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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)
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If you are not too fussy, there are dealsto be had.
Moon watch fans tend to be fairly picky, so things like service dials, bezels, and hands put them off, as do polished cases and scuffed bracelets.
If you are looking for one to be an ownership experience, especially long term, then there are good ones, though not what you'd call bargains, to hand.
The sales threads of Omegaforums.net are good because they are literally policed by fanatics, so nothing claiming to be something it isn't will get through
But for a sapphire sandwich, full set, you'd be talking closer to €4k, looking at some recent sales.0 -
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partyguinness wrote: »TBH I would have that opinion about every model that retails over €1k.
It's like a new car. As soon as you drive of the forecourt that's a few grand down the drain.
With a car I can understand you having chosen every single detail (colour, trim, options etc) to get "*exactly* what you want and paying a premium for that - with a watch there's very little options to choose from really.
BUT! If you compare it to buying jewellery - are you going to gift your gf/wife/mistress some 2nd hand Tiffany rings or is there something special about purchasing new too? Logic and luxury aren't necessarily compatible - ir rather luxury has a logic of its own
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With a car I can understand you having chosen every single detail (colour, trim, options etc) to get "*exactly* what you want and paying a premium for that - with a watch there's very little options to choose from really.
BUT! If you compare it to buying jewellery - are you going to gift your gf/wife/mistress some 2nd hand Tiffany rings or is there something special about purchasing new too? Logic and luxury aren't necessarily compatible - ir rather luxury has a logic of its own
Ah well come on now, buying jewellery for the wife is whole different ball game. I am talking about watches for myself.0 -
With a car I can understand you having chosen every single detail (colour, trim, options etc) to get "*exactly* what you want and paying a premium for that - with a watch there's very little options to choose from really.
BUT! If you compare it to buying jewellery - are you going to gift your gf/wife/mistress some 2nd hand Tiffany rings or is there something special about purchasing new too? Logic and luxury aren't necessarily compatible - ir rather luxury has a logic of its own
I dunno. What do you gift your mistress TF?0 -
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What’s vhp if you don’t mind me asking ?
It's the Very High Precision quartz similar implementation to the Seiko 9f but obviously not as well finished or regarded.
There is GMT version that caught my eye so I'm on the hunt.
You'll regret telling us that now, because we'll all be onto you looking for alerts on watches we want.
Not at all
happy to help out if I can and I'll run thru a quick set up guide for IFTTT aswell if anyone's interested?
The free version allows users to create 3 applets.0 -
It's the Very High Precision quartz similar implementation to the Seiko 9f but obviously not as well finished or regarded.
There is GMT version that caught my eye so I'm on the hunt.
Not at all happy to help out if I can and I'll run thru a quick set up guide for IFTTT aswell if anyone's interested?
The free version allows users to create 3 applets.
I’d be interested! Is it not mostly us centric on Reddit though ?0 -
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Interesting.
I think the best natural material for a watch would be nephrite - aka Jade. While diamond is the hardest mineral, jade is the toughest, which means it is structurally strong and resists breaking or chipping more than any other mineral. It's so tough it's been used for tools such as hammers. The Maoris made various instruments from it for caving in opponents skulls. True overkill.
South Australia has a deposit of black jade, which I think would be a cool material to make a watch from. I have a few Kg of it:
Jade is usually thought of as being green, with that type getting it's colour from iron oxide traces. In typical Australian fashion, it's black Jade is actually green but has so much iron oxide it looks black, but get it thin enough to shine light through and you can see it - as in the small chip above.
Jade can take on a pretty good polish so black jade could look not unlike a black ceramic, though it would be far stronger.
Responding here since this is our chat thread
I'm not so sure Jade has great chipping resistance - just ask any Chinese lady about their bracelets - it's an extremely popular (and expensive - much more so than gold) material in China and a lot of money is made from people breaking their bracelets and needing a jade bracelet replacement...
Speaking of value - last time the burglar visited our home they took a gold necklace of my wife's - but left my matching pendant as it was on string... they obviously just wanted the gold but the "green stone" that was on the gold necklace was worth about 50x more than the gold itself (at least in China) - so the positive thing was that mine was left because they saw no value in it, but (in the circumstances) we'd have been happy to let them take the gold if they just left the jade behind - they probably just tossed the green stone anyway as it has no cash value in Ireland
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Sonething that tough may be difficult to fashion with traditional tooling then…which then leads to increased costs again (not from material but actually working the material - like aventurine - wastage costs from dials breaking etc.)
Tungsten is hard to machine - as Fitz says he uses tungsten *as* the drilling material (pretty sure my Bosch drill uses tungsten bits too)
Everything is almost like butter to diamonds. I have managed to slice a piece off my bigger block of jade using a diamond lapidary saw blade, and as you can see, from the photo, The other block has been cut quite nicely to a pretty nice finish. It's probably not harder to work than obsidian, but the resultant object would be tougher, so bits like strap lugs would be stronger.
The difficulty with machining is most often due to hardness. Nephrite isn't particularly hard, so it can be worked without too much bother: https://discoveries.co.nz/products/jade-fish-hook-pendant-js004
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Jade is a truly wonderful material, with a lustrous near magical quality to it in the best examples and history is full of same from a few places in the world, but my god the Chinese knocked it out of the feckin park. That said it really doesn't strike me as a watch material at all. Its quality of being both hard in material and soft in the working doesn't lend itself to the scale of watches in my humble. Wood the same. In cases anyway watches are metal, though plastics can work, as can carbon fibre. Steel, gold, platinum. It's a pity silver has gone out of favour, as it ages nicely especially when worn, kinda like pearls. Though it is a soft metal, hence it was in use for so long as it's much easier to work(as is gold). Electrum a mix of gold and silver might be interesting and that has a long history as a precious alloy. Bronze got a lift recently, though the best bronze is aged and you can't really do that artificially, or enough to make it right, so I find bronze watches a bit coppery(well duh.). True aged bronze is gorgeous with serious depth to it, though that surface is fragile. Tungsten is very cool and very heavy. Iron is an interesting metal depending on the mix and carbon content. Part of me would love to go full Tutankhamun and have a gold case with a lapis lazuli dial. Bling like an Egyptian. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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