"Non book readers" - Season 8 Episode 3 "The Long Night" - Spoilers post 2 forwa

osarusan

Drumpot wrote: »

I understand people’s complaints and don’t necessarily think they are that wrong, they just don’t have to matter or be that important.

I suppose they obviously matter to/are important to the people complaining about them.

I don't see much point in telling somebody else that they are wrong about how they feel about something in the show though. I thought Arya killing NK was fine, others thought it wasn't fine/didn't make sense/whatever.

What am I going to to do...tell them they are wrong? What's the point of that? They feel however they feel about it, there's no right or wrong.

I just post about what I thought about the episode. If somebody wants to discuss that with me, I'm happy to do that, but I'm not bothered about disagreeing with people over what they liked or didn't like or thought was good or bad.

Penn

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

People say it would of been boring to have Jon do it but it was made for him from the very start of the show.

The same could be said for Robb vs the Lannisters. We saw him become King in the North, out-think the Lannisters repeatedly, win every battle they fought, and came up with a plan to take Casterly Rock... and he was stabbed at a wedding.

Similarly with Oberyn Martell. It was set up for him to battle the Lannisters, Tywin in particular. He was poised to defeat The Mountain, save Tyrion's life (arguably the most popular character in the show), and he got his head caved in.

Littlefinger arguably played the "Game of Thrones" better than anyone, pulling strings throughout which extended back to even before the first scenes in the show, and while they played towards having Sansa and Arya turn on each other, they instead turned on him and killed him.

Taking the Iron Throne has been Dany's storyline since basically the first episode, and now she has lost her claim to it because of Jon. We don't know how this is going to pan out in the last few episodes.

Jon was responsible for getting the entire army in place to take on the Night King. However that doesn't mean he had to be the only one who could strike the killing blow. A big one-on-one swordfight between Jon and the Night King would have been a pretty bland and dull ending imo. GoT has always thrown in curveballs to major storylines where you think it'll play out one way but it doesn't. Jon vs NK in some type of one-on-one fight would have been horrible, because as soon as it starts, you know what's going to happen. Jon has never been about personal glory. It's not going to matter to him that he didn't strike the killing blow, and as much as his story has led to the Night King, it's also been about his true lineage, and that part is still to play out. We don't yet know what the ramifications of it being Arya to kill the NK will be.

TerrorFirmer

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Ya i agree with that mostly i just feel the way the story was setup not having him involved in the final fight just doesn't seem right. The fight was setup to be between those two who gets in the final killing blow doesn't have to be set in stone though.

Whatever about the lack of a duel between the NK and Jon, what perplexed me most what that not a single White Walker so much as lifted a finger before being reduced to shattered glass.

Surely at least one duel between one of the Night King's fearsome lieutenants and a member of the main cast like Brienne or Jaime would have radically increased tension.

I don't have a problem with Arya delivering the killing blow. I don't have inherently have a problem with the NK dying, even.

I do have a problem with the fact that - pretty much like the entirety of S7 - the whole thing was just rushed through to a conclusion considering it's been built up for 8 seasons.

SexBobomb

The fact that people are having these debates and gripes about the character who was meant to do X and didn't get to do it or chose not to do it is whats great about this show in my opinion. Its not following (all) the rules we are used to for TV show narratives, for better or worse, personally I'm loving it.

is_that_so

SexBobomb wrote: »

The fact that people are having these debates and gripes about the character who was meant to do X and didn't get to do it or chose not to do it is whats great about this show in my opinion. Its not following (all) the rules we are used to for TV show narratives, for better or worse, personally I'm loving it.

Debate does need a bit of common sense though, given the dragons, walking dead, witches, seers...

How Soon Is Now

Penn wrote: »

The same could be said for Robb vs the Lannisters. We saw him become King in the North, out-think the Lannisters repeatedly, win every battle they fought, and came up with a plan to take Casterly Rock... and he was stabbed at a wedding.

Similarly with Oberyn Martell. It was set up for him to battle the Lannisters, Tywin in particular. He was poised to defeat The Mountain, save Tyrion's life (arguably the most popular character in the show), and he got his head caved in.

Littlefinger arguably played the "Game of Thrones" better than anyone, pulling strings throughout which extended back to even before the first scenes in the show, and while they played towards having Sansa and Arya turn on each other, they instead turned on him and killed him.

Taking the Iron Throne has been Dany's storyline since basically the first episode, and now she has lost her claim to it because of Jon. We don't know how this is going to pan out in the last few episodes.

Jon was responsible for getting the entire army in place to take on the Night King. However that doesn't mean he had to be the only one who could strike the killing blow. A big one-on-one swordfight between Jon and the Night King would have been a pretty bland and dull ending imo. GoT has always thrown in curveballs to major storylines where you think it'll play out one way but it doesn't. Jon vs NK in some type of one-on-one fight would have been horrible, because as soon as it starts, you know what's going to happen. Jon has never been about personal glory. It's not going to matter to him that he didn't strike the killing blow, and as much as his story has led to the Night King, it's also been about his true lineage, and that part is still to play out. We don't yet know what the ramifications of it being Arya to kill the NK will be.

Like i said he doesn't need to get the final blow in someone else could of been involved which if the original fight doesnt reach expectations that will clearly be a shock.


Whatever way ya look at it its looks better and works better then what they actually went and done in the end.

beauf

I don't really have a problem, with who did what. Its all credible. Child kings is historically a thing.
I think GOT has always tried to keep a foot in some historical precedence.

Tactically the battle was a mess. But visually and atmosphere it was great.
I would agree the writing wasn't that great compared to other episodes. But I won't be throwing the toys out the pram about it.
I enjoyed it for all its flaws.

How Soon Is Now

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Whatever about the lack of a duel between the NK and Jon, what perplexed me most what that not a single White Walker so much as lifted a finger before being reduced to shattered glass.

Surely at least one duel between one of the Night King's fearsome lieutenants and a member of the main cast like Brienne or Jaime would have radically increased tension.

I don't have a problem with Arya delivering the killing blow. I don't have inherently have a problem with the NK dying, even.

I do have a problem with the fact that - pretty much like the entirety of S7 - the whole thing was just rushed through to a conclusion considering it's been built up for 8 seasons.

Exactly i fully agree with this and ive been annoyed with it since the episode finished. The story deserved so much more then what we actually got.


The series needs to finish well and give all the fans an ending that makes this show special and stand out or else i reckon what went down in episode 3 will have a very big outcome on how people grade the show.

Blazer

ogsjw wrote: »

Tell me about it, all the alt-right seem to be capable of is single sentences with nothing behind them... oh and attributing completely unconnected things to people being free to speak about their assaults...

And you seem to totally ignore what people are saying and label them as fascists and sexist.

I’ll try and explain this one last time so your tiny tiny little brain can comprehend.
A) most people have no issues with the metoo movement or the lgbt agenda. God knows those people need something like that to bring their concerns into the light
the issue is that Hollywood has hopped onto it and is now pushing women to the forefront of shows again no issue. The issue that most people have is the writers are creating these female characters with no backstory whatsoever and no real development. Rey from Star Wars is a blatant example of this. People would accept her character if she hadn’t defeated a Sith Lord with years of training so easily without ever having held a lightsaber before and didn’t receive any training from Skywalker. Same for Michael and Tilly from discovery.
C) what it has done is given tiny minded people like you a voice to label anyone that criticises these characters as sexist etc but in reality you are displaying your own bigoted nature.

is_that_so

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Exactly i fully agree with this and ive been annoyed with it since the episode finished. The story deserved so much more then what we actually got.


The series needs to finish well and give all the fans an ending that makes this show special and stand out or else i reckon what went down in episode 3 will have a very big outcome on how people grade the show.

There are two battles to be wrapped up in 6 episodes and that's one down. The NK scene not really surprising and someone had to get him.

Necro

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Jon should of been in a position to have the final fight with The Night King it was his story this was set up to be his moment otherwise what was the point in bringing him back ultimately? It wasn't just for Ramsey.

A proper sword fight between both would of been perfectly fitting. You could of had The Night King take charge and it seems like hes about to win THEN have someone come in and help out in some way shape or form.

He was in the perfect position on the battlefield. The Night King pussied out and raised the dead to protect him.

On a rewatch the one thing I have an issue with is the Night King surviving the head on blast of dragonfire. I can't see the point in it given a Valyrian blade to the heart killed him shortly afterwards.

Captain Flaps

Necro wrote: »

He was in the perfect position on the battlefield. The Night King pussied out and raised the dead to protect him.

On a rewatch the one thing I have an issue with is the Night King surviving the head on blast of dragonfire. I can't see the point in it given a Valyrian blade to the heart killed him shortly afterwards.

I reckon it'll turn out that he was a Targaryan back in the day.

facehugger99

I though it was very clever that Arya plunging her Valerian steel dagger into the NK was foreshadowed in the previous episode when Gendry plunged his pork sword into Arya.

Necro

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I do have a problem with the fact that - pretty much like the entirety of S7 - the whole thing was just rushed through to a conclusion considering it's been built up for 8 seasons.

They spent two episodes literally pontificating about the upcoming battle in the final season.

I don't think anything was rushed at all given we waited two years for the final season, two episodes for the battle to actually happen, and the fact that the episode was a feature length one as well.

You can dislike the writing if you like, but rushing things is definitely not what they're doing imo anyways.

How Soon Is Now

is_that_so wrote: »

There are two battles to be wrapped up in 6 episodes and that's one down. The NK scene not really surprising and someone had to get him.

They could of done a lot more with what they had to work with in that episode though.

tritriagain

benny79 wrote: »

Maybe you should watch something else...

I didn't realise this thread was for praise only . I've read the books and enjoyed the TV upto this season but I think this season is disappointing.

Necro

I will say those wishing that the Night King and Jon Snow had a one on one sword fight are making imminently more sense than those wanting some sort of 'psychic plane battle'. That has to be the most bizarre theory I've ever heard.

TerrorFirmer

I meant the last 10 minutes specifically of the episode. As I said, I don't have a problem with the NK dying within those 80 minutes.

How Soon Is Now

Necro wrote: »

They spent two episodes literally pontificating about the upcoming battle in the final season.

I don't think anything was rushed at all given we waited two years for the final season, two episodes for the battle to actually happen, and the fact that the episode was a feature length one as well.

You can dislike the writing if you like, but rushing things is definitely not what they're doing imo anyways.

The battle itself was constantly talked about not the actual White Walkers or The Night King. We got bits and bobs about them really.

is_that_so

Necro wrote: »

They spent two episodes literally pontificating about the upcoming battle in the final season.

I don't think anything was rushed at all given we waited two years for the final season, two episodes for the battle to actually happen, and the fact that the episode was a feature length one as well.

You can dislike the writing if you like, but rushing things is definitely not what they're doing imo anyways.

Episode 2 was a very good precursor to this in its sense of foreboding.

bigslice

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Whatever about the lack of a duel between the NK and Jon, what perplexed me most what that not a single White Walker so much as lifted a finger before being reduced to shattered glass.

Surely at least one duel between one of the Night King's fearsome lieutenants and a member of the main cast like Brienne or Jaime would have radically increased tension.

I don't have a problem with Arya delivering the killing blow. I don't have inherently have a problem with the NK dying, even.

I do have a problem with the fact that - pretty much like the entirety of S7 - the whole thing was just rushed through to a conclusion considering it's been built up for 8 seasons.

I’d have thought a duel between one of the WW and one of the main characters would have been too obvious.

I now imagine that everything is thought out in GOT and it’s not obvious on screen. In past episodes we see the Knight King sending in the WW to battle at Hardhome and been beaten. Next time we see one is when Jon and his mission head north to capture one of the dead. But this WW would appear to have been bait to get the dragon north and to kill for the NK army. None of his WW took part in the later battle either and stood with him as he took out the dragon.

So the NK knew the WW could be killed and the consequences. So he just held them back until the grand entrance and victory looked close. Then they all went in together. Such was his numbers of an undead army who followed his every command, he didn’t need the WW in battle.

If the writers really played up to “fan service”, which appears to be the new cool phrase or go marvel/Disney, then we’d have had a few duels with WW and varying degrees of success!

Necro

TerrorFirmer wrote:

I meant the last 10 minutes specifically of the episode. As I said, I don't have a problem with the NK dying within those 80 minutes.

Ah I dunno, I'd moreso put that down to the TV dramatisation and climax. I dont have an issue with it tbh. Except the dragonfire. Didn't like that bit.

How Soon Is Now wrote:

The battle itself was constantly talked about not the actual White Walkers or The Night King. We got bits and bobs about them really.

I can see why they didn't engage though given Jon Snow smashed one to pieces at Hardhome and Sam killed one with a small dagger.

Ironically the living should have kept their generals safe and well in the Weirwood protecting Bran as well instead of Theon and a few Ironborn.

Drumpot

Im surprised I havent seen anybody mention Bronn. Tyrion and Jamie could be killed in the most horrible way, at least dieing in battle would be honorable. It would be horrible for them to be slain by a hitman. That would be harder to take them either or both dieing in the long night.

Also forgot about the giant bow and arrow Cersei has for the Dragon, dont think that is going to end well.

I think somebody made a good point about the NK. He isnt the main story and in many regards his death is bringing us back full circle where the battle for the throne is the main theme of the show. I think everybody might start turning on each other once somebody wins the throne, would be depressing and quite fitting really.

How Soon Is Now

Necro wrote: »

Ah I dunno, I'd moreso put that down to the TV dramatisation and climax. I dont have an issue with it tbh. Except the dragonfire. Didn't like that bit.



I can see why they didn't engage though given Jon Snow smashed one to pieces at Hardhome and Sam killed one with a small dagger.

Ironically the living should have kept their generals safe and well in the Weirwood protecting Bran as well instead of Theon and a few Ironborn.

I really liked a lot of that last episode i think the ending obviously spoiled a lot of it for me and i didn't like the obvious issue with allowing characters to become immune to death either.


I just felt in general we obviously hyped it for ourselves but it was also marketed as something that was going to be on epic levels but really battle of the bastards was done a lot better as an overall episode.


We all know The Night King had to lose which meant thats the end of the White Walker Night King story so i think we needed more on them not just in this episode but before.



Did the budget stop this?

Tazzimus

Necro wrote: »

He was in the perfect position on the battlefield. The Night King pussied out and raised the dead to protect him.

On a rewatch the one thing I have an issue with is the Night King surviving the head on blast of dragonfire. I can't see the point in it given a Valyrian blade to the heart killed him shortly afterwards.

Valeryian steel is supposed to have been made with spells and dragonfire.

No one actually knew if dragonfire would do anything to him or the other walkers, turns out it doesn't.




For the WW not doing anything:
I took that as NK holding back what keeps his army alive and just using the sheer number of wights to overwhelm everyone, while keeping his elite guys by his side in case he was somehow attacked.

Don't think we've ever seen him do any fighting either, bar throw a few spears, have we?

lawred2

Drumpot wrote: »

Im surprised I havent seen anybody mention Bronn. Tyrion and Jamie could be killed in the most horrible way, at least dieing in battle would be honorable. It would be horrible for them to be slain by a hitman. That would be harder to take them either or both dieing in the long night.

Also forgot about the giant bow and arrow Cersei has for the Dragon, dont think that is going to end well.

I think somebody made a good point about the NK. He isnt the main story and in many regards his death is bringing us back full circle where the battle for the throne is the main theme of the show. I think everybody might start turning on each other once somebody wins the throne, would be depressing and quite fitting really.

yeah but wouldn't that be more like the GOT way of doing it?

Essien

Penn wrote: »

Agreed, and while I hated it at the time, the scene of Arya sneaking through the library was a precursor to her being able to gets past the White Walkers to get at the Night King. The NK caught her because he's obviously quicker than the Walkers etc, but then her fight with Brienne last season was also a precursor to her dagger-swap move.

Not to mention her approaching Jon from behind in the Godswood in SE08 E01. To which he responded:

"How did you sneak up on me?"

How Soon Is Now

Drumpot wrote: »

Im surprised I havent seen anybody mention Bronn. Tyrion and Jamie could be killed in the most horrible way, at least dieing in battle would be honorable. It would be horrible for them to be slain by a hitman. That would be harder to take them either or both dieing in the long night.

Also forgot about the giant bow and arrow Cersei has for the Dragon, dont think that is going to end well.

I think somebody made a good point about the NK. He isnt the main story and in many regards his death is bringing us back full circle where the battle for the throne is the main theme of the show. I think everybody might start turning on each other once somebody wins the throne, would be depressing and quite fitting really.

I just dont see Bronn turning on two people hes had a strong friendship and relationship with for money he doesn't really need at this point.


Plus he has no connection to Cersei that would put her over the brothers.


If he sets out and kills either of them on purpose it would be ridiculous on many levels. By accident who knows....

beauf

Tazzimus wrote: »

Valeryian steel is supposed to have been made with spells and dragonfire.

No one actually knew if dragonfire would do anything to him or the other walkers, turns out it doesn't.




For the WW not doing anything:
I took that as NK holding back what keeps his army alive and just using the sheer number of wights to overwhelm everyone, while keeping his elite guys by his side in case he was somehow attacked.

Don't think we've ever seen him do any fighting either, bar throw a few spears, have we?

GOt doesn't deal with dragon fire or magic consistently or the walkers. For me its a its a flaw in the original books. It has a split personally in that regard.Feels like two different stories and worlds pushed together, not all that successfully.

Necro

Drumpot wrote: »

Im surprised I havent seen anybody mention Bronn. Tyrion and Jamie could be killed in the most horrible way, at least dieing in battle would be honorable. It would be horrible for them to be slain by a hitman. That would be harder to take them either or both dieing in the long night.

Also forgot about the giant bow and arrow Cersei has for the Dragon, dont think that is going to end well.

I think somebody made a good point about the NK. He isnt the main story and in many regards his death is bringing us back full circle where the battle for the throne is the main theme of the show. I think everybody might start turning on each other once somebody wins the throne, would be depressing and quite fitting really.

I think that's exactly what's going to happen actually re: Tyrion. It would be a very GOT-esque type thing to do with the sellsword that Tyrion brought in and rose up till someone else with more coin took him away.

The Dragon-Buster will feature yet too I reckon.

Drumpot

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I just dont see Bronn turning on two people hes had a strong friendship and relationship with for money he doesn't really need at this point.


Plus he has no connection to Cersei that would put her over the brothers.


If he sets out and kills either of them on purpose it would be ridiculous on many levels. By accident who knows....

I agree but it would be totally GOT to do it . . . I would rather he didnt carry out the order and double crossed Cersei.

beauf

Necro wrote: »

I think that's exactly what's going to happen actually re: Tyrion. It would be a very GOT-esque type thing to do with the sellsword that Tyrion brought in and rose up till someone else with more coin took him away.

The Dragon-Buster will feature yet too I reckon.

Bronn isn't always solely motivated by profit. If he was that would be very 2 dimensional character. In GOT the characters are rarely that.

Necro

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I just dont see Bronn turning on two people hes had a strong friendship and relationship with for money he doesn't really need at this point.


Plus he has no connection to Cersei that would put her over the brothers.


If he sets out and kills either of them on purpose it would be ridiculous on many levels. By accident who knows....

Ah no, the narrative with Bronn and Tyrion in particular is 'Remember that if you ever think of betraying me - I can pay more than them.' Yes they were relatively friendly but it was always based on cold hard cash (or coin, depending on how deep into the world we want to go).

Tyrion doesn't have that shield anymore as he's shed the Lannister wealth at this point.

Necro

beauf wrote: »

Bronn isn't always solely motivated by profit. If he was that would be very 2 dimensional character. In GOT the characters are rarely that.

Is he not? We'll agree to differ but that's always been the relationship that I've seen Bronn have with Tyrion in particular.

Jaime it's slightly different, if anything I'd see that as more of a truer friendship than his relationship with Tyrion.

Tazzimus

Necro wrote: »

Ah no, the narrative with Bronn and Tyrion in particular is 'Remember that if you ever think of betraying me - I can pay more than them.' Yes they were relatively friendly but it was always based on cold hard cash (or coin, depending on how deep into the world we want to go).

Tyrion doesn't have that shield anymore as he's shed the Lannister wealth at this point.

Plus they haven't had any wealth for quite some time, not that Tywin was telling people that.
Or at least no way of producing more.

Tacitus Kilgore

Necro wrote: »

The Dragon-Buster will feature yet too I reckon.

Did drogon not incinerate the ballista in the battle of the goldroad?

Necro

Tazzimus wrote: »

Plus they haven't had any wealth for quite some time, not that Tywin was telling people that.
Or at least no way of producing more.

Well yeah, at this point Cersei is funded by stolen Tyrell gold and the Iron Bank rather than her own family's wealth.

Penn

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Did drogon not incinerate the ballista in the battle of the goldroad?

Wouldn't take much to build another. A month or two would have passed since then.

How Soon Is Now

Necro wrote: »

Ah no, the narrative with Bronn and Tyrion in particular is 'Remember that if you ever think of betraying me - I can pay more than them.' Yes they were relatively friendly but it was always based on cold hard cash (or coin, depending on how deep into the world we want to go).

Tyrion doesn't have that shield anymore as he's shed the Lannister wealth at this point.

Ya theres a certain element of money but i think the two of them respected each other also. You can see with both brothers how they came to trust Bronn and he was always there for them as well. It cant all be down to money especially with Jamie.

beauf

Bronn had more lucrative options at times. Choose not to to take them. Especially suicide missions, tasks. I think he just likes a good scrap at heart.

TerrorFirmer

There is no way Bronn would logically kill Jaime, he's already risked his life saving him before and the pair are genuinely shown to be friends. How friendly he is with Tyrion is pretty irrelevant, as he's hardly going to whack Jaime's brother.

Having Jaime or Tyrion murdered by an assassin on Cersei's orders would be a cruel and devastating end to either characters arc, but it would be true to GOT and perfectly acceptable narrative wise.

However, having Bronn actually randomly kill (or attempt to kill) Jaime, would really be an incredibly lazy choice and I would be at new levels of disappointment with the show personally speaking.

Not sure it even really made sense for Cersei to send him of all people in the first place. Why would she? Unless she already knows he won't and wanted to send a message to Jaime, but....I'm not sure that makes much sense either.

How Soon Is Now

beauf wrote: »

Bronn had more lucrative options at times. Choose not to to take them. Especially suicide missions, tasks. I think he just likes a good scrap at heart.

Even his reaction to what Cersei is asking him to do theres obvious doubts there. I think it would be silly to assume nothing will happen but id be very surprised if he actually ends up killing either of them especially Jamie.

beauf

I think a bigger issues is most of the characters seem to be on the same side. Some huge rift and back stabbing must be imminent.

Necro

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

There is no way Bronn would logically kill Jaime, he's already risked his life saving him before and the pair are genuinely shown to be friends. How friendly he is with Tyrion is pretty irrelevant, as he's hardly going to whack Jaime's brother.

Having Jaime or Tyrion murdered by an assassin on Cersei's orders would be a cruel and devastating end to either characters arc, but it would be true to GOT and perfectly acceptable narrative wise.

However, having Bronn actually randomly kill (or attempt to kill) Jaime, would really be an incredibly lazy choice and I would be at new levels of disappointment with the show personally speaking.

Not sure it even really made sense for Cersei to send him of all people in the first place. Why would she? Unless she already knows he won't and wanted to send a message to Jaime, but....I'm not sure that makes much sense either.

It's why I think it'll be Tyrion, not Jaime. And it's not exactly random given they've telegraphed it in advance. It's only a theory.

What gives me pause for thought is that they've shown it on screen already so we're expecting something to happen.

How Soon Is Now

While where on the subject of Tyrion does anyone think anything will come of the conversation he had off screen with Bran?

I think most people assumed it would affect The Night King story but obviously nothing we seen anyway.

Surely they have to address this seeing as they made a point of not showing any of it.

Drumpot

beauf wrote: »

I think a bigger issues is most of the characters seem to be on the same side. Some huge rift and back stabbing must be imminent.

I think we could quickly see the in fighting starting up again.

A common enemy unites and its been an "enemy of my enemy" alliance that was purely to survive.

How will the Starks react to Jon's new family status ? How will the dragon queen react? I dont see things ending happy family even if they defeat Cersei.

I would like to think that the fellowship/group that had the drinks together in Winterfell, the night before the battle, will remain loyal to each other. But again, this is GOT that set the tone from series 1, when Ned Starks head was lopped off, so I dont expect a Marvel ending for any of our beloved characters.

beauf

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

While where on the subject of Tyrion does anyone think anything will come of the conversation he had off screen with Bran?

I think most people assumed it would affect The Night King story but obviously nothing we seen anyway.

Surely they have to address this seeing as they made a point of not showing any of it.

Remind me what was this again?

homerun_homer

Necro wrote: »

Well yeah, at this point Cersei is funded by stolen Tyrell gold and the Iron Bank rather than her own family's wealth.

This was a question I wanted to ask, in reading a piece about the Golden Company, they are being funded by stolen Highgarden gold. But if Dani stopped the Lannister army en route home, surely the gold never made it to King's Landing to pay off the Iron Bank debts and buy the services of the army.

What am I missing?

ogsjw

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Did drogon not incinerate the ballista in the battle of the goldroad?

A ballista features prominently in the credits sequence for this season, expect them to return. I don't think there was just enough material for one in the entire continent :pac: I also don't think the Golden Company plan to fight off two dragons with calvary :pac:



I wonder if the dragon's fire will set off the wild fyre.

TerrorFirmer

homerun_homer wrote: »

This was a question I wanted to ask, in reading a piece about the Golden Company, they are being funded by stolen Highgarden gold. But if Dani stopped the Lannister army en route home, surely the gold never made it to King's Landing to pay off the Iron Bank debts and buy the services of the army.

What am I missing?

I can't remember where but it was mentioned that they secured the gold, just lost a lot of men and supplies.