Limerick Local Elections

kilburn

To be fair a few of them have made it clear who they are themselves multiple times in numerous threads and mentioned Twitter arguments.

I do agree with you though this form has gone downhill over the years lots of angry pedantic people out there

Mc Love

Azad Talukder on Sean O'Rourke now. Said he doesnt know what the difference is between the parties and doesnt know what FF stand for or what policies they would implement.

Seriously how did this guy get elected?

Johnny_BravoIII

kilburn wrote: »

To be fair a few of them have made it clear who they are themselves multiple times in numerous threads and mentioned Twitter arguments.

I do agree with you though this form has gone downhill over the years lots of angry pedantic people out there

Ok I've deleted the post. If they revealed their own identity then it's on them

Cordell

*Mod Note: No need for posts like this please. *

Cookiemunster

His first preference votes didn't get him elected. The 300 transfers he got kept him in it until he was the last man standing.

JamesBond2010

i actually mailed them now telling them not forget to take down their posters that there is some still left up in areas.:):)

Cordell

Cookiemunster wrote: »

His first preference votes didn't get him elected. The 300 transfers he got kept him in it until he was the last man standing.

His first preference votes didn't get him elected on their own, but they were the most important as they put him in the position to be elected by getting transfers.

ejmaztec

Cordell wrote: »

His first preference votes didn't get him elected on their own, but they were the most important as they put him in the position to be elected by getting transfers.

I'm surprised that the next eliminated candidate isn't breathing fire and smoke, given the alleged impropriety at the polling station. Has it now been decided that nothing untoward took place?

Cookiemunster

ejmaztec wrote: »

I'm surprised that the next eliminated candidate isn't breathing fire and smoke, given the alleged impropriety at the polling station. Has it now been decided that nothing untoward took place?

Because unlike us, those in authority are in possession of the actual facts of what went on.

JamesBond2010

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Because unlike us, those in authority are in possession of the actual facts of what went on.

Here is the Article from the Leader website on the 27th




GARDAI say they have not received any complaints of assault following reports of scuffles outside a polling station in Limerick city during Friday’s elections
However, they have confirmed that members of the force did attend at St Michael’s School, Pery Square on a number of occasions.
In a statement issued this Monday morning, a spokesman said: “An Garda Síochána did not attend this polling station because of ‘scuffles between rival supporters’ and have not received any complaints of assault or public order.”
The statement added: “Gardaí, did however, attend the polling station on two occasions in relation to a possible breach of the Electoral Act 1922 (canvassing within 50 meters of the polling station). On both occasions no breach was found.
On Friday, Joe Kemmy of the Labour Party told the Limerick Leader there were numerous incidents where supporters of a particular individual had breached the Electoral Act rules which state: “A person shall not interfere with or obstruct or impede an elector going to or coming from or in the vicinity of or in a polling station.”
Read also: Fianna Fail candidate opens up about election drama at Limerick city polling station

Prior to his election as Limerick’s first Muslim councillor in the early hours of this Monday morning, Abul Kalam Azad Talukder, Fianna Fail, stated: "We faced a lot of problems at one polling station in particular. Unfortunately, people were threatened, people got abused. A lot of other things happened at St Michael's School," he said.
https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/politics/420029/gardai-move-to-clarify-reports-of-scuffles-outside-limerick-polling-station.html

zimmermania

The returning officer Patrick Wallace made a visit to the polling station in question and spent 30 minutes approx there.
The gardai visited on 4 occasions at the request of the presiding officer so perhaps we could be informed why she called them.
The presiding officer came out of the station on 3 or 4 occasions and was seen by a large number of people asking people to move 50 yards from the polling station.

She had to do this on a number of occasions and yet people remained much closer to the station until the polls closed.

Questions need to be answered as to what they were doing there and why they could not be removed.

kilburn

So to clarify if I was going voting and a candidate was standing talking to members of the public at the entrance door is that a breach ?

Cordell

Canvassing and just talking are two different things, and often politicians cannot make that difference

OfTheMarsWongs

As it seems relevant to a few recent posts on this thread, here’s the link to the Electoral Act (1992).

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/act/23/section/147/enacted/en/html

“2) During the period commencing 30 minutes before the time appointed for the taking of a poll at an election, including a poll which has been adjourned under section 107 , and ending 30 minutes after the close of the said poll, a person shall not, in or in the curtilage of a polling station or in any place within 100 metres of such station, for the purpose of promoting the interest of a political party or furthering the candidature of a candidate or candidates or soliciting votes for a candidate or candidates or for any contrary purpose, do any or all of the following things:..”

s7ryf3925pivug

ejmaztec wrote: »

I'm surprised that the next eliminated candidate isn't breathing fire and smoke, given the alleged impropriety at the polling station. Has it now been decided that nothing untoward took place?

The guy who missed out was the GP candidate. He has been independently monitoring pollution in various areas, including Mungret where the cement factory is. He is an academic who is actively researching the effects of the cement factory and the new incinerators. Imo he was a big loss not to have in, but he also doesn't sound like someone who would kick up a fuss about this sort of situation.

It's unclear how much of a transgression the taxi guy made. SF have provided buses to polling stations from areas that support them, so there is a precedent for providing the transport. In terms of his canvassing, obviously that's not allowed, but you could assume the people he was talking to were going to vote for him anyway, maybe not sure how.

I find it bizarre that asylum seekers get votes. Even as I put that down I had to double check I wasn't wrong. Not delighted that if he took advantage of that, but he's not breaking the rules by doing so.

Imo even if he didn't do enough to justify a penalty or disqualification, it was very bad for him to do that. His platform is supposed to be about integration, this sort of behaviour doesn't do much for their image as a group, and mobilizing as a bloc doesn't convey a desire to integrate.

Mc Love

Corinne Limited Page wrote: »

Imo even if he didn't do enough to justify a penalty or disqualification, it was very bad for him to do that. His platform is supposed to be about integration, this sort of behaviour doesn't do much for their image as a group, and mobilizing as a bloc doesn't convey a desire to integrate.

For a guy that had no idea about Fianna Fail or what they stood for, he's doing a great job integrating into the party and its image

Kenny B

Mc Love wrote: »

For a guy that had no idea about Fianna Fail or what they stood for, he's doing a great job integrating into the party and its image

I heard him on the radio (not paying too much attention honestly), What I took from it was -
He worked for Peter Power and admitted he knew little of the differences between the political parties but said it was the people and personalities he liked which was why he fell for FF.
They is a real racist whiff off some of these posts, let's see the lists of people who voted illegally, until then it's more Makey uppy stuff,

Cordell

The racist whiff comes from rounding up people with similar background in order to get their votes in a us vs them mindset, and not from pointing that out for what it is: divisive identity politics totally opposed to the integration idea.

I'm an immigrant myself so I can't be racist :P

geotrig

Kenny B wrote: »

I heard him on the radio (not paying too much attention honestly), What I took from it was -
He worked for Peter Power and admitted he knew little of the differences between the political parties

I've lived here all my life and couldn't tell you the differences and i'd guess the same with half of Ireland :pac:

I think its a good thing there is a now a muslim representive on the council the, and if people who are living in our communities cant vote , aslyum seekers ,foreigners etc then whats the point ? We all live here

Kenny B

Cordell wrote: »

The racist whiff comes from rounding up people with similar background in order to get their votes in a us vs them mindset, and not from pointing that out for what it is: divisive identity politics totally opposed to the integration idea.

I'm an immigrant myself so I can't be racist :P

Like FF and Healy-Reas running mini buses to get people 'their people' out to vote, nothing new in that.

JamesBond2010

Cordell wrote: »

The racist whiff comes from rounding up people with similar background in order to get their votes in a us vs them mindset, and not from pointing that out for what it is: divisive identity politics totally opposed to the integration idea.

I'm an immigrant myself so I can't be racist :P

famous father ted video:D:D:D

Cordell

Kenny B wrote: »

Like FF and Healy-Reas running mini buses to get people 'their people' out to vote, nothing new in that.

Of course it's not new, but that does not make it acceptable either.

realdanbreen

kilburn wrote: »

Any idea what the % turnout is in some of the areas of the city with high unemployment?

Apart from those unable to work for whatever reason I would be paying zero attention to areas of high unemployment in the current climate of almost full employment. There is at least one sitting TD who puts most of his energy into arranging benefits for constituents but appears to be powerless to assist the working man/woman.

zimmermania

kilburn wrote: »

So to clarify if I was going voting and a candidate was standing talking to members of the public at the entrance door is that a breach ?

I was not talking about the candidate but up to 10 people not more than 10 yards from the polling station who were inside the appropriate distance for most of the day "greeting" people as they arrived to vote.

I have no problem with voters arriving in taxis to vote all parties try to ensure they get the voters out.

I have great respect for Muslims and most are hard working and good citizens who are more than welcome to live in Ireland (in my opinion)

It is obvious the candidate and his supporters were making every effort to secure the maximum vote and who could blame them?

My only problem is that there was a total failure to enforce a simple and straightforward law and now there is an attempt to give the impression that nobody acted outside the law.

Several public reps saw it,journalists saw it,gardai saw it,election officials saw it and by the way i was there for more than 11 hours.

ejmaztec

Kenny B wrote: »

Like FF and Healy-Reas running mini buses to get people 'their people' out to vote, nothing new in that.

We all probably know at least one person who manages to get a lift to the polling station, and doesn't vote for the candidate who was responsible for getting them there

kingtut

Just talk a walk around my area and found 3 poles that had cable ties just lying at the bottom of them! Such a disgrace! This is why they should be legally obliged to print their names on the cable ties. It's pure littering and shows the candidates don't give a damn about the environment.

There are also plenty of posters still up (I took a photo of a few of them so I can check them again when the posters are removed and see which candidate they belonged to).

chicorytip

realdanbreen wrote:

Apart from those unable to work for whatever reason I would be paying zero attention to areas of high unemployment in the current climate of almost full employment. There is at least one sitting TD who puts most of his energy into arranging benefits for constituents but appears to be powerless to assist the working man/woman.

"Arranging benefits" could mean assisting the elderly or retired with applications for the state pension or the living alone allowance, for example. Many such people may find the burecratic process involved difficult to deal with by themselves. I think the concept of full employment has always existed in the realms of fantasy. At the height of the last boom there were over one hundred thousand people per week signing for unemployment payments. In a small economy like ours that size of cohort will continue to exist and there are varied reasons for that but I think the era of the work shy scrounger being able to claim benefits for life has well and truly past.

JamesBond2010

chicorytip wrote: »

"Arranging benefits" could mean assisting the elderly or retired with applications for the state pension or the living alone allowance, for example. Many such people may find the burecratic process involved difficult to deal with by themselves. I think the concept of full employment has always existed in the realms of fantasy. At the height of the last boom there were over one hundred thousand people per week signing for unemployment payments. In a small economy like ours that size of cohort will continue to exist and there are varied reasons for that but I think the era of the work shy scrounger being able to claim benefits for life has well and truly past.

Think Again There is always ways around the system. They always find them & get away with it for the most part.i was watching it one day when in Social welfare. Too many expletives if I explain further.

The Specialist

Kenny B wrote: »

Like FF and Healy-Reas running mini buses to get people 'their people' out to vote, nothing new in that.

It’s fraud whatever way you paint it. This candidate broke election rules, hasn’t a clue about what the the party he’s standing for has as policies or anything else but still gets a seat??! I don’t think foreign nationals should have a vote - what use is their input?

Limerick is not Iraq and the sooner the Muslim population start adapting this the better. If you want sharia and to dictate what gender of paramedics call to your store - you can **** the **** off and so can they.

The Specialist

]It’s fraud whatever way you paint it. This candidate broke election rules, hasn’t a clue about what the the party he’s standing for has as policies or anything else but still gets a seat??! I don’t think foreign nationals should have a vote - what use is their input?

Limerick is not Iraq and the sooner the Muslim population start adapting this the better. If you want sharia and to dictate what gender of paramedics call to your store - you can **** the **** off and so can they.

We don’t “need “ to accept this view - the Muslims can adjust or they can **** off to whatever ****hole in the desert they crawled out of.