Would you have unprotected sex with a person who has aids, even if takings meds

Pissartist

Personally I wouldn't why risk it.

troyzer

Pissartist wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't why risk it.

Cool.

One More Toy

I didn't know my hand started taking medicine

Gonad

Depends how hot they were

Also you wouldn’t have to worry about getting aids ...

Pissartist

Pissartist wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't why risk it.

Ah go on. Do us all a favour.

is_that_so

I thought this was about this piece of news. On topic, no.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/02/end-to-aids-in-sight-as-huge-study-finds-drugs-stop-hiv-transmission

Pissartist

is_that_so wrote: »

I thought this was about this piece of news. On topic, no.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/may/02/end-to-aids-in-sight-as-huge-study-finds-drugs-stop-hiv-transmission

Yes this is it, that he/she panti bliss has previously said he/she doesn't feel the need to tell people he/she has hiv anymore even if dating/having sex.

McMurphy

Pissartist wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't why risk it.

Not sure about someone with a walking aid (depends if they're an OAP) but I rode a girl with a hearing aid before, and didn't notice much difference tbh.

What risk you on about

Feisar

is_that_so

Pissartist wrote: »

Yes this is it, that he/she pants bliss has previously said he/she doesn't feel the need to tell people he has hiv anymore even if dating/having sex.

I suppose you could say if there is protection it's not that mandatory but it strikes me as something you should disclose anyway.

troyzer

Pissartist wrote: »

Yes this is it, that he/she panti bliss has previously said he/she doesn't feel the need to tell people he/she has hiv anymore even if dating/having sex.

If my partner had HIV but was taking this drug then why would I have any issue with not wrapping up? It's non transferable.

Victor

Realise that HIV isn't the only infection that you can get from unprotected sex.

HIV is not AIDs and vice versa.

HIV is chronic but treatable and very few people have AIDS. People confuse the two all the time, the vast majority of people with HIV don't develop AIDS with treatment.

Read the Swiss Statement on infection risk with a HIV+ person receiving treatment.

So my answer would be it depends.

It's an interesting question, if it's sincere.

It's a bit confusing as to whether the OP is really referring to HIV or AIDS. It's extremely unusual for anyone (except maybe IV drug users) to develop AIDS in Ireland in 2019, relative to developing HIV.

A new study has just been published, which someone may already have alluded to in a link above, saying that having sex with a person who is undergoing effective treatment for their HIV poses 'no risk' (their words) of transmission.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/03/health/hiv-transmission-gay-men-zero-risk-study-intl-scli/index.html

In fact, it's a lot safer having sex with a person who is undergoing effective treatment for HIV, than with someone who isn't.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades!

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

It's an interesting question, if it's sincere.

A new study has just been published, which someone may already have alluded to in a link above, saying that having sex with a person who is undergoing effective treatment for their HIV poses 'no risk' (their words) of transmission.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/03/health/hiv-transmission-gay-men-zero-risk-study-intl-scli/index.html

In fact, it's a lot safer having sex with a person who is undergoing effective treatment for HIV, than with someone who isn't.

Undiagnosed cases pose a far greater danger in terms of unprotected sex than a person being treated.

No.

touts

Let me say what most people are thinking:

Not a hope in hell! Are you ****ing nuts!!!

greencap

Nope.

Early cases should have been indefinitely quarantined. Would have saved many lives.

(i think maybe Russia did, early on)

Signore Fancy Pants

At one stage I wouldnt bang someone who had a weird looking bellybutton.

HIV/AIDS? I'll pass thanks.

RobbingBandit

Everyone has aids aids aids aids AIDS Come on everybody we got quilting to do.

touts

touts wrote: »

Let me say what most people are thinking:

Not a hope in hell! Are you ****ing nuts!!!

It's very sweet that people would think that, and not want to say it for hurting their feelings.

Of course, if someone had AIDS, it would be foolish to have unprotected sex with them. But AIDS is so incredibly rare in Western European populations, it's reasonable to suspect that the OP is thinking of HIV.

As Candie has just been emphasising, it's far safer to have sex with a person with HIV (whose treatment is effective), than to have sex with just about anyone else.

DEFTLEFTHAND

No, of course not.

WTF ?

Pissartist

Yes I should have said hiv and not aids, but I still wouldn't risk my life that the person is taking the drug, or that it's 100% safe.

TheValeyard

No.
Just would not want to take the risk of contracting a very serious virus that would require a life time of drugs to stop it from developing into AIDS.

EmmetSpiceland

It sounds like people are almost encouraging others to get HIV, like somehow it would be safer for everyone to have it in the long run

HIV has certainly undergone a major PR shift in the last ten years, that’s a good thing for those who have it as it removes the stigma from it but it seems to have eroded the fear young people should have about contracting it.

More education around safe sex and the consequences of unprotected sex at home and in the schools would be a better use of time and resources as opposed to time and money spent on telling us how HIV is fine now, nothing to worry about, only one pill a day and you’re not contagious.

Does anyone really trust another human to rigidly stick to their medication and never miss one, forget a couple or spend their money on something else instead of renewing their prescription?

Tacklebox

Personally I wouldn't chance it, because depending on health of the person on meds, supposedly the viral load can be detectable if say they get a flu or infectious condition.

I know a guy who has hiv he needs regular blood tests to make sure he's stable and undetectable, he had a bad chest infection two years ago and his viral load went above undetectable.

But he's been OK since, and very healthy.

Poor guy got it from a blood transfusion years ago.

biko

DEFTLEFTHAND

There's nothing cool about being HIV positive.

It's not trendy ok.


Practice safe sex.

rainbowdrop

Dale Doback wrote: »

At one stage I wouldnt bang someone who had a weird looking bellybutton.

HIV/AIDS? I'll pass thanks.

I was once with someone who had NO bellybutton. Your standards must be a lot higher than mine......

rainbowdrop

rainbowdrop wrote: »

I was once with someone who had NO bellybutton. Your standards must be a lot higher than mine......

Or you have a small dick and went to pocket the wrong hole.

Sonny noggs

Some people claim that Ireland isn't 'too politically correct'...we live in one fecked up world when people can claim that having sex with someone with HIV is safer.

Sonny noggs

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Some people claim that Ireland isn't 'too politically correct'...we live in one fecked up world when people can claim that having sex with someone with HIV is safer.

It’s pretty ridiculous alright. There’s no way I’d take that chance, even in a committed relationship, let alone something casual. WGAF if that upsets or offends anyone else?

suicide_circus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugchasing

Gimme A Pound

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There's nothing cool about being HIV positive.

It's not trendy ok.

And nobody said any of the above. Nor did anyone encourage people to contract it.

They did say it's technically safer to have unprotected sex with a person who is HIV positive and on meds, than to have unprotected sex with anyone else. Now while that may be true (well technically true) nobody should have unprotected sex with anyone besides their partner/fwb.

demanufactured

What an odd thread to start.....

McCrack

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

There's nothing cool about being HIV positive.

It's not trendy ok.


Practice safe sex.

Okay mom

ceadaoin.

troyzer wrote: »

If my partner had HIV but was taking this drug then why would I have any issue with not wrapping up? It's non transferable.

Plenty of reasons to have an "issue" with having unprotected sex with a person with hiv. Are they taking the medication correctly? Unless you check their viral load directly before sex you arent going to know if it is transferable or not, there are various things that can affect this.

The suggestion seems to be that anyone who wouldn't do it is the one who is being unreasonable which is ridiculous.

Brendan Delaney

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It sounds like people are almost encouraging others to get HIV, like somehow it would be safer for everyone to have it in the long run

Sure there can be no stigma about aids when everyone has it.

As for me, I wouldn't have sex with some who has a head cold. I won't be exposing myself to aids, sorry liberals.

BeerWolf

**** no.

orourkeda1977

My normal advice of "have a ****" is actually relevant here.

Gimme A Pound

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

It's very sweet that people would think that, and not want to say it for hurting their feelings.

Of course, if someone had AIDS, it would be foolish to have unprotected sex with them. But AIDS is so incredibly rare in Western European populations, it's reasonable to suspect that the OP is thinking of HIV.

As Candie has just been emphasising, it's far safer to have sex with a person with HIV (whose treatment is effective), than to have sex with just about anyone else.

But still, nearly everyone would not have unprotected sex with someone who is HIV positive.

It's a weird question to ask though, and apart from one faux confused post, nobody is saying it's unreasonable to choose not to have sex with someone who is HIV positive. We all know most wouldn't.

As for Rory/Panti, he shouldn't have unprotected sex with someone he's not close to. And anyone he does become close to, he should tell them he's HIV positive.

ceadaoin.

I suppose you could take that Prep drug also to minimise the chance of transmission. It's great for the pharmaceutical companies anyway to have people dependent on these drugs to stay well. Meanwhile anyone who can't afford them will continue to spread the virus and get sick eventually, in part due to the notion that it's not a big deal anymore.

KikiLaRue

I think a lot of people would be reluctant to have a fling with someone on that basis, or start a new relationship. but what if someone you had been seeing for a while and were falling in love with was diagnosed? Tougher decision then.

cameramonkey

Why would it be a problem if the infection could not be passed on?

EmmetSpiceland

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

It sounds like people are almost encouraging others to get HIV, like somehow it would be safer for everyone to have it in the long run

I definitely don't think anyone is saying that. Having said that, we could pretty much abolish HIV in a couple of generations if everyone just took HIV preventative drugs (Prep).

But ironically, it is the effectiveness of those drugs that have stopped HIV from being a very big deal these days. Any dramatic preventative measures simply aren't worth the expense.

HIV has certainly undergone a major PR shift in the last ten years, that’s a good thing for those who have it as it removes the stigma from it but it seems to have eroded the fear young people should have about contracting it.

(My emphasis)

Fear, perhaps. But lets put it in context.

I know a medical doctor who insists he would rather contract HIV than diabetes, any day. This makes perfect sense: diabetes is far more serious than HIV is nowadays, it has far greater implications than HIV does. Yet there isn't the same moral panic about diabetes, and the moralising and pearl-clutching about HIV seems deeply rooted in the sexual nature of most HIV transmissions.

Sonny noggs

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Some people claim that Ireland isn't 'too politically correct'...we live in one fecked up world when people can claim that having sex with someone with HIV is safer.

If they're taking the effective medication... it's not a matter of opinion, it's a scientific fact that it's safer.

Not just mildly safer.. it's not possible to contract HIV in that way. You'd have a same chance of getting HIV through eye contact.

EmmetSpiceland

Do you work for the company that provides the HIV drugs, ATNM?

Sardonicat

Pissartist wrote: »

Personally I wouldn't why risk it.

Eats shoots and leaves.

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

Why would it be a problem if the infection could not be passed on?

It can't?

cameramonkey

Deleted User wrote: »

It can't?

According to the medical profession if the infected person takes their medication then the viral load would be so small that it would be impossible to transmit the virus to another person.


So if the person is taking the medication their is no danger.

EmmetSpiceland

cameramonkey wrote: »

According to the medical profession if the infected person takes their medication then the viral load would be so small that it would be impossible to transmit the virus to another person.


So if the person is taking the medication their is no danger.

If. But what if they don’t?