Silence of the Wolves - A Game of Werewolf GAME THREAD

tusk

TheSkunk wrote: »

Thoughts on this? Definitely should be majority decision though in the end

This would be my preference too.

sKeith

TheSkunk wrote: »

Hey guys, just on my lunch. Wrote notes out while I was reading over the last few pages which I hadn’t done before. Makes such a difference! Was speed reading before then having to go back to find things again, took forever.

Tusk - I actually don’t view you as my biggest challenger or a challenger at all really. My reasoning for having you on my initial FFA don’t stand anymore and from reading you’re posts I don’t think you’re coming across as a wolf. You’ve been on me from the start and I can’t seem to give you any reason to change your mind, I don’t think that alone makes you a wolf though.

Just on the idea you guys are talking about. Im thinking there’s one or at the most two wolves among us talkers. I don’t think more than one would be in those four. I like the idea by QB and Strawbs about leaving two to be mod killed.

Im not sure if you mean use the next two lynches on the two non voters but as someone said that gives wolves a chance to relax a bit for too long, while we get munched and possibly start tearing each other to threads if we mislynch villagers.

Could we lynch a talking poster today, gather more data, see if we get a mod kill then go for a non poster? Then next lynch go for a talker again and then low level? Just so we’re still gathering information from the lynches and doing FFAs and that.

Thoughts on this? Definitely should be majority decision though in the end

The main idea is that if it comes down to two villagers and one wolf, imagine the game being settled by cross, digi and a wolf. There is the added benifit, that cross or digi could be a wolf.

sKeith

Green&Red wrote: »

I'd like to hear what Petr, SKeith and Kolido have to say on my Strawbs argument?

1) I see your push, and don't think it is coming from a bad place.
2) I agree with a lot. Strawbs has been backing me up a lot, and seems to be backing up my read, but my reads, like on skunt could be flawed, and strawbs just add to conf bias. I do feel village, but i could be pocketed a bit.
3) I don't like her move off kitten onto kolido, after telling me to hold off moving onto kitten as she would join me on fixxxer. Not one bit.

4) afterwards, she says that I could have convinced / swayed her still to join fixxxer.
5) getting off kitten put my village lean in trouble, as well as myself, so I did what i should of done in that situation, I voted for my wolf read.


Can you get a strawbs ffa from before that lynch, I want to read her FFA and what she said about kitten/kolido/fixxer

Dublinandy2

tusk wrote: »

Is it really wise to base your early calls on previous games? Honest question, not sarcasm...

I'm basing it on experience and that's my only experience, so yes. If it turns out I'm wrong then I'll learn from this too.

Green&Red

sKeith wrote: »

1) I see your push, and don't think it is coming from a bad place.
2) I agree with a lot. Strawbs has been backing me up a lot, and seems to be backing up my read, but my reads, like on skunt could be flawed, and strawbs just add to conf bias. I do feel village, but i could be pocketed a bit.
3) I don't like her move off kitten onto kolido, after telling me to hold off moving onto kitten as she would join me on fixxxer. Not one bit.

4) afterwards, she says that I could have convinced / swayed her still to join fixxxer.
5) getting off kitten put my village lean in trouble, as well as myself, so I did what i should of done in that situation, I voted for my wolf read.


Can you get a strawbs ffa from before that lynch, I want to read her FFA and what she said about kitten/kolido/fixxer

No FFA, this is as close as she got

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

FFA

Kolido will be in there anyway. He completely ignored her jest post about wolf being 1st to post. Ignoring it would be something a roled player would do but seeing as there are no good roles.....

The other 2 I have decided on yet.

Yet she spent the day collating who voted for who.

I am telling ye, she is as dodgy as f**k

sKeith

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Right, Im going off the theory that there is at least a wolf in the first half of players to post (11). Pter was no12 so hes in the middle and whiplashy was the beginning of the second half of posters. So, the lucky 11 are -

Kolido
QB
Fixxxer
Loughc
Green&Red
DublinAndy
Strawberry
Kitten k
Tritium
Triceratops
Barney

Whiplashy & Kolido - whips 1st post she calls Kolido a wolf for being first to post on thread. It reads like its in jest (has smiley face) but Kolido doesnt acknowledge it in any way. Later, Kolido asks whip has she caught up on thread. She thanks his post and responds that she has. End of interactions.

Whiplashy & QB - no interactions.

Whiplashy & fixxxer - no interactions

Whiplashy & Loughc - no interactions

Whiplashy & Green - no direct interactions. TB asks whether the new/newish players are male or female. Green answers on behalf of clarabel and whippy saying he thinks they are ladies.

Whiplashy & DubAndy - no direct interaction. Tritium makes a post re skunk which Andy disagrees with but whiplashy agrees with.

Whiplashy & Strawbs - whiplashy asks who left to post and strawbs provides the info. Post thanks by whiplashy.

Whiplashy & Kitten k - no interactions.

Whiplashy & Tritium - Trit says a post by skunk is odd and whiplashy responds saying she agrees with Trit and it has spiked her interest. Trit thanks this post.

Whiplashy & Triceratops - asks the newish players incl whip if they are male or female. No reply from whiplashy but her gender given by green.

Whiplashy & Barney - Barney quotes her post saying that she and green are saying similar things.



Now the rest

Whiplashy & Pter - Pter replies to her regarding settings for posts per page.

Whiplashy & Clarabel - whips 2nd post of game re volume if posts is thanked Clarabel. No direct interactions.

Whiplashy & Succubus - whip is told succubus is one of the two left to post. She says she will be voting for one of these two. Whiplashy thanks succubus 1st post in game. No direct interactions.

Whiplashy & Tusk - one of the two left to post which whiplashy says she will be voting for. No direct interactions.

Whiplashy & SKeith - Keith notes that duffman has left Andy off his odd opening post comment even though both Andy and whiplashy said similar things. Skeith states in a different post that he has null read on whiplashy. Keith tells whiplashy that duffman has accused her due to her OP. Keith baffled by one of their sentences and whiplashy responds. She also believes Keith is village.

Whiplashy & Duffman - duffman finds her OP odd. Later rephrases to say it makes him think roled or wolf. No direct interactions.

Whiplashy & Skunk - skunks posts asking about info gained from munch. Whiplashy replies that it will depend on who they munch and what that player may have posted. Agrees with Trit later that one of skunks posts is odd and has spiked her interest.

No other interactions with the rest of players.


I think whiplashy may have been the first to be munched as shes pretty good at spotting things. Her track record of calling out wolves isnt bad at all so they wanted rid of her ASAP. This leads me to believe that the wolf team is not full of brand new players but probably a mix at least.



FFA

Kolido will be in there anyway. He completely ignored her jest post about wolf being 1st to post. Ignoring it would be something a roled player would do but seeing as there are no good roles.....

The other 2 I have decided on yet.

Its like a running commentary, no own thoughts, no reason for people to be angry at her for misreading people. #615

tusk

Green&Red wrote: »

No FFA, this is as close as she got





Yet she spent the day collating who voted for who.

I am telling ye, she is as dodgy as f**k

If we jumped on your bandwagon, and she turns out villager, you're basically the only option for the following lynch. You're willing to stand by this?

sKeith

tusk wrote: »

If we jumped on your bandwagon, and she turns out villager, you're basically the only option for the following lynch. You're willing to stand by this?

If you don't agree with him, start a competing bandwagon on who you would prefer, skunk wasn't it, then the village have to choose between them.


They also have to compete against the digi wagon which is leading at the moment.

sKeith

FYI, bandwagon starters are less likely to be wolves than the joiners.

quickbeam

Fair warning. I partook in this offer. I expect to be drunk very, very soon!!

Green&Red

quickbeam wrote: »

Fair warning. I partook in this offer. I expect to be drunk very, very soon!!

The Brewdog I hope?
Great offer


Who the f**k gets to go boozing at 3 on a Friday?
Teachers??

tusk

sKeith wrote: »

If you don't agree with him, start a competing bandwagon on who you would prefer, skunk wasn't it, then the village have to choose between them.


They also have to compete against the digi wagon which is leading at the moment.

Not saying I don't agree. The logic seems legitimate, and I like the passion.

I mentioned I'm open to being swayed from Skunk, so wherever I feel the best evidence points, I may jump.

At the moment, this is the most logical to me, however I'd like some more people to weigh in with experience.

Skunk also has the same view as me on leaving the low posters for the time being, so I'm currently up in the air tbh.

Triceratops Ballet

hey guys, just checking in to say I'm swamped!! I've been doing interviews all day and I'm min 3 pages behind where the thread currently is.

Kolido

Green&Red wrote: »

I'd like to hear what Petr, SKeith and Kolido have to say on my Strawbs argument?

2 of her arguements stand out to me as wolfish.

A wolf in the first 11 posters, thats fairly obvious due to law of average.

Her flimsy reason on me which she hasnt given up.

A wolf will cling to something and run with it as long as they can.

Add to that the switcharooing and I believe you got a wolf.

quickbeam

Green&Red wrote: »

The Brewdog I hope?
Great offer


Who the f**k gets to go boozing at 3 on a Friday?
Teachers??

Not 3pm. The hey have to chill first. But, in answer (fūckit!!), people who got fired from their jobs.

Green&Red

tusk wrote: »

If we jumped on your bandwagon, and she turns out villager, you're basically the only option for the following lynch. You're willing to stand by this?

It doesn’t necessarily mean that but yes I’m happy to offer myself for lynching if Strawbs turns good

Like I said, I’m convinced she’s a wolf. She’ll be in the backroom currently coming up with a plan to counteract, her text below is literally exactly what she was thinking/doing

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

And off they scurry to discuss what to say next or maybe they are waiting for a villager to keep the conversation alive and hope they can hide in numbers.

@QB lash your vote on her before you get steaming!

Get ****faced QB!

xxx

Barney92

Are those two things not in conflict?

Unless you're saying they ran with it as long as they could and then switched.

Kolido wrote: »

2 of her arguements stand out to me as wolfish.

A wolf in the first 11 posters, thats fairly obvious due to law of average.

Her flimsy reason on me which she hasnt given up.

A wolf will cling to something and run with it as long as they can.

Add to that the switcharooing and I believe you got a wolf.

quickbeam

Green&Red wrote: »

@QB lash your vote on her before you get steaming!

Have done.

Green&Red

quickbeam wrote: »

Not 3pm. The hey have to chill first. But, in answer (fūckit!!), people who got fired from their jobs.

Sad story

Been there, it’s no fun!

Green&Red

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Get ****faced QB!

xxx

I love the way you’re clearly reading but can’t come up with a defence

You lot do realise that I’ll be declared as FBI trainee - an NRV

Kolido

Barney92 wrote: »

Are those two things not in conflict?

Unless you're saying they ran with it as long as they could and then switched.

She is running with the 'I didnt reply to whippy' as long as she can. No one else seems to be talking about it now.

Green&Red

Green&Red wrote: »

I love the way you’re clearly reading but can’t come up with a defence

The wagonomics will be my defence. Tusk has a point. When I return NRV you could be in the firing line. If you are villager I’d be keeping a close eye right now on who’s moving what way. You may need it as your own defence later.

I said I suspect Kolido and fixer perhaps you’ll look into them when I’m gone?

sKeith

Barney92 wrote: »

Are those two things not in conflict?

Unless you're saying they ran with it as long as they could and then switched.

Strawbs could have bailed out due to being 1 of 3 on a village flipped wagon.
The exact reason I was under suspicion for being on 1 in 3 wagon, that's where the suspicion wil always fall, so getting out of dodge was wolfie. yes.
Then the wolves munched into that 1 in 3, i have to think this wagons never came into the wolves minds when choosing their lynch, as they ate one and cleared two, that's bad job wolves.

That's also a reason i'm having hard time seeing strawbs on a wolf team that'd do that, i thought shed cop that before munching trit.


So, i'm fence sitting this one for now. Hopefully will have made a decision by 18:30 though.

Barney92

Kolido wrote: »

She is running with the 'I didnt reply to whippy' as long as she can. No one else seems to be talking about it now.

I understand that. It's still part of my reasoning for having doubts about you, not major ones that must be said.

But if she's still banging that drum, how come she didn't keep banging the drum before rather than pull a switcheroo as you put it? You're having a go at her for both staying the course on someone and simultaneously for switching her mind elsewhere.

Barney92

Barney92 wrote: »

Are those two things not in conflict?

Unless you're saying they ran with it as long as they could and then switched.

Kitten then Kolido then kitten then Kolido. I’ve been completely open when I jump. Thought it would be fun having last minute votes. It’s only a game.

fixXxer

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

The wagonomics will be my defence. Tusk has a point. When I return NRV you could be in the firing line. If you are villager I’d be keeping a close eye right now on who’s moving what way. You may need it as your own defence later.

I said I suspect Kolido and fixxxer perhaps you’ll look into them when I’m gone?

FYP, I earned those X's :pac:

sKeith

Why has your play style gone and all changed itself since I have mentioned your play style?

fixXxer

Who you talking to chief?

sKeith

oh, kolido, didn't you notice it too?

sKeith

I did say i wished it would change soon, but i'm not in charge of any genies.

sKeith

And that's not a bad read on you, btw, just an observation of a change in play style. I think I ca work better with this new play style, keep it up.

Green&Red

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

The wagonomics will be my defence. Tusk has a point. When I return NRV you could be in the firing line. If you are villager I’d be keeping a close eye right now on who’s moving what way. You may need it as your own defence later.

I said I suspect Kolido and fixer perhaps you’ll look into them when I’m gone?

More than happy to be in the firing line, if I'm wrong I deserve to be.
In fact if you flip bad then I'm 100% going to be munched cause I've caught a wolf. So be it, I'll go with a smile on my face knowing I've nailed (Oh behave) a wolf

sKeith

Strawberry, who would you most like to race against? Who do you think would give you the best chance of survival if everyone was only allowed to vote between you and this other person?

Ectoplasm

This is is where I'm at for now. Going to do some ISOs but my head is melted.

Barney92 Village lean. Doing homework, checking votes. Doesn’t want to lynch low posters - coz of a teammate there? Raises good point about trying to find active wolves through votes etc.
Bounty Hunter Interesting reasoning on votes on Dandy. Did Sk or strawbs suspect Dandy at all? Don't agree with reads but slightly village.
Clarabel Need to iso here. Not getting much. Neutral for now.
crosstownk No posts but did vote. Suspicious.
Digital Solitude Posts about exams. Posts brief reads list. Neutral for now.
Dublinandy2 Appears clear based on votes. V strange FFA. Read back.
Duffman13 Neutral as neutral can be. No read which makes me suspicious
Ectoplasm Village
fixxxer Calling out Strawbs volunteering to die. Bit defensive with tusk. Still a bit shifty.
Green&Red Seems more game solvey now. Doing homework. Double check this work.
kitten_k RIP Kitten. Sorry but you looked dodgy to me.
Kolido Reading less wolfy today. Soft move to neutral.
Loughc Didn't vote, possible mod kill.
Pter Interactions all read village to me. Can't see anything wolfy here. Could be comfy in his pocket?
quickbeam Posts about how they'd play as wolf seemed a bit wolfy to me. Stays neutral.
sKeith Scares me a little this one. Moved onto kitten when Strawbs moves off and effectively ensures a kitten lynch BUT then Trit is munched. First thoughts are that he must be good. Tunnel alert here!Second thought has me conjuring a plot wherein by effectively 'clearing' me, he becomes cleared. Closer look needed when other reads are done. Strawbs effectively clears him for this - does she also clear me for same? Yes but with reservations. Skeith = Village for now. Finding a wolf would help me a lot.
Strawberry Milkshake Moving up my list. If wolf, changes off kitten (notably onto a non-wagon) so not to be challenged on lynching an NRV. Then munching one of those who did vote kitten to throw suspicion on the others who did maybe? Fixating on first people to post is odd but not necessarily lynch-worthy. Not sure but not comfortable with her as village at the moment.
Succubus_ Didn't vote, possible mod kill.
TheSkunk Soft defense of Strawbs raises flags but overall seems to be working hard so stays village lean for now.
Triceratops Ballet Defensive. Busy in work - RL happens but can also be an excuse.
tritium Died via munch, NRV.
tusk Suspects me. Is wrong. Asking questions though. Reads list in post 1216 strikes a dodgy note. Figure out why. Reads Digi as village after what, 3 posts???
Whiplashy
Notes: Look back at FFAs, declared votes and actual votes. ISO Clara, Duff, Strawbs, Tusk (and maybe sKeith you paranoid lunatic.)

Definitely Kolido. He’s kept himself to himself quite a bit even though he’s been posting. That make sense?

I’m taking my dog to the vet. Back when I can

tusk

Ectoplasm wrote: »

This is is where I'm at for now. Going to do some ISOs but my head is melted.

Barney92 Village lean. Doing homework, checking votes. Doesn’t want to lynch low posters - coz of a teammate there? Raises good point about trying to find active wolves through votes etc.
Bounty Hunter Interesting reasoning on votes on Dandy. Did Sk or strawbs suspect Dandy at all? Don't agree with reads but slightly village.
Clarabel Need to iso here. Not getting much. Neutral for now.
crosstownk No posts but did vote. Suspicious.
Digital Solitude Posts about exams. Posts brief reads list. Neutral for now.
Dublinandy2 Appears clear based on votes. V strange FFA. Read back.
Duffman13 Neutral as neutral can be. No read which makes me suspicious
Ectoplasm Village
fixxxer Calling out Strawbs volunteering to die. Bit defensive with tusk. Still a bit shifty.
Green&Red Seems more game solvey now. Doing homework. Double check this work.
kitten_k RIP Kitten. Sorry but you looked dodgy to me.
Kolido Reading less wolfy today. Soft move to neutral.
Loughc Didn't vote, possible mod kill.
Pter Interactions all read village to me. Can't see anything wolfy here. Could be comfy in his pocket?
quickbeam Posts about how they'd play as wolf seemed a bit wolfy to me. Stays neutral.
sKeith Scares me a little this one. Moved onto kitten when Strawbs moves off and effectively ensures a kitten lynch BUT then Trit is munched. First thoughts are that he must be good. Tunnel alert here!Second thought has me conjuring a plot wherein by effectively 'clearing' me, he becomes cleared. Closer look needed when other reads are done. Strawbs effectively clears him for this - does she also clear me for same? Yes but with reservations. Skeith = Village for now. Finding a wolf would help me a lot.
Strawberry Milkshake Moving up my list. If wolf, changes off kitten (notably onto a non-wagon) so not to be challenged on lynching an NRV. Then munching one of those who did vote kitten to throw suspicion on the others who did maybe? Fixating on first people to post is odd but not necessarily lynch-worthy. Not sure but not comfortable with her as village at the moment.
Succubus_ Didn't vote, possible mod kill.
TheSkunk Soft defense of Strawbs raises flags but overall seems to be working hard so stays village lean for now.
Triceratops Ballet Defensive. Busy in work - RL happens but can also be an excuse.
tritium Died via munch, NRV.
tusk Suspects me. Is wrong. Asking questions though. Reads list in post 1216 strikes a dodgy note. Figure out why. Reads Digi as village after what, 3 posts???
Whiplashy
Notes: Look back at FFAs, declared votes and actual votes. ISO Clara, Duff, Strawbs, Tusk (and maybe sKeith you paranoid lunatic.)

What specifically is striking you as dodgy with my reads? I kind of expected questions on that, which I'm happy to answer.

On the digi thing, my main point was that his reads were similar to mine. Basing my read only on that, and the fact I didn't actually remember seeing any other posts from him, I gave him a slight village lean, which I then called out as potential pocketing.

quickbeam

If it’s Strawbs v Kolido I’m voting Kolido.

Green&Red

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Definitely Kolido. He’s kept himself to himself quite a bit even though he’s been posting. That make sense?

I’m taking my dog to the vet. Back when I can

I'd be delighted if we can decide to run these two off against each other today.

Like I said I'm convinced Strawbs is a wolf so it could help clear Kolido to a certain extent if she turns wolf

tusk

quickbeam wrote: »

If it’s Strawbs v Kolido I’m voting Kolido.

Can you elaborate on why that is before you get sloshed?

Ectoplasm

tusk wrote: »

What specifically is striking you as dodgy with my reads? I kind of expected questions on that, which I'm happy to answer.

On the digi thing, my main point was that his reads were similar to mine. Basing my read only on that, and the fact I didn't actually remember seeing any other posts from him, I gave him a slight village lean, which I then called out as potential pocketing.

It's a gut feeling at the moment which is why I noted to go back and have a look. Sometimes something strikes me and on closer reading it resolves but sometimes closer reading makes me nail down what made me suspicious. I'll be happy to fill you in when I've iso'd your posts, which I'm reading back now.

quickbeam

tusk wrote: »

Can you elaborate on why that is before you get sloshed?

Kolido isn’t who I’ve voted for. And I’m not necessarily saying I agree with a race. But, if it was between the two, Kolido is the more wolfy. I had him in my FFA this morning based on yesterday’s reads.

Green&Red

quickbeam wrote: »

Kolido isn’t who I’ve voted for. And I’m not necessarily saying I agree with a race. But, if it was between the two, Kolido is the more wolfy. I had him in my FFA this morning based on yesterday’s reads.

You weren't convinced by my ISO of Strawbs?

tusk

quickbeam wrote: »

Kolido isn’t who I’ve voted for. And I’m not necessarily saying I agree with a race. But, if it was between the two, Kolido is the more wolfy. I had him in my FFA this morning based on yesterday’s reads.

Fair enough. Thanks for the exp.

Ectoplasm

Also QB, sorry about the crappy news work-wise. Hopefully bigger and far, far better things are coming your way.

quickbeam

Green&Red wrote: »

You weren't convinced by my ISO of Strawbs?

No. I’m leaning villager on you and think your accusations are in good faith. But I also think you’re on the wrong track. I could well be wrong and end up with egg on my face.

But Strawbs flip-flopping and being open about it doesn’t seem wolfy.

And our thinking the same way about lynching possible modkills, well, if she turns out wolf you can call me well and truly pocketed there.

fixXxer

Vote in for strawbs if it comes to that.

Bounty Hunter

For clarity sake, I voted for Strawbs around the time I last posted reads.

Baggly

Sorry to hear about the job qb. Things will turn around on that front and we are all here for support in the meantime, game aside.