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Extinction Rebellion Ireland

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    #752
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Neither of course, but there is something seriously wrong with our money and credit creation systems
    certainly. what's the alternative?


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    #753
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,767 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    HorrorScope wrote: »
    Considering CO2 emissions only first started being monitored in the 1950's, I don't think you have "millons of years" of records to compare it to - which makes your statement hysterical & inaccurate.

    Not millions but half a million years of records from examining ice cores in Antarctica

    http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/


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    #754
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Well the protestors are moving through merrion row at the moment if anyone is moving about Dublin city


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    #755
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,647 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Not millions but half a million years of records from examining ice cores in Antarctica

    http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/

    Any comment horror scope on this?


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    #756
    lleti
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 271 ✭✭lleti


    Looking forward to the witteh posters from these protests.

    "Raise taxes, not emissions"


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    #757
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    lleti wrote: »
    Looking forward to the witteh posters from these protests.

    "Raise taxes, not emissions"

    Had a quick look at the signs here and we have "The oceans are rising but so is Carlow" and "Rebel for life".


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    #758
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 24,130 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Do we have any specifics as to what locations in Dublin they plan to target?


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    #759
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 29,494 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Larbre34 wrote:
    Do we have any specifics as to what locations in Dublin they plan to target?


    Revenue offices apparently!


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    #760
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Do we have any specifics as to what locations in Dublin they plan to target?

    Starbucks and H&M


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    #761
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,647 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Top story on RTÉ headlines on radio just now


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    #762
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    We need to invest heavily in clean energy.

    We can fund this by:
    Bringing back 3rd level fees.
    Bring back water charges.
    Limit children allowance to a maximum of 2 kids.


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    #763
    railer201
    Registered Users Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Why is overpopulation never mentioned ?
    That's the elephant in the room - fix overpopulation and climate change will take care of itself.

    It is a long term solution of course.

    Precisely that - no one wants to know, they'd rather flute around with pink yachts and hassle motorists that are going about their daily business.


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    #764
    is_that_so
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We need to invest heavily in clean energy.

    We can fund this by:
    Bringing back 3rd level fees.
    Bring back water charges.
    Limit children allowance to a maximum of 2 kids.
    Good luck with that election manifesto!

    Interesting poll at the end of this. They only seem to have the support of one single demographic and even there it's split.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48607989


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    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users Posts: 15,647 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Just to clairify for ppl

    Yes overpopulation is a problem

    However the co2 and other gases in the atmosphere are not going to “go away”.

    Hence we need to screw co2 emissions industries by taxing them heavily and exponentially and use the taxes to invest in green solutions and of course encourage low/zero emission innovations.


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    #766
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Just to clairify for ppl

    Yes overpopulation is a problem

    However the co2 and other gases in the atmosphere are not going to “go away”.

    Hence we need to screw co2 emissions industries by taxing them to the hilt

    Tax them to the hilt...yeh...then when the price of your medicines and goods and services go up what happens?

    De govermint r robbers


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    #767
    Berserker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,046 ✭✭✭Berserker


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We need to invest heavily in clean energy.

    We can fund this by:
    Bringing back 3rd level fees.
    Bring back water charges.
    Limit children allowance to a maximum of 2 kids.

    I see no benefit in doing the first one. You'll just end up with the children of wealthy people getting into the top courses and the number of people going to third level will plummet. The revenue generated would be buttons. Totally agree with you about water charges and whilst I have no problem with option three, that'll never come to pass.


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    #768
    73bc61lyohr0mu
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    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We need to invest heavily in clean energy.

    We can fund this by:
    Bringing back 3rd level fees.
    Bring back water charges.
    Limit children allowance to a maximum of 2 kids.

    Jesus christ. We can't take anymore taxes. Most people are just struggling to make ends meet. We had billions to throw at a hospital and a crooked broadband scheme yet the normal person is in the firing line. And what happens if a family has a third child? Off to the gulag?


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    #769
    topper75
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    Geuze wrote: »
    Fertility rates have fallen all over the rich world.

    Yes but being counteracted by migration all over the rich world with a few exceptions like Japan.

    Should the people of Extinction Rebellion vote The National Party (sorry if that is not what they are called - the Justin lad's party) in Ireland's next GE?

    Africa is expected by the UN to double between 2015 and 2050. 1.2b to 2.4b people. Many will seek a 'better' life up here I assume.


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    #770
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,267 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Tax them to the hilt...yeh...then when the price of your medicines and goods and services go up what happens?

    De govermint r robbers

    Maybe don’t order from just eat or buy take away coffee any more? The levels of snowflakery you get from people on here is crazy, none of you would have survived in the harsher past.


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    #771
    Mr. teddywinkles
    Registered Users Posts: 2,180 ✭✭✭Mr. teddywinkles


    blinding wrote: »
    I don’t think extinction rebellion know whether they are coming or going !

    They are attacking Public Transport = The best Green way to travel .

    They are putting the backs up of ordinary people by causing them problems while keeping away from the 1% that have beniffited most from the policies they are complaining about .

    According to someone posting here the other day if ya earn over e35000 gross a year. Your part of that 1% so if ya earn 349999 a year. Your living in poverty by that reasoning.


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    #772
    weldoninhio
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    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Just to clairify for ppl

    Yes overpopulation is a problem

    However the co2 and other gases in the atmosphere are not going to “go away”.

    Hence we need to screw co2 emissions industries by taxing them heavily and exponentially and use the taxes to invest in green solutions and of course encourage low/zero emission innovations.

    Maybe if all of the crusties held their breaths until they dropped dead (impossible, before crusties start whinging). That would stop some CO2 from entering the atmosphere.


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    #773
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Nathalie Cuddly Slumlord wrote: »
    Jesus christ. We can't take anymore taxes. Most people are just struggling to make ends meet. We had billions to throw at a hospital and a crooked broadband scheme yet the normal person is in the firing line. And what happens if a family has a third child? Off to the gulag?

    Nope. We have to eat them.


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    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    Just to clairify for ppl

    Yes overpopulation is a problem

    However the co2 and other gases in the atmosphere are not going to “go away”.

    Hence we need to screw co2 emissions industries by taxing them heavily and exponentially and use the taxes to invest in green solutions and of course encourage low/zero emission innovations.

    What are these industries? Aviation, power generation? Agriculture? You know the kind of things ordinary people use?


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    #775
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Maybe don’t order from just eat or buy take away coffee any more? The levels of snowflakery you get from people on here is crazy, none of you would have survived in the harsher past.

    The problem is the hypocrisy of the coffee drinking just eat users telling others what they can't have because their own behaviour is destructive.


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    #776
    lleti
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 271 ✭✭lleti


    In fairness, I have to say this about the extinction rebellion group to their credit.

    They're clearly passionate about saving the planet and saving resources.

    Not a shower or haircut in the last year between the lot of them. :)


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    #777
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,267 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    lleti wrote: »
    In fairness, I have to say this about the extinction rebellion group to their credit.

    They're clearly passionate about saving the planet and saving resources.

    Not a shower or haircut in the last year between the lot of them. :)

    Brilliant. So original and funny.


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    #778
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Less consumption worldwide. We’re all in it together.

    The only way to have a glorious revolution comrade, shortages and misery for everyone (except the wealthy and party members) you would have loved the bread lines in the Soviet Union back in the 80s.


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    #779
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users Posts: 14,267 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    The only way to have a glorious revolution comrade, shortages and misery for everyone (except the wealthy and party members) you would have loved the bread lines in the Soviet Union back in the 80s.

    Unfortunately it didn’t work out but yes we probably need to lean towards some kind of communism instead of infinite economic growth which isn’t possible.


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    #780
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Less consumption worldwide. We’re all in it together.

    We are not all in it together. By effectively pricing carbon out of the reach of the masses only the poor are in it together.
    The wealthy won't see a change in living standards. In fact just opposite the story on extinction rebellion on rte is a story about how there is a global shortage of private jet pilots.


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    #781
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    A what now?

    A waster in other words.


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