Irish people supporting English football teams

physioman

I just don't get it. Why are Irish people so fanatical about English football teams. I particularly laugh at the way they talk about individual players being loyal to particular teams. Do they really care about the fans or the 100k they are getting a week. 😂

Francie Barrett

soccer forum maybe?

Guy:Incognito

Well, this is new........

mightybashful

physioman wrote: »

I just don't get it. Why are Irish people so fanatical about English football teams. I particularly laugh at the way they talk about individual players being loyal to particular teams. Do they really care about the fans or the 100k they are getting a week. 😂

Lower than a snake's belly....

Badly Drunk Boy

physioman wrote: »

Do they really care about the fans or the 100k they are getting a week. ��

Only mediocre players get £100,000 a week these days...

ben.schlomo

Groundbreaking stuff OP, congrats.

Gonad

Irish people are some of the most hypocritical in the world . We claim to be this special proud country that looks after our own. The truth is we hate to see our own do well and would rather pay out money to fly to the uk to watch football rather than spending a few quid a week supporting our nearest Irish team .

Atlantic Dawn

The Irish league is absolute trash because of the FAI, having the CEO getting a salary multiples of the winner of the league is a prime example of how absolutely sh!t it was destined to be forever at the control of such twats, supporters have a lot to answer for accepting this for many decades.

With the change of board it might become better but supporters are the driving force.

Farawayhome

Pretty embarrassing how upset they get about it all. Some of them have never even set foot in the place these teams are from!

Woodsie1

Jesus!!
OP here since 2011 and this is the best they can come up with.
1/10.
Hack of this thread.
Use the search function FFS!

Necro

Did we not have a thread on this a few weeks ago? You need some new material OP

Noveight

Irish people speaking in English, cad é an scéal ansin?

corner of hells

Necro wrote: »

Did we not have a thread on this a few weeks ago? You need some new material OP

We're a bit thin on the ground this time of year for thteads ,so it's either this , a poppy rant or teachers being on holiday for 86 weeks a year.

physioman

Gonad wrote: »

Irish people are some of the most hypocritical in the world . We claim to be this special proud country that looks after our own. The truth is we hate to see our own do well and would rather pay out money to fly to the uk to watch football rather than spending a few quid a week supporting our nearest Irish team .

I do laugh at Irish fans abroad being loved for tidying up a city after a days drinking yet when there are games on in the Aviva I don't see too many of them lifting the rubbish off the streets around ballsbridge

physioman

Necro wrote: »

Did we not have a thread on this a few weeks ago? You need some new material OP

Not trying to be original. Just reading posts after the Liverpool game and laughing at how serious Irish people are about English football. Didn't realise I wasn't allowed to repeat topics on after hours forum 🙄

Woodsie1

physioman wrote: »

I do laugh at Irish fans abroad being loved for tidying up a city after a days drinking yet when there are games on in the Aviva I don't see too many of them lifting the rubbish off the streets around ballsbridge

They dont sit around Ballsbridge all day drinking before a game.

Necro

physioman wrote: »

Not trying to be original. Just reading posts after the Liverpool game and laughing at how serious Irish people are about English football. Didn't realise I wasn't allowed to repeat topics on after hours forum ��

You seem annoyed though. If it bothers you, ignore it. You're not a closet Liverpool fan are you

ChikiChiki

physioman wrote: »

I just don't get it. Why are Irish people so fanatical about English football teams. I particularly laugh at the way they talk about individual players being loyal to particular teams. Do they really care about the fans or the 100k they are getting a week. 😂

Because the standard is way better with multitudes of Irish influence across the leagues and the FAI is a corrupt organisation which severely hampers the progress of the domestic game.

That simple.

physioman

corner of hells wrote: »

We're a bit thin on the ground this time of year for thteads ,so it's either this , a poppy rant or teachers being on holiday for 86 weeks a year.

Your thread on ' before i kill my work colleague' was an insightful, fascinating read 😂

Farawayhome

I don't know why Irish people are watching soccer anyway. We have football and hurling here, you don't have to be watching borefests.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

physioman wrote: »

I just don't get it. Why are Irish people so fanatical about English football teams. I particularly laugh at the way they talk about individual players being loyal to particular teams. Do they really care about the fans or the 100k they are getting a week. ��

Done this to death: the quality is better, the premier league has fans all over the world, not just in Ireland (or England for that matter), some of us do watch Irish league and support Irish football teams as well and it's hereditary (as in, we grew up with parents and uncles watching it, so....)

Simples.

NIMAN

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The Irish league is absolute trash because of the FAI, having the CEO getting a salary multiples of the winner of the league is a prime example of how absolutely sh!t it was destined to be forever at the control of such twats, supporters have a lot to answer for accepting this for many decades.

With the change of board it might become better but supporters are the driving force.

But is this reason simply NOT to go to watch your local team, ever?

Or just a convenient excuse?

corner of hells

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Done this to death: the quality is better, the premier league has fans all over the world, not just in Ireland (or England for that matter), some of us do watch Irish league and support Irish football teams as well and it's hereditary (as in, we grew up with parents and uncles watching it, so....)

Simples.

And I didn't kill my work colleague either.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

corner of hells wrote: »

And I didn't kill my work colleague either.

Achievement unlocked!

Zaph

Farawayhome wrote: »

I don't know why Irish people are watching soccer anyway. We have football and hurling here, you don't have to be watching borefests.

Well in the same way that some people have no interest in soccer, some of us have no interest in Gaelic football or hurling. Or plenty of other sports, for that matter, but if someone wants to go off and watch a tennis match, for example, I'm not going to tell them not to just because it bores the arse off me. It's all part of what makes each of us individuals.

buried

EmmetSpiceland

It all started when Match of the Day was shown on tv. Before then Irish soccer got huge support. It actually seems to be on the increase now, which is a good sign.

Unfortunately, the FAI are more concerned with paying the blazers rather than putting money into the Irish sides. The prize money for the League of Ireland is paltry and they are happy to let the English clubs poach any young talent to train them up for consideration for the national side. Lower divisions too, not the Premier League.

I follow an English side myself, Championship but hopefully going to get up in the play offs. That’s due to family and exposure as a youth.

Was actually out tonight meeting friends while the Barcelona vs Liverpool semi final of the Champions League was on and I have to say it was embarrassing to see groups of Manchester United fans out singing about Barcelona on the walk to the bus after the game. Really sad behaviour.

Farawayhome

Zaph wrote: »

Well in the same way that some people have no interest in soccer, some of us have no interest in Gaelic football or hurling. Or plenty of other sports, for that matter, but if someone wants to go off and watch a tennis match, for example, I'm not going to tell them not to just because it bores the arse off me. It's all part of what makes each of us individuals.

Oh yeah, but would you get so upset and into fights with somebody over a tennis player? People who've never set foot in either Liverpool or Manchester get in huge arguments with each other, call each other scouse scum or manc scum etc. Obviously, that's not everyone but it's a bit pathetic isn't it?

Woodsie1

Farawayhome wrote: »

Oh yeah, but would you get so upset and into fights with somebody over a tennis player? People who've never set foot in either Liverpool or Manchester get in huge arguments with each other, call each other scouse scum or manc scum etc. Obviously, that's not everyone but it's a bit pathetic isn't it?

Totally,but its still possible to support "your" team without the local rivalry the brits have.

GBX

Clan culture .. not a new thing. Same way women ****e themselves over the latest garb one of the Instargom fluencers spout on about or the D4 heads shouting for the Maori Fiachra playing for New Zealand . Not gonna stop or change any time soon!

Zaph

Farawayhome wrote: »

Oh yeah, but would you get so upset and into fights with somebody over a tennis player?

I wouldn't, but I wouldn't do it over a football team either. Some would, admittedly, but for me having a bit of craic with friends or work colleagues about your respective teams is all part of the fun and enjoyment of following soccer. Just as it is with all team sports.

Farawayhome

Zaph wrote: »

I wouldn't, but I wouldn't do it over a football team either. Some would, admittedly, but for me having a bit of craic with friends or work colleagues about your respective teams is all part of the fun and enjoyment of following soccer. Just as it is with all team sports.

If you don't feel Irish soccer is good enough then why choose England? Surely a Spanish team or something would provide more enjoyment.

Stephen15

I would imagine it's fairly common for people in regions with weaker football leagues to support teams in regions with stronger football teams. Look at most of the third world most people there support teams in Europe and not local teams. Also in Scandanivan countries particularly Norway where domestic football is weaker it is common to support English clubs.

https://www.lifeinnorway.net/the-norwegian-obsession-with-english-football/

Zaph

Farawayhome wrote: »

If you don't feel Irish soccer is good enough then why choose England? Surely a Spanish team or something would provide more enjoyment.

When I started following soccer in the early 70s you might as well support a team on Mars as Spain because the coverage available in Ireland would be pretty much the same. That said, there are teams in other countries that I take more of an interest in than others, but as regards who I actually support, it'll be the same team I've followed for well over 40 years.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Farawayhome wrote: »

Oh yeah, but would you get so upset and into fights with somebody over a tennis player? People who've never set foot in either Liverpool or Manchester get in huge arguments with each other, call each other scouse scum or manc scum etc. Obviously, that's not everyone but it's a bit pathetic isn't it?

Name calling yes. Absolutely. But I've seen that happen with Bohs and Rovers too. The fact that they're local supporters and not foreign makes no difference - it's still pathetic.

But I also watch american football and have a favourite NFL team and have had debates with fans of other teams there as will.

Never liked GAA, found it boring when I was a kid. No idea why. Hurling as well (but it was fun to play). Just life.

dd973

Not this again, Irish people follow English football as do Scandinavians, likewise lots of English and Irish people follow Spanish and Italian football, might as well have a thread on bear defecation in Canadian woodland.

ChikiChiki

NIMAN wrote: »

But is this reason simply NOT to go to watch your local team, ever?

Or just a convenient excuse?

It's actually a reason NOT too. Why would anyone support such carry on?

The mind boggles.

Tom Mann Centuria

Zaph wrote: »

but as regards who I actually support, it'll be the same team I've followed for well over 40 years.

One day they won't fcuk up getting out of the Championship, when they look nailed on to do it.


One day.

garyskeepers

I once had a friend of 20 years stop talking to me, COMPLETELY beause I didnt have a problem with the queen coming over here, becase he "hated the English" .

He was a huge Leeds fan, bought the jerseys, went to matches, etc. Then moved to Australia for a while.

Still hasnt talked to me since.


go Figure

Necro

Farawayhome wrote:

Oh yeah, but would you get so upset and into fights with somebody over a tennis player? People who've never set foot in either Liverpool or Manchester get in huge arguments with each other, call each other scouse scum or manc scum etc. Obviously, that's not everyone but it's a bit pathetic isn't it?

You obviously haven't read the Federer/Nadal debates online then :P

It's just tribal stuff really. Some get carried away, most behave themselves normally.

Same could be applied to stuff like politics or religion, it's not something that keeps me up at night tbh.

EmmetSpiceland

Farawayhome wrote: »

Oh yeah, but would you get so upset and into fights with somebody over a tennis player? People who've never set foot in either Liverpool or Manchester get in huge arguments with each other, call each other scouse scum or manc scum etc. Obviously, that's not everyone but it's a bit pathetic isn't it?

Honestly, outside of the terraces of a LoI game the only actual fist fight I’ve seen was watching the 2007 Champions League final, I think it was on midweek, if I’m not mistaken.

Again, it was down to a group of Man United fans goading the Liverpool fans after they’d lost. I thought the Liverpool guys were stupid for biting but it had been going on all evening and eventually reached breaking point.

I don’t think I’ve seen any other team’s fans go out to watch another side, that they don’t support, play. It’s pretty bizarre. Whatever about going to watch a game as neutral, wearing your own teams jersey, and purposely attacking one side, really is quite sad.

Zaph

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

One day they won't fcuk up getting out of the Championship, when they look nailed on to do it.


One day.

I wish I had your confidence.

NIMAN

ChikiChiki wrote: »

It's actually a reason NOT too. Why would anyone support such carry on?

The mind boggles.

So I should abandon my local football team cos John Delaney is a chancer?

BohsCeltic

The main issue is some of these so called 'fans' have never been in their clubs stadium. Just bar stool supporters.

areu4real?

If you want to go down the road of only supporting Irish football teams then you must also watch: only Irish movies and TV shows, listen only to Irish musicians, solely appreciate Irish art, etc, etc.

The fact is people will generally look for higher quality entertainment, so Hollywood movies and European art are normal. If you excluded soccer ball you surely must exclude all the other nasty international shenanigans and become a pure nationalist. And that's not exactly a good thing imo

Yer Da sells Avon

physioman wrote: »

I just don't get it.

It's mad how there are so many threads on AH started by people who don't 'get' stuff that other people 'get'. Sometimes it seems like like part of your brains are missing.

BohsCeltic wrote:

The main issue is some of these so called 'fans' have never been in their clubs stadium. Just bar stool supporters.

So what? I've never been to Australia, but I still watch Home and Away.

mikhail

areu4real? wrote: »

If you want to go down the road of only supporting Irish football teams then you must also watch: only Irish movies and TV shows, listen only to Irish musicians, solely appreciate Irish art, etc, etc.

The fact is people will generally look for higher quality entertainment, so Hollywood movies and European art are normal. If you excluded soccer ball you surely must exclude all the other nasty international shenanigans and become a pure nationalist. And that's not exactly a good thing imo

That's a stupid analogy, and you know it. Do you support the German national football team? Do you support Stephen Soderbergh movies at the exclusion of any other? Have you ever stood in a stadium, singing the praises of Banksy? I suppose you support Dublin in the gaelic football because of their silky skills and great success making for higher quality entertainment, even though you hail from elsewhere?

dd973

garyskeepers wrote: »

I once had a friend of 20 years stop talking to me, COMPLETELY beause I didnt have a problem with the queen coming over here, becase he "hated the English" .

He was a huge Leeds fan, bought the jerseys, went to matches, etc. Then moved to Australia for a while.

Still hasnt talked to me since.


go Figure

He sounds like the idiot who once took me for English (based on having an accent that's less than 100% Irish) and asked if I was on a 'tour of duty', what a thick c**t was my inner response.

Your Face

I don't support any English teams but I always watch Barca play and I've been to a few of their matches.
I've gone to a load of LOI games and tbh it's boring stuff and of low quality.
If I'm paying, I want to be entertained so I can see why people would follow a premiership team.

Optimalprimerib

The premier league is supported worldwide. It has many of the best players in the world and is marketed at an international as well as domestic audience. You adopt a team, whether you are from there or not and become a fan. The same as you do for a musician, artist, author or actor.

Humans have a tribal instinct and want to identify and be identified as part of a tribe. Soccer fans pick a popular team such as Liverpool and it becomes part of them. Nothing wrong with it.

NIMAN

Your Face wrote: »

I don't support any English teams but I always watch Barca play and I've been to a few of their matches.
I've gone to a load of LOI games and tbh it's boring stuff and of low quality.
If I'm paying, I want to be entertained so I can see why people would follow a premiership team.

First off, if you go to LoI games expecting to see anywhere near the standard you are watching guys on €100,000 ---> €500,000 per week get, then you're deluded.

And secondly, the EPL is like most football leagues. Most games are average at best, a top class entertaining game is a rare thing. I have been watching football for several decades, and it can take you months to see a great game. I get more excited being at the Brandywell watching us beat one of the LoI top sides rather than watching a great football match like Barca v Liverpool tonight.

But hey, maybe thats just me.