Do you know any transgender people?

fryup

Well do you? i don't know any (as far as i know)

If so how are they received in your area..are they accepted or looked upon as an oddity?

particularly in rural areas...

Arghus

I do not.

I'd like to hear things from their perspective, rather than just having to read hot-take thrash in After Hours.

orourkeda1977

Helllllllllllllllll no

Outlaw Pete

Arghus wrote: »

I'd like to hear things from their perspective, rather than just having to read hot-take thrash in After Hours.

There was a regular poster on AH for years giving their perspective.

Annasopra

fryup wrote: »

Well do you? i don't know any (as far as i know)

If so how are they received in your area..are they accepted or looked upon as an oddity?

particularly in rural areas...

Yes I know a good few. My neighbour is treated very well in the area and accepted too.

TheValeyard

One. Girl to guy, has a better beard than me now. Doing well for himself. Still terrible at telling jokes.

Annasopra

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

There was a regular poster on AH for years giving their perspective.

There was quite a few but honestly I can understand why there isnt anymore when they get such hate and hostility.

Wibbs

Not now, but I did know one many years ago. Or rather I knew them as an acquaintance when they were a he and then bumped into them nearly 20 years later when they were a she. Other than that I've briefly met two down the years.

Outlaw Pete

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

There was quite a few but honestly I can understand why there isnt anymore when they get such hate and hostility.

True, I certainly wouldn't say they got an easy time of it but the poster I'm referring to certainly gave as good as they got

Signore Fancy Pants

Not that I'm aware of.

Serious question...

...is a "transgender male" a female who transitioned to male or is it the other way around?

strandroad

I do but I only realised when I saw them interviewed for a newspaper. You can't really tell otherwise, they transitioned young.

strandroad

Dale Doback wrote: »

Serious question...

...is a "transgender male" a female who transitioned to male or is it the other way around?

Trans man is a woman to man situation.

noubliezjamais

Honestly, I don't know why people keep ridiculing conspiracies. Don't you think David Icke has a point about this stuff? If most people ask themselves the question, they hardly know any transgender people because in many countries they are an extreme minority, especially in Ireland given it's relatively small population.

Why then is there so much attention on the media. Is there a society changing agenda?

I'm not transphobic as I actually am bisexual and want to get castration (as birth control and have received ostracism from people for that).

One eyed Jack

fryup wrote: »

Well do you? i don't know any (as far as i know)

If so how are they received in your area..are they accepted or looked upon as an oddity?

particularly in rural areas...

Know a handful, they’re generally regarded as harmless, go about their business, sometimes viewed as an oddity but that has more to do with their terrible fashion sense than anything else really - they’re hard to miss in hot pants, fishnet stockings and thigh boots, but once you get used to it, nobody really bats an eye

If she’d stop hanging her bras out on the balcony now that’d be lovely :rolleyes:

Wibbs

noubliezjamais wrote: »

I'm not transphobic as I actually am bisexual and want to get castration (as birth control and have received ostracism from people for that).

Ehh... have you heard of vasectomy? Just a tad less invasive and far far less damaging to the body than castration.

JohnnyFlash

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Honestly, I don't know why people keep ridiculing conspiracies. Don't you think David Icke has a point about this stuff? If most people ask themselves the question, they hardly know any transgender people because in many countries they are an extreme minority, especially in Ireland given it's relatively small population.

Why then is there so much attention on the media. Is there a society changing agenda?

I'm not transphobic as I actually am bisexual and want to get castration (as birth control and have received ostracism from people for that).

You want to have your gonads removed as a form of birth control? Not sure you’ve thought this through to its natural conclusion, dude.

Birneybau

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Honestly, I don't know why people keep ridiculing conspiracies. Don't you think David Icke has a point about this stuff? If most people ask themselves the question, they hardly know any transgender people because in many countries they are an extreme minority, especially in Ireland given it's relatively small population.

Why then is there so much attention on the media. Is there a society changing agenda?

I'm not transphobic as I actually am bisexual and want to get castration (as birth control and have received ostracism from people for that).

You want to have your gonads removed as a form of birth control? Not sure you’ve thought this through to its natural conclusion, dude.

What I would have thought the actions of an extreme minority, as transgender people are referred to in the original post.

zoe 3619

Yes,know a teenager who has transitioned from female to male.
Seems very sure,articulate and imformative.
Don't doubt for a minute that it's a life long choice and has been long coming.
Very brave thing to do at that age and wishing him the best of luck.

Pero_Bueno

Dale Doback wrote: »

Not that I'm aware of.

Serious question...

...is a "transgender male" a female who transitioned to male or is it the other way around?

not sure, I do know the medical term for a woman transitioning to a man is a strapadicktome though.

thecornflake

zoe 3619 wrote: »

Yes,know a teenager who has transitioned from female to male.
Seems very sure,articulate and imformative.
Don't doubt for a minute that it's a life long choice and has been long coming.
Very brave thing to do at that age and wishing him the best of luck.

This is what I assume is a prime example of a transgender person (if I'm honest I don't have much experience in this field, so I'm open to correction).

Anybody who has the intelligence and courage to make a lifelong decision of being honest with themselves and others deserves the utmost of respect and support.

As I said I don't have much experience with transgender people but my perception of it from the general mass is a mixed bag of opinions most likely not helped with attention seeking people (on both sides).

Fair play to your mate for having the courage to be who they are.

Rubberchikken

no. but i couldnt care less what they are. once someone doesnt piss me off i leave well enough alone.

LorelaiG

Yes my cousin is trans. Male to female. I also have another cousin who is gender fluid.

GLaDOS

I know two who are MtF. Ones a close friend, the other was a good friend in college, have kinda drifted apart since, though we try to meet up every so often.

Lot of respect for both for going through such a tough process and for putting up some of the shíte they hear from people.

A very close relative's child is transgender. 5 suicide attempts in the past two months, all of which were in an institution. When the private health insurance limit for in-patient hospitalisation is reached in the next few weeks, the parents are petrified given the fear they lived with on suicide watch each night (before getting up for work the next morning and looking after the other children) prior to their child's hospitalisation.

For the first time they have exhausted the infuriatingly little the health system chooses to give teenagers with mental health difficulties. Consequently, things are much more bleak now than before when they at least had hope. The depth of pain, fear, loneliness and abandonment some people go through cannot be put in words. All across Ireland there are decent, hardworking families enduring something similar. There but for the grace of God go we.

andekwarhola

Don't know any as such as in friends but was out in town with a friend a few years ago and we saw a woman in a bar that looked really familar. We finally twigged it was a guy we went to school with that had presumably transgendered so we said hi and it was him/her and they had. Was good to meet up again.

somefeen

Yep. One of my parents is trans.
And I've met loads when I lived in the UK. You get the odd stereotypical weirdo but seriously the vast majority just want to get on with their lives, dress like any other woman and have lives and identities beyond being transgender.

Subcomandante Marcos

Quite a few. Mostly nice people, one is a twat. Percentage wise that sort of tallies out with the general population in my experience.

Tokyo

I live in SE Asia, so yes, quite a few. Thankfully, it's a lot more open and accepted here in many countries.

mike_ie

mike_ie wrote: »

I live in SE Asia, so yes, quite a few. Thankfully, it's a lot more open and accepted here in many countries.

Same.

Kirby

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Foweva Awone

I've known one, we were in a religious addiction treatment centre together. He was mid-transition from female to male, and looked like a man and went by a male name. However the management in the place refused to recognise his male identity, he was put sharing a bedroom with myself and four other women (which was a little bit uncomfortable for all involved) and was made participate in the female groups etc rather than being placed with the men. I felt sorry for him - his issues with his birth gender were a massive contributor towards his addiction, and here he was being forced to be female-but-not-really-female, like a square peg in a round hole all over again.

cjragoo

Used to talk to one online before they transitioned. Think she is a cam girl in England now!

super_furry

I did. She killed herself.

The Satanist

No, I don't, and I don't want to.

Wanderer78

fryup wrote:

Well do you? i don't know any (as far as i know)

Yup


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biko

I know one - male to female.
We're not close but chat when we meet. She's nice and I wouldn't mind hanging out more.

sbsquarepants

noubliezjamais wrote: »

I'm not transphobic as I actually am bisexual and want to get castration (as birth control and have received ostracism from people for that).

This has got to be one of the most bizzare things I have ever read.

It's not like birth control is particularly difficult ffs.

Any way, I have to dash - I'm off to book a decapitation, I believe it's a great cure for headaches!


Also - no, I don't know anyone transgender.

Lollipops23

A female friend of mine was in a relationship with a transitioning woman (mtf). I met the two of them out and about before and my friend's partner was still in the early stages of the process (dressing and presenting as female, not started hormones etc yet). Can only imagine the hassle they must have gotten in day to day, as she looked less feminine than Panti Bliss.

I hope she's doing ok these days.

SlowBlowin

Hi

I employed 2 trans people. One was a young lad directly out of school, then another a few years later who was a friend of of the first lad. After a number of years they both transitioned to female.

When I employed them I though they were both young men, no idea they had different ideas.

TBH it made my life, running the business, a living nightmare. Both were customer facing, and I had to deal with endless situations which required tightrope diplomacy, something I am not good at. Some issues were internal, like the women in the office, none of whom wanted their toilet shared with staff they previously knew as men. Other issues came from customers, I remember when one of them had just started voice coaching (Govt funded) to sound feminine, he would start off telephone conversations with customers as a lady, and gradually change to full masculine at the end. This used to confuse the feck out of customers who didn't know who they were speaking to.

I also had to deal with my friends, who used to make my life even more difficult by making fun of my staff...

I have strong opinions on the transgender surge, but I rarely voice them as I find, in general, the trans community to be extremist, illogical, and pretty ruthless in their on line attacks.

suicide_circus

i work with one mtf colleague. honestly i'll be surprised if she dosnt end up the subject of a tribunal in years to come.

seamus

Only ever known one that I'm aware of.

Guy joined the company I was with. Small guy with a raspy voice, but just another guy. Casually dropped in mention of his "husband" during a conversation - this was before the referendum - so I assumed he'd gotten married somewhere that wasn't behind the times. Whatevs.

Much much later he sent me an email from his personal address, which was a woman's name. I knew he wasn't married to a woman, so I was a bit confused, but didn't really think much of it.

Shortly after that someone mentioned that he was trans, and all the bits fell into place.

Nice guy, very good at what he does, and good fun too.


There was a relatively infamous trans woman here on boards, long, long before it was ever close to acceptable in the mainstream. Poor girl got a lot of abuse which is a deep black mark on boards' history. But she didn't really do herself many favours either. She was exceptionally combative and hostile, even to people trying to support her. Notorious for the same attitude around her college campus too.

I think it's understandable though tbh. Trans women get the worst treatment from bigots. People who will deny their right to exist, to their faces, accuse them of all sorts of sexual crimes and deviancy, and otherwise treat them like subhuman scum. So it's very understandable that many transwomen will be angry and hostile by default when it comes to "normal" people commenting on them. Trans men by contrast, don't get it easy, but they fly under the radar much more readily.

There's not an entire cohort of people desperate to "out" trans men, ban them from public spaces or accuse them of being perverts and paedophiles. You'll rarely see the question asked online, "What if the man you were dating turned out to be trans?". But you'll often hear the opposite question.

Because men aren't terrified that the guy they're having a laugh with might have been a woman. But they are terrified that the woman they're eying up at the bar may have had a penis.

There's probably also a certain level of "gender culture" stuff going on. Women are to a certain extent raised to be wilting violets. To accept their lot and work around it. Men are not. Men are raised to break down barriers and be strong. So when a trans man sees discrimination, he accepts it to a certain extent, it's just something else on top of the rest.
A transwoman is not used to discrimination barriers. And when someone puts them in front of her, her default instinct is to break it down rather than go around it. So they tend, as far as I can see, to find themselves engaged in far more hostile social interactions, than trans men do.

Igotadose

Have known several, one quite well, a coworker, married, 2 children, absolute horn-dog at work chasing and commenting on every single female around. Somewhat out of the blue, he transitioned to female about 4 years ago and is, as far as I know, still in close contact with his wife and children. Very active in the trans community too. Still, I couldn't have been more surprised when the transition started.

Other trans people I've known included the wife's niece who transitioned to male recently - as a female she was an outstanding athlete, now living as a man. Plus a few coworkers who were low-key about it

King of Kings

seamus wrote: »

There was a relatively infamous trans woman here on boards, long, long before it was ever close to acceptable in the mainstream. Poor girl got a lot of abuse which is a deep black mark on boards' history. But she didn't really do herself many favours either. She was exceptionally combative and hostile, even to people trying to support her. Notorious for the same attitude around her college campus too.

A black stain?? ..GTFO

That poster was unpleasant in the extreme who was intransigent in their views and attacked anybody who didnt goosestep behind their campaign.

Actually blew a great chance to sell their circumstance to a wide audience. But didnt went the combative route and alienated most of their audience.

I've no sympathy for the grief they got.

seamus

King of Kings wrote: »

That poster was unpleasant in the extreme who was intransigent in their views and attacked anybody who didnt goosestep behind their campaign.

Actually blew a great chance to sell their circumstance to a wide audience. But didnt went the combative route and alienated most of their audience.

I don't disagree that she was unpleasant. But every trans person is not obliged to be an ambassador or representative for their "cause", any more than every straight man is a representative for the other ~3 billion of us.

The abuse she received for being trans was unwarranted and allowed to go on for far too long. By all means give her hell for being a fvcking asshole, but the transphobic abuse is something else entirely.

Imagine a thread about Bill Cosby that was nothing but wall-to-wall racism. He's an asshole. But it doesn't make racism OK.

B0jangles

I know a couple of people who are trans, both are nice, interesting people, both are involved in trans activism because there is still so much ignorance and stigma around being trans.

Kimbot

Pero_Bueno wrote: »

not sure, I do know the medical term for a woman transitioning to a man is a strapadicktome though.

MOD Anyone trying to be funny like this will receive a BAN!!

Bannasidhe

Several.
Some are sound.
Some aren't.

Knew most of them before they transitioned. The sound one's were sound then, the others weren't.
I find being sound is a human thing not a gender thing.

I could do without the woman who chats endlessly to me about make-up. I understand that this is very exciting for her and she is learning a whole new way to be in the world. But I'm a dyky kinda dyke - I know f all about make-up and care even less. Please stop talking to me about make-up

Tikki Wang Wang

noubliezjamais wrote: »

Honestly, I don't know why people keep ridiculing conspiracies. Don't you think David Icke has a point about this stuff? If most people ask themselves the question, they hardly know any transgender people because in many countries they are an extreme minority, especially in Ireland given it's relatively small population.

Why then is there so much attention on the media. Is there a society changing agenda?

I'm not transphobic as I actually am bisexual and want to get castration (as birth control and have received ostracism from people for that).

Castration is a solution to many problems. Imagine getting kicked hard in the balls and it having no effect ! Eat your heart out Iron Balls McGinty !

Berserker

One of my OH's best friends is. Is female now, was male at birth. Dead sound. Says that she still believes that being transgender is an issue when it comes to finding work in her chosen field. Is well received and has had no major issues apart from that. Oh, guys run a mile when they find out she's trans. How would the single guys on here react if they met a girl and they found out she was trans, as a matter of interest?

A relative of mine transitioned from female to male.
Then few years later, decided to change back again.

Berserker

bubblypop wrote: »

A relative of mine transitioned from female to male.
Then few years later, decided to change back again.

Did that person transition fully both times?