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Honda X-ADV

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  • 24-04-2019 6:36am
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    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭


    What's your thoughts on the Honda X-ADV?
    Is it a bike or scooter or a bit of both?

    Same 750cc engine that's in the nc750x and all the other NC bikes.

    Only comes in DCT which I like anyway.

    It should keep up with most machines on the twisties, well apart from the 200bhp super bikes.



    Honda-XADV-1-630x420.jpgwhere is the closest petrol station

    I think it's cool. Maybe in a few years when they are cheaper but not at around 8k


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  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Banzai600


    just bumping this thread....



    has anyone here got one of these XADV bikes ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    What a mad concept. Surprised it made it into production. What is it, an adv maxi scoot on stilts!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Banzai600


    its a 750 DCT engine from the honda NC 700/750 series of bikes.

    theyre a big enough yoke, i just want to size one up if i can, as they are very pricey and not that many sold here, never seen one and im on the road 24/7.

    they prob better than a maxi scoot considering the prices of maxi scoots like the tmax - stupid money.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,957 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    47 for sale in the UK. I wouldnt imagine many if any sold here. Price is tasty.
    https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bikes/motorcycles/honda/x-adv


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Banzai600


    yeah was looking, that'll be where im going if i can get one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Whats the draw for you Banzai?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Renato Zocchi won the Gibraltar rally on one of them last year, Ohlins suspension and the DCT transmission, I'd say they are a very capable bike.
    https://advrider.com/what-honda-x-adv-scooter-wins-2019-gibraltar-rally/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Wow who'd have thunk it, a step through places first in class two Gibraltar rally!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    H_Lime wrote: »
    Wow who'd have thunk it, a step through places first in class two Gibraltar rally!

    They aren't really a step thru more step over.:D
    I had a look at one in Lee MC and I did think it was pretty capable looking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    They aren't really a step thru more step over.:D
    I had a look at one in Lee MC and I did think it was pretty capable looking.
    Yeah but you do understand every biker buddy will call it a step through:eek:: :)
    I'll wait till the hip replacement.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭airhead_eire


    Oi ! What's wrong with step thru's ?!

    49592026766_99abcc6059_b.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    Oi ! What's wrong with step thru's ?!

    49592026766_99abcc6059_b.jpg
    :) absolutely nothing while they ain't pretending to be something else:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭Colm17RvB


    Some lad had one outside Bikeworld a few months ago, he wouldn't let me take it for a spin :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    My 750 DCT is just shy of 90,000 kilometers. Not one ounce of trouble so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    H_Lime wrote: »
    What a mad concept. Surprised it made it into production. What is it, an adv maxi scoot on stilts!?


    As the chassis is modular to the NC, Integra etc, it only involved faffing about with the peripherals: didn't cost Honda a huge amount to create this variant. It's a good idea.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    galwaytt wrote: »
    As the chassis is modular to the NC, Integra etc, it only involved faffing about with the peripherals: didn't cost Honda a huge amount to create this variant. It's a good idea.
    Hey if it's comfy and reliable I got no quibbles with it. Well I do if it ain't got manual gear change but I'm just old fashioned like that.
    I could be crying out for one in 30 yrs:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    H_Lime wrote: »
    Hey if it's comfy and reliable I got no quibbles with it. Well I do if it ain't got manual gear change but I'm just old fashioned like that.
    I could be crying out for one in 30 yrs:)

    my left hand cried foul already, so bought an Africa Twin with DCT - you'd love it, believe me.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭airhead_eire


    I wish DCT was a thing when I had my old Z1300.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭two wheels good


    Curious to see photos without the plastics. Couldn't find any online.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    galwaytt wrote: »
    my left hand cried foul already, so bought an Africa Twin with DCT - you'd love it, believe me.

    I won't finance bikes and can't afford one new, so the only way I'll ever own one of them (and I perhaps would) is second hand. But the though of a DCT trans issue scares the crap out of me as a potential non warrenty owner.
    I'll stick with my venerable 17yo caponord for the time being. I've ironed out it's many foibles and is a great performer that owes me nothing.
    Put up a pic of the @ to lure me:)
    Why do you like having an auto? What's the appeal in using one other than in traffic?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    Ya love the concept of the x-Adv 750 , I am looking at the moment, uk obviously,
    Just shy of 13k here. New tweeks for 2020 model ,so maybe some bargains later in the year on the earlier model. The first one that came out in 2017 did not have modes drive, sport and off,


  • Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Banzai600


    the bike from the start when launched had rider modes. small updates in 2018 with G-MODE and some more revs, revised slightly electronics.

    but be aware some of the early models from 2017 to Oct 2018 had limp mode issues - the bike would cut out when the chip in the ECU ran too hot - happening toi ppl stuck in traffic, there was a recall in the UK so check it was done - but didnt affect every bike....

    https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2018/december/honda-x-adv-recall/

    you can check here, but you need the VIN
    https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/my-bike/maintenance/recalls-and-updates.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    Honda X-ADV updates for 2018
    The X-ADV has undergone changes for 2018 largely centered around electronics and rider aids. The latest model features Honda Selectable Torque Control (HSTC) which is Honda’s torque/traction control.
    There are two settings to choose from with default level two designed for road use, and with level one designed for off-road use and allows the rear wheel to spin more. You can also easily switch the torque/traction control off completely.
    The 2018 version’s engine has also been given a 900rpm boost with the redline now at 7,500rpm meaning there are more revs to play with in each gear.
    There is also a G (Gravel) button designed for off-road riding that gives additional engine braking, especially useful when going down hill off-road. It is the same system used on the Honda Africa Twin DCT models.

    This is taken from MCN review of the bike.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11 Claud 14.7 to 1


    Looks good. Fancied one of these big scooter type bikes for a while now as it's simple twist and go but with decent power. Very practical and far easier than clutch, change, clutch, change etc., especially good for town and single carriageway work. Should also be good for motorway work also but sometimes these big scooters are not really great for motorway work, so that would be the only thing I would look out for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    clutch, change, clutch, change etc.,


    You're doing it wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    H_Lime wrote: »
    I won't finance bikes and can't afford one new, so the only way I'll ever own one of them (and I perhaps would) is second hand. But the though of a DCT trans issue scares the crap out of me as a potential non warrenty owner.
    I'll stick with my venerable 17yo caponord for the time being. I've ironed out it's many foibles and is a great performer that owes me nothing.
    Put up a pic of the @ to lure me:)
    Why do you like having an auto? What's the appeal in using one other than in traffic?

    I think you have more to worry about with a Capo than I'll ever have with DCT ! :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    The DCT box is a traditional 6-speed box: it's the clutch that's the fancy part.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,776 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    H_Lime wrote: »
    I won't finance bikes and can't afford one new, so the only way I'll ever own one of them (and I perhaps would) is second hand. But the though of a DCT trans issue scares the crap out of me as a potential non warrenty owner.
    I'll stick with my venerable 17yo caponord for the time being. I've ironed out it's many foibles and is a great performer that owes me nothing.
    Put up a pic of the @ to lure me:)
    Why do you like having an auto? What's the appeal in using one other than in traffic?


    First off, my left hand was killing me with arthritis and other issues, and I do a lot of low speed riding, including on my H-D. ( I can hear the jokes already, lol....)

    Surgery is not viable, so I needed to relieve it, and I have an old (dead) Aprilia 500 scooter, so the concept of a 'big bike' without clutch is not alien to me. And, after 12 yrs on the H-D, I wanted to try something else - and auto it had to be. I tried an FJR and didn't like that - it's neither one thing nor the other imho, and if I'm spending that much, I though I'd go for the best. DCT it was to be, and I was open to which bike tbh, but eventually settled on the AT as they're eminently saleable, whereas the Crosstourer might not be, later....

    So, I went to the NEC bike show and test rode one. I never had any doubt that out on the open road it would work: but I really wanted to know could you go slow on it: like trials riding, filtering, etc. That test ride proved to me it could, and well.

    So I got one :eek:

    504790.png

    It's uncanny how clever it is. It does not 'creep' in gear, with hands off the controls or brakes. In 'D' it just sits there. Give it the whiff of throttle and you can feel the (conventional) clutch bite and off she goes, at walking pace or less, if you like. It has full drive response and engine braking, just like a 'manual' bike - the 'box is a std 6-speed bike box as you're used to.

    Up and down changes are better than any autoshifter/blipper you've ever tried: it's uncannily smooth. I have a Renault car with the same tech, and VW/Audi call theirs DSG. Invented by Porsche/Audi back in the '80's for motorsport.

    In normal road use and even fast road use, it's better at gearchanges then (we) are, so you just ride better. It blips the throttle between downchanges in Sports mode - and hangs on longer on the upshift in Sports mode too

    Other cool thing is, if off road........you can't stall it.

    I'd actually struggle to ever to back to manual now tbh

    Any more questions, fire away.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,721 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    galwaytt wrote: »
    I think you have more to worry about with a Capo than I'll ever have with DCT ! :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    The DCT box is a traditional 6-speed box: it's the clutch that's the fancy part.
    Not my one in her defence lol, shes whipped into reliability and if ridden in anger would show the @ a clean pair of heels on tar I'd say.
    A standard capo?... ehh yep, its a bit of a different proposition alright, no argument there:pac::eek:
    galwaytt wrote: »
    First off, my left hand was killing me with arthritis and other issues, and I do a lot of low speed riding, including on my H-D. ( I can hear the jokes already, lol....)

    Surgery is not viable, so I needed to relieve it, and I have an old (dead) Aprilia 500 scooter, so the concept of a 'big bike' without clutch is not alien to me. And, after 12 yrs on the H-D, I wanted to try something else - and auto it had to be. I tried an FJR and didn't like that - it's neither one thing nor the other imho, and if I'm spending that much, I though I'd go for the best. DCT it was to be, and I was open to which bike tbh, but eventually settled on the AT as they're eminently saleable, whereas the Crosstourer might not be, later....

    So, I went to the NEC bike show and test rode one. I never had any doubt that out on the open road it would work: but I really wanted to know could you go slow on it: like trials riding, filtering, etc. That test ride proved to me it could, and well.

    So I got one :eek:

    504790.png

    It's uncanny how clever it is. It does not 'creep' in gear, with hands off the controls or brakes. In 'D' it just sits there. Give it the whiff of throttle and you can feel the (conventional) clutch bite and off she goes, at walking pace or less, if you like. It has full drive response and engine braking, just like a 'manual' bike - the 'box is a std 6-speed bike box as you're used to.

    Up and down changes are better than any autoshifter/blipper you've ever tried: it's uncannily smooth. I have a Renault car with the same tech, and VW/Audi call theirs DSG. Invented by Porsche/Audi back in the '80's for motorsport.

    In normal road use and even fast road use, it's better at gearchanges then (we) are, so you just ride better. It blips the throttle between downchanges in Sports mode - and hangs on longer on the upshift in Sports mode too

    Other cool thing is, if off road........you can't stall it.

    I'd actually struggle to ever to back to manual now tbh

    Any more questions, fire away.

    Very sweet machine, must blag a go of one off a dealer at some stage. If I had the monzo to buy one outright without it pinching the wallet I'd be tempted.

    Read what you wrote a couple times there and tbh it's just so alien a concept it seems a solution looking for a problem that ain't there.
    In saying that, if I were to ride it that last sentence might be moot. You don't seem prone to confirmation bias based on other bikes not meeting your requirements. Lot of lads swear by whatever bike they currently own.... because they currently own it.

    Yeah I'd have to try one to see as at the mo I just don't get it but I accept that may just be because I haven't tried it.

    Is there additional specialist servicing for the clutch and associated works? Do the dct give grief and is software an issue with them? I suppose its these issues which scare me.
    What's the wind protection like? Are you sat on or in it?
    Frontal area looks similar to my old ktm 990 adventure which didn't compare to the old bus for protection.


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    galwaytt wrote: »
    First off, my left hand was killing me with arthritis and other issues, and I do a lot of low speed riding, including on my H-D. ( I can hear the jokes already, lol....)

    Surgery is not viable, so I needed to relieve it, and I have an old (dead) Aprilia 500 scooter, so the concept of a 'big bike' without clutch is not alien to me. And, after 12 yrs on the H-D, I wanted to try something else - and auto it had to be. I tried an FJR and didn't like that - it's neither one thing nor the other imho, and if I'm spending that much, I though I'd go for the best. DCT it was to be, and I was open to which bike tbh, but eventually settled on the AT as they're eminently saleable, whereas the Crosstourer might not be, later....

    So, I went to the NEC bike show and test rode one. I never had any doubt that out on the open road it would work: but I really wanted to know could you go slow on it: like trials riding, filtering, etc. That test ride proved to me it could, and well.

    So I got one :eek:

    504790.png

    It's uncanny how clever it is. It does not 'creep' in gear, with hands off the controls or brakes. In 'D' it just sits there. Give it the whiff of throttle and you can feel the (conventional) clutch bite and off she goes, at walking pace or less, if you like. It has full drive response and engine braking, just like a 'manual' bike - the 'box is a std 6-speed bike box as you're used to.

    Up and down changes are better than any autoshifter/blipper you've ever tried: it's uncannily smooth. I have a Renault car with the same tech, and VW/Audi call theirs DSG. Invented by Porsche/Audi back in the '80's for motorsport.

    In normal road use and even fast road use, it's better at gearchanges then (we) are, so you just ride better. It blips the throttle between downchanges in Sports mode - and hangs on longer on the upshift in Sports mode too

    Other cool thing is, if off road........you can't stall it.

    I'd actually struggle to ever to back to manual now tbh

    Any more questions, fire away.

    @galwaytt , Thanks for posting ,that is a beauty, I even like the colour.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭Fireblade77


    I wonder is this the same colour,


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