Saoradh dissident republican march in Dublin

Tomas81

blanch152 wrote: »

According to the PSNI, the structures of the IRA are still in place.

The PSNI aren't the ones tasked with monitoring the IMC are. I haven't seen a report from the PSNI can you direct me to it.

Phileas Frog

Farawayhome wrote: »

They have a history of it, they also have a history of targetting the Nationalist community and inflicting violence and terror on them.

They have a history of targeting terrorists and inflicting violence and terror on them.

batgoat

Farawayhome wrote: »

They have a history of it, they also have a history of targetting the Nationalist community and inflicting violence and terror on them. Do you think British people would be happy with the IRA raiding houses in England?

So no, not recently. They were raids for firearms and rioting served only to escalate the situation, you are absolutely trying to justify the response.

blanch152

Farawayhome wrote: »

The word is that they were raiding houses in Derry. Can you not see the fear and trepidation that would bring to Nationalists knowing what they did the last time? This will give support to groups like the New IRA, no one wants that. They shouldn't be on the streets of Derry. Full stop.

I see, you want to return to the time when if you were an IRA child abuser, you got the protection of the local lads and neither the police nor the security forces could touch you.

blanch152

Tomas81 wrote: »

The PSNI aren't the ones tasked with monitoring the IMC are. I haven't seen a report from the PSNI can you direct me to it.

It got plenty of publicity, if you haven't seen it, it's because you only choose what you want to see.

Berserker

Farawayhome wrote: »

The word is that they were raiding houses in Derry. Can you not see the fear and trepidation that would bring to Nationalists knowing what they did the last time? This will give support to groups like the New IRA, no one wants that. They shouldn't be on the streets of Derry. Full stop.

'The word is .....' but fact tells us something different. The BA do not go around raiding houses. The PSNI do and have done for many years now. Every media outlet and reporter will tell you that the PSNI conducted those raids. Also, if these people were law abiding citizens, there would be no need to raid their houses. If you don't want the police raiding your house then don't break the law. It's that simple.

blanch152

Farawayhome wrote: »

What's this post all about? The British armed forces killed a huge amount of civilians during the recent war, they also intimidated and inflicted violence on the Nationalist community. They should not be stationed on the streets of Derry!

What war? There was no war.

Farawayhome

Phileas Frog wrote: »

They have a history of targeting terrorists and inflicting violence and terror on them.

Not really. 51% of those they killed during the war were innocent civilians, this doesn't include the innocents killed by their unionist allies using their bombs, guns and ammunition.

timthumbni

Farawayhome wrote: »

The word is that they were raiding houses in Derry. .

The word? And who has been putting around this word? The same people who murdered the wee girl by any chance.

Farawayhome

batgoat wrote: »

So no, not recently. They were raids for firearms and rioting served only to escalate the situation, you are absolutely trying to justify the response.

Who's to say they won't start again. They think they were right to murder innocents the last time. The emergence of the New IRA is worrying, the presence of the British armed forces is equally worrying, how can you not see that?

Farawayhome

blanch152 wrote: »

I see, you want to return to the time when if you were an IRA child abuser, you got the protection of the local lads and neither the police nor the security forces could touch you.

The British armed forces set up a paedophile home for them and high ranking British politicians. It's another layer of their horrific history here, they should not be on our streets. Full stop.

batgoat

Farawayhome wrote: »

Who's to say they won't start again. They think they were right to murder innocents the last time. The emergence of the New IRA is worrying, the presence of the British armed forces is equally worrying, how can you not see that?

Nobody would have been murdered on Friday if it were not for the actions of the New IRA. The PSNI were engaging in raids, they were a danger to nobody. You're warping a tragedy perpetrated by scum into your own agenda.

Farawayhome

Berserker wrote: »

'The word is .....' but fact tells us something different. The BA do not go around raiding houses. The PSNI do and have done for many years now. Every media outlet and reporter will tell you that the PSNI conducted those raids. Also, if these people were law abiding citizens, there would be no need to raid their houses. If you don't want the police raiding your house then don't break the law. It's that simple.

Are you joking? The British army have a history of raiding houses, wrecking the place, beating up the occupants etc. And that's if they were lucky!

Farawayhome

blanch152 wrote: »

What war? There was no war.

There was a 30 year war, it was quite recent really, you're not from Ireland? You should read up on it, plenty of books written.

Farawayhome

timthumbni wrote: »

The word? And who has been putting around this word? The same people who murdered the wee girl by any chance.

No, people on the street in Derry.

Tomas81

blanch152 wrote: »

It got plenty of publicity, if you haven't seen it, it's because you only choose what you want to see.

No I remember ACC saying he believed the IRA shot Kev but then back tracked when it was realised he was shot by dissidents.

timthumbni

Farawayhome wrote: »

No, people on the street in Derry.

Yes, like the people on the street in derry who murdered the wee girl..

Tomas81

Tomas81 wrote: »

I remember it, my father and brother were both murdered by them. My father was murder in Ballymurphy massacre, my brother was shot while throwing stones.

hm

Farawayhome

batgoat wrote: »

Nobody would have been murdered on Friday if it were not for the actions of the New IRA. The PSNI were engaging in raids, they were a danger to nobody. You're warping a tragedy perpetrated by scum into your own agenda.

Who said any different? The New IRA should spend time behind bars, what has that got to do with the presence of the British armed forces? You can be against more than one murderous group at the same time you know?

Creol1

Farawayhome wrote: »

There was a 30 year war, it was quite recent really, you're not from Ireland? You should read up on it, plenty of books written.

Is this the one? Not exactly recent... https://www.britannica.com/event/Thirty-Years-War

Farawayhome

timthumbni wrote: »

Yes, like the people on the street in derry who murdered the wee girl..

Not everyone in Creggan is apart of the New IRA, you know this?

Farawayhome

Creol1 wrote: »

Is this the one? Not exactly recent... https://www.britannica.com/event/Thirty-Years-War

You're not Irish either?

Farawayhome

Farawayhome wrote: »

Who said any different? The New IRA should spend time behind bars, what has that got to do with the presence of the British armed forces? You can be against more than one murderous group at the same time you know?

WHAT PRESENCE

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

WHAT PRESENCE

You admitted they were on the streets not that long ago!

Marcus Rashford

We can’t tolerate these guys marching in the streets given what’s gone on.

Farawayhome

Farawayhome wrote: »

You admitted they were on the streets not that long ago!

WHEN?

Seth Brundle

Farawayhome wrote: »

Who's to say they won't start again. They think they were right to murder innocents the last time. The emergence of the New IRA is worrying, the presence of the British armed forces is equally worrying, how can you not see that?

As the presence if the BA is based on grapevine rumour seemingly (with no evidence) and the presence of the New IRA is based on fact, I know which one to believe.

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

WHEN?

Why are you shouting? Remember your expletive ridden post about girl guides?

Seth Brundle

Farawayhome wrote: »

Are you joking? The British army have a history of raiding houses, wrecking the place, beating up the occupants etc. And that's if they were lucky!

Can you tell us when this last happened in Derry with a link to the newspaper involved?

Creol1

Farawayhome wrote: »

You're not Irish either?

Hushed Tones: It was a joke

Farawayhome

Seth Brundle wrote: »

As the presence if the BA is based on grapevine rumour seemingly (with no evidence) and the presence of the New IRA is based on fact, I know which one to believe.

I'm sure when you get evidence you'll be calling for the British army to leave?

Farawayhome

Farawayhome wrote: »

Why are you shouting? Remember your expletive ridden post about girl guides?

You seem to have a problem hearing.

So other than your imagination, have you got any evidence to back up your claims that the army are on the streets of Derry?

Tomas81

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Can you tell us when this last happened in Derry with a link to the newspaper involved?

https://republican-news.org/current/news/2015/08/british_army_carry_out_derry_r.html

Farawayhome

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Can you tell us when this last happened in Derry with a link to the newspaper involved?

You are all having a laugh aren't you? Pretending to not know about the war, pretending to not know about the crimes of the British army.

Farawayhome

Creol1 wrote: »

Hushed Tones: It was a joke

Don't give up the day job. If your day job is being a comedian, then give that up.

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

You seem to have a problem hearing.

So other than your imagination, have you got any evidence to back up your claims that the army are on the streets of Derry?

Yes, eyewitnesses have stated they were there.

batgoat

Tomas81 wrote: »

https://republican-news.org/current/news/2015/08/british_army_carry_out_derry_r.html

So four years ago and nothing to do with Friday's events and key reason at the time appears to be because of the possibility of explosives being present.

Farawayhome wrote: »

Yes, eyewitnesses have stated they were there.

Provide a credible source, please(given the fact literally everyone has a camera on their phone, you'd expect photos). Secondly you really seem to be trying to justifying the behaviour.

Tomas81

batgoat wrote: »

So four years ago and nothing to do with Friday's events and key reason at the time appears to be because of the possibility of explosives being present.

Hahahaha excuses excuses excuses. Was there explosives found no, was this a smoke screen for the raid yes. Do you know what your talking, not a ****ing notion.

Farawayhome

batgoat wrote: »

So four years ago and nothing to do with Friday's events and key reason at the time appears to be because of the possibility of explosives being present.



Provide a credible source, please(given the fact literally everyone has a camera on their phone, you'd expect photos). Secondly you really seem to be trying to justifying the behaviour.

Why do you keep saying I'm trying to justify their behaviour when I've been doing the exact opposite? I don't have a photo.

batgoat

Farawayhome wrote: »

Why do you keep saying I'm trying to justify their behaviour when I've been doing the exact opposite? I don't have a photo.

You should be able to provide a source for your claim still. You haven't been doing the opposite, you've treated the murder of a woman as a soapbox to rant about the British army. We are all aware that they behaved atrociously in the North however the New IRA are the ones who are trying to disrupt the peace at the moment. So this is neither the thread or time to go on rants about the British.

Tomas81

batgoat wrote: »

You should be able to provide a source for your claim still. You haven't been doing the opposite, you've treated the murder of a woman as a soapbox to rant about the British army. We are all aware that they behaved atrociously in the North however the New IRA are the ones who are trying to disrupt the peace at the moment. So this is neither the thread or time to go on rants about the British.

Not a single person has condoned the NIRA we have all stated they are scum. Then you get the unemployed 5k posters on here state pond scum about all republicans

Farawayhome

Farawayhome wrote: »

Yes, eyewitnesses have stated they were there.

and eye witnesses in Ballinspittle saw a statue move.

Farawayhome

batgoat wrote: »

You should be able to provide a source for your claim still. You haven't been doing the opposite, you've treated the murder of a woman as a soapbox to rant about the British army. We are all aware that they behaved atrociously in the North however the New IRA are the ones who are trying to disrupt the peace at the moment. So this is neither the thread or time to go on rants about the British.

Eyewitness testimony is all we have.

I've stated numerous times that the murderer of Lyra should be behind bars. The New IRA are not wanted. I can't make that any clearer. Seperately, the British army are also not wanted. Two murderous gangs on our streets will not end well. I don't get what you disagree with?

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

and eye witnesses in Ballinspittle saw a statue move.

Nationalists weren't believed the last time when they were terrorised in their own homes by the British armed forces. We can't let that be repeated.

FrancieBrady

batgoat wrote: »

however the New IRA are the ones who are trying to disrupt the peace at the moment.

For the last few years we have talked about nothing else but others creating the circumstances for a breakdown of the peace on this island.

It is possible to create the perfect storm for conflict if you are unwillingly to understand why the conflict happens in the first place.

Farawayhome

Farawayhome wrote: »

Nationalists weren't believed the last time when they were terrorised in their own homes by the British armed forces. We can't let that be repeated.

We can’t let the weak minded by caught up in the web of deceit created by the NIRA who are actively trying to rekindle the troubles.

Seth Brundle

Farawayhome wrote: »

I'm sure when you get evidence you'll be calling for the British army to leave?

Give me the evidence and let me decide!

Farawayhome wrote: »

You are all having a laugh aren't you? Pretending to not know about the war, pretending to not know about the crimes of the British army.

There!
Is!
No!
War!!!

Seth Brundle

Tomas81 wrote: »

Hahahaha excuses excuses excuses. Was there explosives found no, was this a smoke screen for the raid yes. Do you know what your talking, not a ****ing notion.

...and yet no impartial write-up, no photos and videos etc?

Farawayhome

Aegir wrote: »

We can’t let the weak minded by caught up in the web of deceit created by the NIRA who are actively trying to rekindle the troubles.

This is what happened last time as well. Innocent people were labelled as being IRA members to discredit them. When proof of British armed forces presence emerges, you will support the calls for them to be removed?

Tomas81

Seth Brundle wrote: »

...and yet no impartial write-up, no photos and videos etc?

Mate your IP address isn't even Irish ya lunatic, why am I entertaining you.