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Who Watches the Watchmen (Our Chit Chat Thread)
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CarProblem wrote: »Question - obviously it's a business and can do what it wants but.......Watchfinder
I know Rolex is desirable, unobtainable and sells 2nd hand miles above retail, but I often saw people here and elsewhere say, even still, WF prices are, ahem, frothy
What I don't understand is other brands, that are obtainable easily at RRP yet for sale with WF for miles above RRP.
Asking €4,290 vs RRP of €3,530
Both Keane's and Sheeran's told me no problem getting one
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jesus there is a lot of 'blinged' two tone datejust popping up on adverts,
its like a 90s rapper sweet shop
I thought it was just me. Loads of them around and the same lads offering on them. So hard to know if a older datejust is fake as honestly they kinda feel fake with todays standards.
Bussdown dials and bezels certainly have reached Ireland.0 -
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There are a few apps that do this quite well. I use one for iPhone called watchee
It allows you to catalogue your collection as well as measuring accuracy.Does that app need a wired mic/headphones?
Most of the app ones I've seen seem to rely on that for the timegrapher function.
I use watchcheck to keep an eye but only use the manual mode.
I'd assume if I was to plug in a mic it would give beat, beat error and lift rate?
Or does that level of detail need a dedicated timegrapher?
The reason why the professional timegraphers work so well is that they use a piezo microphone rather than audio microphone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_microphone
So I can place the watch on the mic and speak, shuffle around, etc. without worrying that it will affect the readings (large knocks on the other hand will affect the readings.)
The apps with microphones all use the audio microphones on phones/in-line microphones - and if you breathe near them they can potentially affect the readings - sometimes the readings I've gotten on my old apps were effectively worthless as they could only give me a general idea if a watch is running fast or slow - not the +3/+0/+17 s/d distinction I'm looking for. But that's for professional use of course.
It will drive you mental to see your expensive watches running at +23 s/d potentially (that's still a good result to be honest) - not everything has to be +-0 and I think we love mechanical gears for getting close rather than hitting it exactly - remember, close for Vostok means +60/-40 s/d - that's not wrong to be fair - 1 minute off a day equates to 99.931% accuracy for a mechanical device.
If you do really want a timing device - I'd splash out and get the model 1000 weishi - ease of use vs audio microphones is incomparable - it's worth the extra 90 euro over an app if you are serious about doing watch timings.
The 1900 that I use has small upgrades - colour screen, more pixels (can display a longer period of time tracked) - worth it for me but I say even the basic 1000 is more than enough for a personal collection.0 -
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The reason why the professional timegraphers work so well is that they use a piezo microphone rather than audio microphone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_microphone
So I can place the watch on the mic and speak, shuffle around, etc. without worrying that it will affect the readings (large knocks on the other hand will affect the readings.)
The apps with microphones all use the audio microphones on phones/in-line microphones - and if you breathe near them they can potentially affect the readings - sometimes the readings I've gotten on my old apps were effectively worthless as they could only give me a general idea if a watch is running fast or slow - not the +3/+0/+17 s/d distinction I'm looking for. But that's for professional use of course.
It will drive you mental to see your expensive watches running at +23 s/d potentially (that's still a good result to be honest) - not everything has to be +-0 and I think we love mechanical gears for getting close rather than hitting it exactly - remember, close for Vostok means +60/-40 s/d - that's not wrong to be fair - 1 minute off a day equates to 99.931% accuracy for a mechanical device.
If you do really want a timing device - I'd splash out and get the model 1000 weishi - ease of use vs audio microphones is incomparable - it's worth the extra 90 euro over an app if you are serious about doing watch timings.
The 1900 that I use has small upgrades - colour screen, more pixels (can display a longer period of time tracked) - worth it for me but I say even the basic 1000 is more than enough for a personal collection.
Any suggestion on where to order the 1000 from tf?0 -
Bussdown dials and bezels certainly have reached Ireland.
https://dailyrapfacts.com/14610/what-does-bust-down-or-bussdown-mean/
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micks_address wrote: »can i just order the cheapest from the page? are there fake timeographers?
I saw a thread on Reddit recently where one of the fake watch factories, was having fakes made of the the fakes they produced.
A fake of fake :eek:
If there's money to made, someone will fake it.
That said, AliExpress have a decent refund policy and there may well be some discount codes around too.
Or sign up for topcashback and get 5% back on your Ali shopping
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Heh - I agree with Banie - there could always be fakes - (there are fake Sea-Gull watches...) - I guess go with one with lots of ratings... having said that you'll tell quite easily if a timegrapher is working correctly or not - so if it's fake or real is it *that* important? We're not talking about Witschi timegraphers on AliX - just weishi 1000 - on Cousins.co.uk it's £150: https://www.cousinsuk.com/product/weishi-1000 - so if you're concerned about fakes you could always pay a 70 euro premium to get piece of mind... or you could just get a weishi 1900 from China for that money (they're hardly going to put in a fake colour screen and extra dots...) 0
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Not a shock really CT. For most of the 20th century gold or gold plated "dress" watches were the man's watch(and women's). Steel(at first silver) or chrome plated brass were generally for actual tool and military type watches, or the really cheap end of the market. It's why 1950's Patek in steel go for crazy money, they were incredibly rare as a man ordering one specifically in steel would have been a major outlier.Cyclingtourist wrote: »If you go back to the late 50s the ads in NG are for gold-plated Hamiltons.
We see mechanical watches as jewellery today, but they always were, just more actually functional in the past when accurate time wasn't as ubiquitous as it is today. Steel as more mid tier/luxury took off in the 1960's, though gold or gold plated were still the majority. The 1970's increased its market share, then the 80's brought more plastic with the digital trend and later Swatch, for luxury more two tone came along and then expensive at the time oddball materials like titanium from Longines and IWC. When the Swiss mechanical revival kicked off it was nearly always with cased in gold dress watches.
If a space alien came down and wanted to represent the man's wristwatch of the 20th century in a picture it would likely be something like this:
You could have worn that watch design in the 20's 30's 40's 50's 60's, 70's even the 80's and not drawn a second glance.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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