytip

The Specialist wrote:

It is our disgustingly over generous welfare system which is responsible for breeding the type of post-natal abortion candidates that carry out this anti-social behaviour - but this one somehow plays the "poor them" card to deflect from that.

kilburn wrote:

Really don't get the issue all police forces except us use dog patrols to deal with anti social behaviour.

I would contend that many of these young offenders are not from the stereotypically described dysfunctional, deprived, welfare dependant stratum of society but, rather, could be described as spoilt, overpriveliged, and delinquent middle class brats. Witness the recent spate of attacks in Annacotty not to mention the annual UL Rag Week "vandalfest".

The Specialist

chicorytip wrote: »

I would contend that many of these young offenders are not from the stereotypically described dysfunctional, deprived, welfare dependant stratum of society but, rather, could be described as spoilt, overpriveliged, and delinquent middle class brats. Witness the recent spate of attacks in Annacotty not to mention the annual UL Rag Week "vandalfest".

And I would completely refute that from personal experiences and of those I know - I know a feral waste of air when I see one and they are certainly not “middle class” posh boys pretending to be scumbags. These are kids who are total scum, raised by scum and will never be anything but scum.

Treepole

Interesting story on the front page of the leader this week on the spending by the city council of what seems an extraordinary amount of money on food & beverages from the Fine Gael linked Bobby Byrnes Pub.

damowill

Treepole wrote: »

Interesting story on the front page of the leader this week on the spending by the city council of what seems an extraordinary amount of money on food & beverages from the Fine Gael linked Bobby Byrnes Pub.

Except Fianna Fàil have control of the Council

kilburn

damowill wrote:

Except Fianna Fàil have control of the Council

Bobby Byrne's does decent food I imagine the food in Jerry O'Deas is.......

Treepole

damowill wrote: »

Treepole wrote: »

Interesting story on the front page of the leader this week on the spending by the city council of what seems an extraordinary amount of money on food & beverages from the Fine Gael linked Bobby Byrnes Pub.

Except Fianna Fàil have control of the Council

Thats ok then

leakyboots

What's the story with Aontú? New political party? Anyone wanna give me a Twitter-length summary? Seem to be on a housing/healthcare platform

jonski

leakyboots wrote: »

What's the story with Aontú? New political party? Anyone wanna give me a Twitter-length summary? Seem to be on a housing/healthcare platform

Ideology:

Irish republicanism
Irish reunification
Anti-abortion
Soft Euroscepticism


No thanks .

bigpink

Treepole wrote: »

Interesting story on the front page of the leader this week on the spending by the city council of what seems an extraordinary amount of money on food & beverages from the Fine Gael linked Bobby Byrnes Pub.

Social Democrats have gotten it out there

stefanovich

jonski wrote: »

Ideology:

Irish republicanism
Irish reunification
Anti-abortion
Soft Euroscepticism


No thanks .

Sinn Fein pro lifers.

s7ryf3925pivug

damowill wrote: »

Except Fianna Fàil have control of the Council

€20 delivery fee for a couple of euro of biscuits from a place the other side of town to the council offices beside The Lock. I’d actually prefer to think there are backhanders involved because it would be even worse to think they’re just that nonchalant about stupid wastes of money.

Bobby Byrne’s previously belonged to a member of government and now belongs to their relation so there is a conflict of interest with using them at all.

Granadino

You know what will happen over the tea and biscuits fiasco? Nothing, because it will go under the radar, and most people will be unaware of it, or won't care. It'll be the independents and smaller party members who will just continue to out the members of the bigger parties of wrong doings, but nothing will happen. Nobody will resign.

kilburn

To be fair it was sent out for tender and all firms would include a call out charge