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Antisemitism rising sharply across Europe

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    #782
    Dohnjoe
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    By the way I have never encountered antisemitism from muslims of any background.

    My mom has even worn her star of David around muslims etc. They have always been really kind.

    Have Muslim colleagues, friends and used to live in a largely Muslim neighbourhood for awhile (on the continent) not to generalise too much, but the anti-semitism was indeed quite noticeable


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    #783
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Have Muslim colleagues, friends and used to live in a largely Muslim neighbourhood for awhile (on the continent) not to generalise too much, but the anti-semitism was indeed quite noticeable


    Ok well i've not had that personal experience at all.

    Catholics on the other hand.

    And I have muslim friends etc. Its never been an issue.


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    #784
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    I'll say the Israeli lobby owns Trump for sure. However many Jews would be liberal and some anti-Israeli. It's just a religion, despite Israeli propaganda.

    i can accept there divisions with the overall concept of Judaism and certainly not all of them are gung-ho Zionists.
    I'm sure that under normal distribution of a bell curve there is a strong cohort that have the same view i.e. rule the world and support the state of Israel regardless.


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    #785
    ILoveYourVibes
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    i can accept there divisions with the overall concept of Judaism and certainly not all of them are gung-ho Zionists.
    I'm sure that under normal distribution of a bell curve there is a strong cohort that have the same view i.e. rule the world and support the state of Israel regardless.


    There is only about 17 million jews worldwide...its like 4 % of the worlds population how are we going to rule the world?


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    #786
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,691 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Not surprised really- treating Palestinian ppl like dirt- even moderates are appalled at this on going slow genocide, displacement policy etc etc and before anyone jumps I lived in the area in the 80s and witnessed first hand the treatment normal Palestinian folk went through ( not talking about ppl involved in any form of revolution / terror/ freedom fighting - call it what you will)normal people trying to live


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    #787
    paw patrol
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    There is only about 17 million jews worldwide...its like 4 % of the worlds population how are we going to rule the world?

    money. the only number that really matter.

    throw in positions of influence in media/banking/politics within major wealth centres of the world like new York/London.
    then BOOM .major influence achieved.

    of course I don't seriously think they rule the world but they've huge influence as a lobby despite their relative small numbers.

    Tying this back to my original post...rumours of their demise due to the ranting and minor street violence of a few malcontents at the edge of the political spectrum as vastly overblown.


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    #788
    Palmach
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    money. the only number that really matter.

    .

    Of course if there is money Jews must be involved. Nothing dodgy about this viewpoint. No sir.


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    #789
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    paw patrol wrote: »
    money. the only number that really matter.

    throw in positions of influence in media/banking/politics within major wealth centres of the world like new York/London.
    then BOOM .major influence achieved.

    of course I don't seriously think they rule the world but they've huge influence as a lobby despite their relative small numbers.
    Exactly how much influence do you think Jews in Ireland have then hmm?


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    #790
    Igotadose
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    There is only about 17 million jews worldwide...its like 4 % of the worlds population how are we going to rule the world?

    More like .2%. Imagine if it were 4%, the anti-semites would be going crazier.

    Assuming a world population of 7.5 billion people, including anti-semites.


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    #791
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,784 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    http://www.thetower.org/article/who-is-behind-anti-semitic-attacks-in-the-u-s/







    White people only responsible for 14% of antisemitism , arabs arent a category for racial identification of perpetrators , but extrapolating uk metrics where muslims are 8 percent of the population but responsible for over 50% of the antisemitic incidents, its fair to say im not wrong.

    https://www.israelhayom.com/2019/05/02/german-intelligence-issues-taboo-breaking-report-on-muslim-anti-semitism/

    the idea that in the modern day, a tiny tiny population of the US (white supremacists) are responsible for the majority of attacks just isn't credible. 696 incidents, 121 by white people, 31 by black people and the rest in an 'unknown' on a form where arab isnt an option. Statistically per capita it also makes black people more likely to commit antisemitism than white people.
    There's a lot of problems with that, serious agenda pushing problems. Why are you ignoring the unknown offenders when concluding the % of white people? About 25% of crimes were committed by whites when this is removed, as we just don't know

    Next why extrapolate from a very different different country when it comes to crime? You wouldn't do it in any other case

    Third 'unknown race' doesn't seem to be defined anywhere, it seems possible it could also include whites in cases where race wasn't noted.


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    #792
    Igotadose
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    money. the only number that really matter.

    throw in positions of influence in media/banking/politics within major wealth centres of the world like new York/London.
    then BOOM .major influence achieved.

    of course I don't seriously think they rule the world but they've huge influence as a lobby despite their relative small numbers.

    Tying this back to my original post...rumours of their demise due to the ranting and minor street violence of a few malcontents at the edge of the political spectrum as vastly overblown.

    Oh, hadn't heard this pack of lies for awhile. Funny how the bigoted nitwits can't come up with anything new.

    So, how many of those rascally JOOOS are in positions of influence in media? Versus the overall size of the media?

    I'm not even going to ask about banking, I get tired of hearing about the Rothschilds.

    And, great job with that disproportionate influence - I guess the bigoted nitwit is disappointed there are still any of those rascally JOOOS still around. Even in Ireland. Too bad his nitwit heroes didn't finish the job I guess.


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    #793
    Blueshoe
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    Igotadose wrote: »
    Oh, hadn't heard this pack of lies for awhile. Funny how the bigoted nitwits can't come up with anything new.

    So, how many of those rascally JOOOS are in positions of influence in media? Versus the overall size of the media?

    I'm not even going to ask about banking, I get tired of hearing about the Rothschilds.

    And, great job with that disproportionate influence - I guess the bigoted nitwit is disappointed there are still any of those rascally JOOOS still around. Even in Ireland. Too bad his nitwit heroes didn't finish the job I guess.

    https://www-timesofisrael-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-who-made-the-time-100-most-influential-people-list/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQA#aoh=15624090218897&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timesofisrael.com%2Fall-the-jews-who-made-the-time-100-most-influential-people-list%2F

    A who's who in the world of the rich and powerful Jew


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    #794
    ILoveYourVibes
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    Blueshoe wrote: »
    https://www-timesofisrael-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-who-made-the-time-100-most-influential-people-list/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQA#aoh=15624090218897&csi=1&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timesofisrael.com%2Fall-the-jews-who-made-the-time-100-most-influential-people-list%2F

    A who's who in the world of the rich and powerful Jew

    List seems kind of clueless tbh. I could think of way more powerful ones.

    I think they just know wonder woman.


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    #795
    Blueshoe
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    List seems kind of clueless tbh. I could think of way more powerful ones.

    I think they just know wonder woman.

    Zuckerberg is my favourite


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    #796
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Igotadose wrote: »
    More like .2%. Imagine if it were 4%, the anti-semites would be going crazier.

    Assuming a world population of 7.5 billion people, including anti-semites.
    Their jewdar thankfully is way off. :pac:


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    #797
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    I could think of way more powerful ones.

    You or Google? Well, go on so...


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    #798
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Cayden Short Turpentine wrote: »
    You or Google? Well, go on so...


    Yeah I am not going to partake on the antisemitism front.
    It doesn't take a genius to figure out though.

    Any list that doesn't include Roman Abramovich is not really worthwhile.


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    #799
    Blueshoe
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    Yeah I am not going to partake on the antisemitism front.
    It doesn't take a genius to figure out though.

    Any list that doesn't include Roman Abramovich is not really worthwhile.

    The man that cosier up with Vladimir Putin and stabbed all of his business partners in the back. Some went to to jail and most had all of their wealth confiscated.
    Great role model


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    #800
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    The man that cosier up with Vladimir Putin and stabbed all of his business partners in the back. Some went to to jail and most had all of their wealth confiscated.
    Great role model


    That man who went to great effort to avoid Putin.

    And was the only one out of all of those others (who were also jewish so no plot to get the gentiles) to survive the battle with Putin and keep his money and out of prison.

    So maybe yeah you could learn from him. I would say he is a little wise. No?

    By the way.
    Abramovich has reportedly donated more money to charity than any other living Russian.

    Any interview I have seen he is deferring and polite.


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    #801
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Also George Soros. A man who survived the holocaust made a fortune and basically throws money into philanthropy.

    He feels no shame whatever the right say and just doesn't give a ****.


    He is fairly influential.

    Bernie Sanders.


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    riffmongous
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    Cctv of a synagogue arson attack in England, it's not as dramatic as the headline tbh


    Far-right arsonist sets himself on fire as he attempts to burn down synagogue


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    #803
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Cctv of a synagogue arson attack in England, it's not as dramatic as the headline tbh


    Far-right arsonist sets himself on fire as he attempts to burn down synagogue


    That is horrifying. He has plead guilty at least and no one else was hurt. He did set himself on fire though.


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    #804
    riffmongous
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    That is horrifying. He has plead guilty at least and no one else was hurt. He did set himself on fire though.

    Psychotic episode was the claim, although his anti semitism and racism is also apparently deeply rooted. They got lucky the whole place didn't explode, a gas explosion could have taken out the whole building


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    #805
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Psychotic episode was the claim, although his anti semitism and racism is also apparently deeply rooted. They got lucky the whole place didn't explode, a gas explosion could have taken out the whole building


    I hope his wounds heal. And that he lets go of his hateful beliefs.

    I pretty think all antisemitism/racism/homophobia is a prolonged psychotic episode.


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    #806
    Blueshoe
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    That man who went to great effort to avoid Putin.

    And was the only one out of all of those others (who were also jewish so no plot to get the gentiles) to survive the battle with Putin and keep his money and out of prison.

    So maybe yeah you could learn from him. I would say he is a little wise. No?

    By the way.



    Any interview I have seen he is deferring and polite.

    You could look at it that way I suppose. Ethics and morals might be a little suspect perhaps


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    #807
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    You could look at it that way I suppose. Ethics and morals might be a little suspect perhaps


    There is good there. That is what counts.


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    #808
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Oh, hadn't heard this pack of lies for awhile. Funny how the bigoted nitwits can't come up with anything new.

    So, how many of those rascally JOOOS are in positions of influence in media? Versus the overall size of the media?

    I'm not even going to ask about banking, I get tired of hearing about the Rothschilds.

    And, great job with that disproportionate influence - I guess the bigoted nitwit is disappointed there are still any of those rascally JOOOS still around. Even in Ireland. Too bad his nitwit heroes didn't finish the job I guess.

    LOL
    you really didn't read what I wrote did you? my point was clearly that given their influence as a lobby they are in no danger from the rabble . I never gave an opinion on what I thought of that influence or on the Jews and tbh I don't care one way or another about it/them
    you clearly missed that.
    dumbass.


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    #809
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 18,065 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Panorama on tonight about anti-semitism in Labour, will be taking a look


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    #810
    Danzy
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    3 Labour peers left over it.

    It is the facilitation and covering up that has done the damage to Labour.


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    #811
    James Brown
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    Danzy wrote: »
    3 Labour peers left over it.

    It is the facilitation and covering up that has done the damage to Labour.

    I'd be more likely to believe the shiny tory Blarites didn't want a return to socialism and both they and the media are playing this ruse to death.


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