Dash cam videos thread 3.4 (embedded car dash-cams only)

Cabaal · 04-05-2021 8:34am

This overtake was far closer then it seems in the video, he was about 2 feet away from hitting our car.
He overtook between 2-3 cars on the hatch markings so it wasn't a legal overtake..outside of him nearly hitting me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUs1XzYtefs

RosieJoe · 04-05-2021 3:55pm

Cabaal wrote: »

This overtake was far closer then it seems in the video, he was about 2 feet away from hitting our car.
He overtook between 2-3 cars on the hatch markings so it wasn't a legal overtake..outside of him nearly hitting me

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Not hatch markings he crossed, solid line for you with broken for them means you are not allowed to overtake but they were once it was safe to do so.

Mind you, slight bend and brow should mean no overtaking on either side.

04-05-2021 5:21pm

Yeah, not to say the driver was in any way right, but that’s extremely badly marked.

Cabaal · 05-05-2021 9:10am

RosieJoe wrote: »

Not hatch markings he crossed, solid line for you with broken for them means you are not allowed to overtake but they were once it was safe to do so.

Mind you, slight bend and brow should mean no overtaking on either side.

They started overtaking prior to the broken line though,
Anyway regardless, he's had a visit and points for his troubles

josip · 05-05-2021 9:38am

Cabaal wrote: »

They started overtaking prior to the broken line though,
Anyway regardless, he's had a visit and points for his troubles

How does the points bit work?
I know the guards can suggest paying a visit to 'have a word', but I thought that any stronger action would require a case to be brought and you to appear in court to witness your vid?

Hurrache · 05-05-2021 11:18am

Only if the driver wants to contest it, otherwise there's no need to go as a witness.

Isambard · 05-05-2021 12:30pm

there's dangerous driving and then there's people making errors. I think this was just a misjudged overtake, seems to me it started more or less at the start of the broken line.

bladespin · 05-05-2021 12:33pm

Isambard wrote: »

there's dangerous driving and then there's people making errors. I think this was just a misjudged overtake, seems to me it started more or less at the start of the broken line.

I think that's just plain dangerous, no problem with the lines or overtaking more than one other vehicle etc but the combination and on a curve/bend - it's borderline mistake/insanity.

chooseusername · 05-05-2021 3:58pm

Here's the road going North in 2009 ,only one solid white line.
O.P was just about at the point where the two signs are up ahead
travelling south.

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.5758157,-7.3290424,3a,75y,55.76h,85.55t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s6_8ZNq9bv1CvGuDF3pMKWA!2e0!5s20090401T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Some roadworks done in the meantime , but a broken line there
is stupid.

frozenfrozen · 05-05-2021 6:05pm

the markings are there could be fine. That road could handle a safe overtake there of a tractor or cyclist or a car

the guy went and overtook maybe 6 bunched up cars at the same time with no options in between them to abort. You can't judge road markings by stuff like that. He didn't have the view for a 6 car overtake.

broken lines are to allow you to cross into that lane not a license to overtake no matter what

Tij da feen · 05-05-2021 6:08pm

Another one today. Young fella with L-Plates taking a corner too fast - had I been a few yards down the road I think I'd be dealing with a headache of an insurance claim.

Is it worthwhile reporting this - clearly doesn't have the driving skills they think they have.

fritzelly · 05-05-2021 6:11pm

Tij da feen wrote: »

Is it worthwhile reporting this - clearly doesn't have the driving skills they think they have.

Not at all - barely a driver who hasn't taken a corner too fast at one point

Tij da feen · 05-05-2021 6:17pm

fritzelly wrote: »

Not at all - barely a driver who hasn't taken a corner too fast at one point

Fair enough point. Probably would of chalked it down to accidental rather than inexperience had I not seen the L-plates up on the car.

05-05-2021 7:44pm

fritzelly wrote: »

Not at all - barely a driver who hasn't taken a corner too fast at one point

Yeah, one thing is for certain, a fright like that will remind the learner to respect the dynamics of cornering. They are unlikely to make that mistake again in a hurry.

micar · 05-05-2021 9:01pm

Tij da feen wrote: »

Is it worthwhile reporting this - clearly doesn't have the driving skills they think they have.

fritzelly wrote: »

Not at all - barely a driver who hasn't taken a corner too fast at one point

I'd report that.

If this person is the learner driver, then they were driving alone which it illegal and which makes their insurance policy null and void....effectively driving uninsured

That is why a learner driver needs to have an experienced driver with them to give a bit of advice here and there.

iwillhtfu · 05-05-2021 9:04pm

micar wrote: »

If this person is the learner driver, then they were driving alone which it illegal and which makes their insurance policy null and void.

That's not entirely correct but that's for another thread. Without knowing the road which looks like a backroad it may well just have been badly signposted and misjudged.

bladespin · 07-05-2021 3:50pm

micar wrote: »

If this person is the learner driver, then they were driving alone which it illegal and which makes their insurance policy null and void....effectively driving uninsured

It doesn't and they're not.

Muppet Man · 07-05-2021 4:26pm

micar wrote: »

That is why a learner driver needs to have an experienced driver with them to give a bit of advice here and there.

TBH, even with an experienced driver beside you this sort of thing will still happen.

Lesson well learned on this one, for everyone in that car.

Isambard · 08-05-2021 9:04am

bladespin wrote: »

It doesn't and they're not.

this is an old chestnut. If the terms of the Policy have been breeched, The Policy is not covering the use of the vehicle, effectively void, although the Insurance Company are obliged to cover third party losses which they may choose to pursue the policyholder for. In such a circumstance, the driver is driving uninsured.

micar · 08-05-2021 9:53am

bladespin wrote: »

It doesn't and they're not.

Isambard wrote: »

this is an old chestnut. If the terms of the Policy have been breeched, The Policy is not covering the use of the vehicle, effectively void, although the Insurance Company are obliged to cover third party losses which they may choose to pursue the policyholder for. In such a circumstance, the driver is driving uninsured.

This is from a court case last year

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/court-rules-on-case-with-implications-for-unaccompanied-learners-1.4316797

"the relevant insurer had advised, if there was a loss to a third party arising from the driving of the accused, the insurer would compensate the third party but seek to recover the cost of that from the accused."

The accused ends up forking out regardless.

So, moral of story......a learner driver should not drive without someone who holds a full licence for a minimum of 2 years.

liamog · 08-05-2021 3:32pm

Could you imagine if an insurance company tried to claim the driver was doing 121km/h in a 120km/h zone therefore our insurance doesn't apply, there would be uproar.

TK Lemon · 09-05-2021 11:23pm

I saw a child standing up in a trailer, hitched onto a car today. I have crystal clear dash cam footage showing the land cruiser, the trailer and the child with the reg clearly visible.

Should I report to the Gardai?

Damien360 · 09-05-2021 11:26pm

TK Lemon wrote: »

I saw a child standing up in a trailer, hitched onto a car today. I have crystal clear dash cam footage showing the land cruiser, the trailer and the child with the reg clearly visible.

Should I report to the Gardai?

Stick it up here and we can all join in quoting the horror of the event and your likely blame in all of this. ‘Tis par for the course in here.

Wouldn’t bother reporting because nothing will be done.

punisher5112 · 10-05-2021 11:12am

TK Lemon wrote: »

I saw a child standing up in a trailer, hitched onto a car today. I have crystal clear dash cam footage showing the land cruiser, the trailer and the child with the reg clearly visible.

Should I report to the Gardai?

We use to do this year's ago, I know times have changed a lot, back of tractors, on top of bails or turf etc.... Was great fun but of course a risk.

Any time though they didn't drive fast at all and was mostly off road and back roads you couldn't go fast on anyway.

Was the land cruiser going fast?
If yes then definitely needs a talking to.

bladespin · 10-05-2021 2:08pm

micar wrote: »

This is from a court case last year

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/court-rules-on-case-with-implications-for-unaccompanied-learners-1.4316797

"the relevant insurer had advised, if there was a loss to a third party arising from the driving of the accused, the insurer would compensate the third party but seek to recover the cost of that from the accused."

The accused ends up forking out regardless.

So, moral of story......a learner driver should not drive without someone who holds a full licence for a minimum of 2 years.

Not disagreeing for a second but the fact is they are still insured and in the event the insurance company may be entitled but is extremely unlikely to go after the driver, it simply wouldn't be worth it in most cases - you would be rightly effed though when it came time to renew.

biko · 10-05-2021 2:38pm

Dash cam videos thread 3.4 (embedded car dash-cams only)

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