How long before Irish reunification?

FrancieBrady

facehugger99 wrote: »

The supporters of SF/IRA have actively tried to subvert the Republic through their existence.

Their hateful ideology represents a threat to out democratic freedoms and should be every true republican i.e those who believe in republican form of government as opposed to those who will justify the murder innocents in pursuit of a pan-nationalist goal.

Another classic example of the lazy partitionist mindset. Did you ever stop to wonder where and how you got your 'democratic freedoms'?

Nobody, justifies the murder of 'innocents'.

Stop moaning ffs

10-15 years

facehugger99 wrote: »

The supporters of SF/IRA have actively tried to subvert the Republic through their existence.

Their hateful ideology represents a threat to out democratic freedoms and should be opposed by every true republican i.e those who believe in republican form of government as opposed to those who will justify the murder of innocents in pursuit of a pan-nationalist goal.

They majority of people in the country are in favour of a United ireland.
Are you saying they’re all supporting a terrorist idealogy?

You do know the troubles are over and we have an all island peace now?
Desperately clinging on to the past when it suits you there hugger.

The rest of us, in fact the majority of people on the island, have moved on.
You should catch up

facehugger99

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Another classic example of the lazy partitionist mindset. Did you ever stop to wonder where and how you got your 'democratic freedoms'?

Nobody, justifies the murder of 'innocents'.

You've got nothing today have you?

Lazy-labeling, attempted insults, gobbledygook nonsense.


The thin veneer of reasonableness that you desperately try so hard to project, has been striped away to reveal the ugly truth of an extremest, willing to sacrifice the economic prosperity of everyone else, in the pursuit of their own pan-nationalist goals.

FrancieBrady

facehugger99 wrote: »

You've got nothing today have you?

Lazy-labeling, attempted insults, gobbledygook nonsense.


The thin veneer of reasonableness that you desperately try so hard to project, has been striped away to reveal the ugly truth of an extremest, willing to sacrifice the economic prosperity of everyone else, in the pursuit of their own pan-nationalist goals.

This is gas.

facehugger99

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

They majority of people in the country are in favour of a United ireland.

37% say they'll pay for it.

That's not a majority - in fact I'd wager less that 25% would actually vote for it, those that pay for fcuk all anyway most likely.

RobMc59

10-15 years

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

They majority of people in the country are in favour of a United ireland.
Are you saying they’re all supporting a terrorist idealogy?

You do know the troubles are over and we have an all island peace now?
Desperately clinging on to the past when it suits you there hugger.

The rest of us, in fact the majority of people on the island, have moved on.
You should catch up

The majority of people maybe in favour of a UI but probably not at any cost and certainly not to the detriment of their country.

Stop moaning ffs

10-15 years

facehugger99 wrote: »

37% say they'll pay for it.

That's not a majority - in fact I'd wager less that 25% would actually vote for it, those that pay for fcuk all anyway most likely.

Here’s hugger with his imaginary poll results again


One more time

Can you please show us a link to this poll??

You re entitled to your own opinion.

You aren’t entitled to your own imaginary facts I’m afraid

FrancieBrady

facehugger99 wrote: »

37% say they'll pay for it.

That's not a majority - in fact I'd wager less that 25% would actually vote for it, those that pay for fcuk all anyway most likely.

How many of that 37% know what the cost will be? How many of them realise that the north and partition have cost us untold amounts of money already and is about to cost us again?
How many of them realise that partition will continue to cause cyclical problems of varying degree as long as it pertains?

RoyalCelt

Ulster Says No. It will never happen

Happy 12th everybody!

FrancieBrady

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Here’s hugger with his imaginary poll results again


One more time

Can you please show us a link to this poll??

You re entitled to your own opinion.

You aren’t entitled to your own imaginary facts I’m afraid

The poll does exist, but when it was finally posted by FH, he was rather embarrassed by his 'massive majority' 'falling of a cliff' claims as it showed 37% in favour of a tax and 37% against paying a tax, with 26% undecided.

There was no indication how informed or uninformed the polling sample was.

markodaly

In a United Ireland, the 12th of July would be a national holiday of sorts.
Every Irish person loves a public holiday and a day in the pub.

Stop moaning ffs

10-15 years

markodaly wrote: »

In a United Ireland, the 12th of July would be a national holiday of sorts.
Every Irish person loves a public holiday and a day in the pub.

If it means an extra bank holiday I’m in

Charles Babbage

blanch152 wrote: »

People can keep saying this but the falling vote for nationalist parties in the North is a fact that begs to differ.

It is the declining number of unionists that
is of interest, The middle ground voters will look at the situation when it comes. Certainly a no deal Brexit would strongly influence these people.

Dyr

If it's a national holiday I'll gladly march around in me sash, sideburns and 70s shades, looks like great craic. Sure f**k it we can extend Pride out a week or so and combine them

branie2

10-15 years

Bambi wrote: »

If it's a national holiday I'll gladly march around in me sash, sideburns and 70s shades, looks like great craic. Sure f**k it we can extend Pride out a week or so and combine them

The DUP would be shocked

James Brown

10-15 years

facehugger99 wrote: »

No, it’s very different up there, you should spend some time there yourself as you’ve obviously no clue what you’re talking about.

Very different culture. Most of them don’t consider themselves Irish.

You’ve no clue at all.

Half my family are from Belfast hugs. I'd relatives down in may. You seem to be the one making assumptions.
All of them know they are Irish, be it Irish under U.K. rule. it's Northern Ireland after all. It's in the name ffs. A shrinking minority would deny it, like climate change.

James Brown

10-15 years

RobMc59 wrote: »

You and others constantly refer back to incidents hundreds of years ago,the cruel deeds done by the British and Protestants and you judge people and Countries by this-what of the up to ten thousand Protestant men,women and children who were slaughtered in 1641 by catholics?I would`nt class Irish Catholics today the same as those murderers who tore babies from their mothers and cruelly snuffed out their lives and I don`t think anyone with a Unionist point of view on here does either-you want to try it instead of constantly moaning on about events that happened when the world was a different place.

Like your revisionist colleagues, don't re-write the thread. The point which you seem to be inadvertently agreeing with is the unionists have no reason to fear a UI IMO. However I can see they, specifically the DUP, may fear being treated like they treated/treat Catholics, gays etc.
You've come a long way from casual English poster who has a few questions on the north Rob

James Brown

10-15 years

FrancieBrady wrote: »

:D:D:D Why did I not bet on that limp answer?

A Fenian with two pints told him

Stop moaning ffs

10-15 years

Those that should read this won’t but have a look anyways

https://twitter.com/davidmcw/status/1132207766477725701?s=20

facehugger99

Matt Barrett wrote: »

However I can see they, specifically the DUP, may fear being treated like they treated/treat Catholics, gays etc.

You post this a lot, practically salivating at the prospect of it.

It must be a great frustration that the little revenge-porn fantasies you have for the Unionists will never be realised.

FrancieBrady

facehugger99 wrote: »

You post this a lot, practically salivating at the prospect of it.

It must be a great frustration that the little revenge-porn fantasies you have for the Unionists will never be realised.

This is also a gas reaction. I think you may need to re-read that post. Jesus!

James Brown

10-15 years

facehugger99 wrote: »

You post this a lot, practically salivating at the prospect of it.

It must be a great frustration that the little revenge-porn fantasies you have for the Unionists will never be realised.

You've got mental issues if you read that into it pal.
Why do you think Unionists/DUP might be reluctant to be in a united Ireland? Have you anything to add or have you given up the ghost on discussion?
I would love a united Ireland, like the south were religion plays little role and less by the year. You seem to have a hate on for that wish, which is your right, after all many fought and died to get you your vote.

s7ryf3925pivug

well they'll have to quit those bonfires for a start if they want in.

No option for the republic saying no, but I don't see how it would benefit us outside of fulfilling some nationalist sentiment for some.

facehugger99

Khalil Millions Steak wrote: »

No option for the republic saying no,

Of course there is.

facehugger99

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Why do you think Unionists/DUP might be reluctant to be in a united Ireland?

Couldn't care less TBH.

Not my concern.

James Brown

10-15 years

facehugger99 wrote: »

Of course there is.

Now you're in fantasy land. No party or known politician will advocate for a 'no'. Any referendum will put the gay rights campaign in the shade.
What'll it be, "Vote no, because what's in it for me?" "Vote no, we need another quango", "Vote no, uncle Dinny needs new shoes"?

FrancieBrady

Khalil Millions Steak wrote: »

well they'll have to quit those bonfires for a start if they want in.

The need to triumphalise is actually dying out/declining Khalil Millions Steak. And that process would accelerate in a UI.

The OO has hemorrhaged membership all the way through the conflict/war falling from 76,000 in 1948 to just over 30,000 today.
Moderate unionism is actually the norm but it is often drowned out by the noise from the DUP and other belligerents like the TUV.

facehugger99

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Now you're in fantasy land. No party or known politician will advocate for a 'no'.

Gosh, if only we had some examples in this country, of referendums being rejected despite being supported by all the main political parties :pac:


Are you a good little Sheeple that does what the big men in Dail Eireann tell you to do?

facehugger99

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The need to triumphalise is actually dying out/declining blergh. And that process would accelerate in a UI.

Meanwhile, in the world of reality....

James Brown

10-15 years

facehugger99 wrote: »

Gosh, if only we had some examples in this country, of referendums being rejected despite being supported by all the main political parties :pac:


Are you a good little Sheeple that does what the big men in Dail Eireann tell you to do?

It's about reading the room not being told.
I know politicians aren't always the brightest but advocating for a 'no' would be career suicide because 'yes' will be a landslide.