Teachers in Florida to be permitted to carry guns

TeaBagMania

evolving_doors wrote: »

How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into Irish schools ?

evolving_doors wrote: »

Yup cos it's all the immigrants in the US shooting up the classrooms!

my reference was to answer your question regarding Irish Schools, now you're off on some tangent and spouting nonsense about US Schools.
You need to reboot your train of thought

evolving_doors

TeaBagMania wrote: »

my reference was to answer your question regarding Irish Schools, now you're off on some tangent and spouting nonsense about US Schools.
You need to reboot your train of thought

Pipe bombs, trucks and airplanes !!!
Who introduced that tangent?
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TeaBagMania wrote: »

wouldn't make a notable difference
crazy gonna do what crazy wants to do, if there are no guns than crazy gonna find an alternative, pipe bombs, big truck into crowd, airplane, etc

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not to mention the immigrant tangent.

TeaBagMania wrote: »

give you immigration policy time to work

TeaBagMania

nice attempt at deflection

Deebles McBeebles

Teachers in Florida to be permitted to carry pulse rifles.

astrofool

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TeaBagMania wrote: »

nice attempt at deflection

How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into English schools?
How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into German schools
How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into French schools?
How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into Spanish schools?
How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into Italian schools?
How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into Greek schools?
How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into Romanian schools?
How many pipe bombs, big trucks and airplanes have gone into Saudi Arabian schools?
Which countries are we waiting on the immigration policies to "work" before these start happening?

TeaBagMania

well the "fool" part of your handle is correct, now we've expanded to mainland europe.
there are plenty of examples from the past many years and before you ask, no, im not wasting my time finding and posting links for you, you're a big boy and can search the interweb all by yourself

evolving_doors

TeaBagMania wrote: »

nice attempt at deflection

If that's the best avoidance of the topic you can resort to then your hand must be pretty weak.

I've given a factual reply... the kids who shoot up American schools aren't outsiders. They've gone to this schools for years.

No kids have resorted to planes and trucks.

They're taking the gun option.

ohnonotgmail

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Teachers in Florida to be permitted to carry pulse rifles.

In the 40 watt range?

astrofool

TeaBagMania wrote: »

well the "fool" part of your handle is correct, now we've expanded to mainland europe.
there are plenty of examples from the past many years and before you ask, no, im not wasting my time finding and posting links for you, you're a big boy and can search the interweb all by yourself

I could imagine pipe-bomb's being a thing, especially in some regions, but I'm struggling on the big trucks and airplanes, you clearly know how to use the interweb to find this information better than me.

TeaBagMania

evolving_doors wrote: »

If that's the best avoidance of the topic you can resort to then your hand must be pretty weak.

I've given a factual reply... the kids who shoot up American schools aren't outsiders. They've gone to this schools for years.

No kids have resorted to planes and trucks.

They're taking the gun option.

again, i never mentioned anything about American schools, you can try to will it into this thread as much as you like, never happened.
In fact, i never mentioned ANY schools until you brought Irish schools into the equation.

i tried to dumb down my original post as much as possible with reference too...
even if there are zero guns on the planet its not going to stop someone from finding an alternative to mass killing
clearly i failed to convey this simple idea

BattleCorp

Terrorists really don't need guns if they want to do a lot of harm. The lad in Nice showed us that.

But arming the Florida teachers is nothing really to do with terrorism.

It's more to prevent Americans from going into schools and doing fcuked up sh1t. Yes, a few immigrants have done dumb sh1t but the vast majority are mentally ill Americans.

What puzzles me is why (some) Americans think it's a reasonable thing to do, to go into a school and shoot a load of kids. Other countries have guns but don't really have that sort of carry-on.

notobtuse

Good for Florida. Bad guys will now never know when there’s a good guy there to shoot back. Teachers who want to carry guns in districts that choose to join the program would have to undergo police-style training, psychiatric evaluation and drug screening. Kind of a school I'd want my kids to go to.

Deebles McBeebles

notobtuse wrote: »

Good for Florida. Bad guys will now never know when there’s a good guy there to shoot back. Teachers who want to carry guns in districts that choose to join the program would have to undergo police-style training, psychiatric evaluation and drug screening. Kind of a school I'd want my kids to go to.

If I had kids I'd want rid of them asap too.

notobtuse

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

If I had kids I'd want rid of them asap too.

Best then you don't have kids, I figure.

Deebles McBeebles

notobtuse wrote: »

Best then you don't have kids, I figure.

Ditto.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

notobtuse wrote: »

Good for Florida. Bad guys will now never know when there’s a good guy there to shoot back. Teachers who want to carry guns in districts that choose to join the program would have to undergo police-style training, psychiatric evaluation and drug screening. Kind of a school I'd want my kids to go to.

Why not just arm the kids?

Oh wait...

notobtuse

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Why not just arm the kids?

Oh wait...

Simple... most high school students aren't mature enough for the responsibility.

steddyeddy

I'll sign out of this one for a while. See you next mass shooting thread guys! Remember change nothing and hope the problem will go away.

dodderangler

steddyeddy wrote: »

I'll sign out of this one for a while. See you next mass shooting thread guys! Remember change nothing and hope the problem will go away.

The whole point of the teachers being armed is to stop mass shootings. Nice try though

dodderangler

It’s about time. Majority of these shootings happen in gun free zones. Look. The amount of shootings prevented by a citizen with open carry is pretty impressive. Plenty of videos on it aswell.
Highest gun crimes are always in these gun free zones.
As a gun owner myself I approve

jmayo

TeaBagMania wrote: »

wow, the responses from a non-gun culture country are comical

curious as to how many different types of weapons the keyboard commandos have fired in their life?

subbin to this thread

Ehh lots of countries have high gun ownership with freely available firearms, but only the US can have stupid psycho gun culture applied to it.

Manic Moran wrote: »

You make it sound like there aren’t already 9 states where students can carry legally, or that it hasn’t been a thing since 2007. (Granted, since the normal age limits apply, these students are invariably in colleges)

Or that at the before Columbine, kids taking their rifles to school (obviously not concealed carry) to go plinking with friends after class wasn’t a thing.

Didn't realise that, although given the screwed up nature of a country that allows a teenager access to very high end military hardware whilst he goes and fights for his country yet not get a drink on his return to the states it shouldn't really surprise me.

Manic Moran wrote: »

The problem is not the guns.

Well actually it is.

The fact you have virtually no control over what weapons anyone can get their hands on is the problem.

I actually like military history and weapons and have had the pleasure of firing a few things, but I don't see why ordinary people should be tooled up to such an extent that it looks like they are off to fight in Afghanistan.

Speaking of Florida, a number of years ago I was at the gun counter in a Wallmart in a midsize town in the centre of the state.
I and a couple of British guys stared in amazement at a guy that purchased what looked like 3 or 4 hundred rounds of ammo, various calibres.

One of the British guys was ex Royal Marine who commented that you would only be on long patrol/action with that amount of ammo.

I don't know if anyone has done research on this, but when did the US start turning towards weapons with big magazines ?
Was it the 70s or 80s ?

Have you ever wondered how come other countries can have high amount of gun ownership, even actual military assault weapons in peoples homes and yet have nowhere near the sheer volume of shootings as in the US ?

ohnonotgmail

dodderangler wrote: »

It’s about time. Majority of these shootings happen in gun free zones. Look. The amount of shootings prevented by a citizen with open carry is pretty impressive. Plenty of videos on it aswell.
Highest gun crimes are always in these gun free zones.
As a gun owner myself I approve

I dont suppsoe you have statistics to support that do you?

dodderangler

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I dont suppsoe you have statistics to support that do you?

As I said. Look it up. Look at the videos. YouTube. Google.
I’m not your feckin mother holding your hand princess.

steddyeddy

dodderangler wrote: »

The whole point of the teachers being armed is to stop mass shootings. Nice try though

Just for you D I'll tag back in. The point might be to stop mass shootings but as points go it's up there anti-vaxxers. It's a system of belief about guns being the solution rather than part of the problem.

The actual research in contrast to the belief shows that more guns don't mean less crime. The research states that in places with guns, gun violence is 6.8 times more likely to happen. You seem to believe the exact oppisite. Can you point me in the direction of research that says arming people will reduce shootings?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/more-guns-do-not-stop-more-crimes-evidence-shows/

More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows
More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?

Most of this research—and there have been several dozen peer-reviewed studies—punctures the idea that guns stop violence. In a 2015 study using data from the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for example, researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University reported that firearm assaults were 6.8 times more common in the states with the most guns versus those with the least. Also in 2015 a combined analysis of 15 different studies found that people who had access to firearms at home were nearly twice as likely to be murdered as people who did not.

friendlyfun

America is like some pariah state with its gun violence and unwillingness to tackle gun crime and mass shootings (seem to be weekly).

steddyeddy

dodderangler wrote: »

As I said. Look it up. Look at the videos. YouTube. Google.
I’m not your feckin mother holding your hand princess.

No you're not D. You're someone with a strong belief in guns. Who makes a statement based on that belief and can't back it up. The fact is what you're saying is wrong and you can't provide evidence that it isn't. I have provided research to say the exact opposite of what you're saying. You're representing the gun people here on this thread. I think you can do better than "look up videos princess".

super_furry

notobtuse wrote: »

Teachers who want to carry guns in districts that choose to join the program would have to undergo police-style training, psychiatric evaluation and drug screening.

That's a good idea. They should extend it out to anyone who wants to carry a gun.

ohnonotgmail

dodderangler wrote: »

As I said. Look it up. Look at the videos. YouTube. Google.
I’m not your feckin mother holding your hand princess.

Indeed you're not. You're just somebody spouting made up facts.

Deebles McBeebles

dodderangler wrote: »

As I said. Look it up. Look at the videos. YouTube. Google.
I’m not your feckin mother holding your hand princess.

Temper + gun owner = No problems at all!

dodderangler

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Temper + gun owner = No problems at all!

Oh yeah watch me go out and shoot everyone because some liberals on boards cried at me.
As I said look the stats up yourselves.