MG ZS BEV, 44kWh

Doc el brown

Doc el brown wrote: »

I have taken a screen grab of the vrt calculation I did a few weeks ago and it is 439€. Are you saying it should be cheaper as the OMSP is wrong? Ill appeal it then too.

Thanks, and best of luck to you too. It will certainly stand out. Where are you based?

Screen grab

stesaurus

Doc el brown wrote: »

Screen grab

Yeah that's what I paid. There's no way it should be valued high enough to incur VRT but its because it's not on sale here.

I'm in Gorey but spend a lot of time in Dublin.

Doc el brown

stesaurus wrote: »

Yeah that's what I paid. There's no way it should be valued high enough to incur VRT but its because it's not on sale here.

I'm in Gorey but spend a lot of time in Dublin.

Ok well I will question it too and hopefully they will look at it.
Where will you get yours serviced?

I'm in west Wicklow

stesaurus

Doc el brown wrote: »

Ok well I will question it too and hopefully they will look at it.
Where will you get yours serviced?

I'm in west Wicklow

SERE in Belfast seems a good option. Hopefully with the MG5 out soon they'll finally arrange a dealership in the South.

Doc el brown

stesaurus wrote: »

SERE in Belfast seems a good option. Hopefully with the MG5 out soon they'll finally arrange a dealership in the South.

Hopefully yes. I was in SERE a few weeks ago to test drive the zs. They have a huge operation there and they are really sound folks too.

Doc el brown

KCross wrote: »

The 6 month requirement to avoid VAT will be based on the date on the invoice that you produce when at the VRT

Hi KCross,
Is this the date you bought the car, so it has to be more than 6 months old when you bought it in the UK? Thats my understanding.
The car I bought was registered 31st Jan 2020 which is more than 6 months. And I bought it in the middle of August which is stated on the receipt from the dealer. I will avoid the duty.

Doc el brown

Mg coming to frank keane motors

https://www.breakingnews.ie/lifestyle/mg-returns-to-ireland-with-electric-crossover-1027237.html

stesaurus

Doc el brown wrote: »

Mg coming to frank keane motors

https://www.breakingnews.ie/lifestyle/mg-returns-to-ireland-with-electric-crossover-1027237.html

Must give them a ring Monday to book in for a service!

Doc el brown

stesaurus wrote: »

Must give them a ring Monday to book in for a service!

And a BMS update for me haha

BigAl81

Cool!!

Interesting bit in that article as well....

"It will be followed in the next few months by the MG 5 EV Sportswagon estate, which comes with a bigger 52.4kWh battery and a claimed WLTP range of 345km"

irishgrover

BigAl81 wrote:

"It will be followed in the next few months by the MG 5 EV Sportswagon estate, which comes with a bigger 52.4kWh battery and a claimed WLTP range of 345km"

I've seen a couple of reviews and they are all very positive. An ev estate is exactly the car I want.
But, and a big But, its missing all the driver assists, no mg drive, no lane assist, no adaptive cruise control....these omissions make it of very limited appeal.

stesaurus

irishgrover wrote: »

I've seen a couple of reviews and they are all very positive. An ev estate is exactly the car I want.
But, and a big But, its missing all the driver assists, no mg drive, no lane assist, no adaptive cruise control....these omissions make it of very limited appeal.

The MG5 isn't a new model. It's basically a re-badged Roewe that's 3/4 years old.
It will be priced similar to the ZS if UK is anything to go by. So you get extra range over the ZS but missing some of the newer features. Still going to be hard to beat value wise.

k123456

stesaurus wrote: »

Must give them a ring Monday to book in for a service!

Let us know, if they have reservations dealing with a UK MG import..I hope they wont

Doc el brown

k123456 wrote: »

Let us know, if they have reservations dealing with a UK MG import..I hope they wont

I cant see them having a problem taking a booking if the car is an import, but what I can envisage is that they wont have the training and knowledge of how to fix issues if any arise. I can first hand report that this is an issue with many MG service centers in the UK inc Belfast. There is also a European (mainly UK input) MG ZS EV forum I follow where this is widely reported too.

ba_barabus

Doc el brown wrote: »

I cant see them having a problem taking a booking if the car is an import, but what I can envisage is that they wont have the training and knowledge of how to fix issues if any arise. I can first hand report that this is an issue with many MG service centers in the UK inc Belfast. There is also a European (mainly UK input) MG ZS EV forum I follow where this is widely reported too.

This has been the experience of MG customers since they returned to the UK in 2011. A pity they haven't changed. Worth checking around the floor underneath where they cut it to fit the battery pack. A known rust spot.

Idbatterim

the ZS here is from 29k, is that after grants? fair bit cheaper in the uk if so...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mg-zs-ev-gets-extended-discount-offer-following-record-sales#:~:text=MG%20has%20extended%20its%20attractive,price%20down%20to%20%C2%A323%2C495.

Doc el brown

Idbatterim wrote: »

the ZS here is from 29k, is that after grants? fair bit cheaper in the uk if so...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mg-zs-ev-gets-extended-discount-offer-following-record-sales#:~:text=MG%20has%20extended%20its%20attractive,price%20down%20to%20%C2%A323%2C495.

Dont you know that the irish version will probably be stripped down, and we will get the paddy spec. Thats why its prob cheaper

Round Cable

I can see why they waited until the end of the transition period to begin selling here. A low mileage top of the range one can be bought from the UK for €24k, while the lower spec one here will be €29k!

liamog

Given who the importer is, I suspect the reason Frank Keane are picking up the MG Import licence is due to Mitsubishi leaving the market, let's just say they have a gap in the group.

liamog

Article from electrive https://www.electrive.com/2020/11/11/mg-brings-evs-to-ireland-australia-new-zealand/

MG Motor is expanding into Ireland in the company’s process of expansion in Europe. In Ireland, the company will only be offering plug-in models. MG has also officially launched its first ZS EV in Australia and New Zealand.

In Ireland, all three electric models will be sold starting this month. These are the all-electric MG ZS EV and new MG5 EV, as well as the plug-in hybrid MG HS Plug-in. The ZS EV will be introduced first. MG is partnering with the Irish distributor Franck Keane Group to bring electric MGs to Ireland.

Thierry12

liamog wrote: »

Article from electrive https://www.electrive.com/2020/11/11/mg-brings-evs-to-ireland-australia-new-zealand/

Excellent news

MG5 EV looks brill, will definitely look at that

Estate
156bhp
52.5kWh battery
340km
0-100km/h 7.5 secs

Kramer

Thierry12 wrote: »

Excellent news

MG5 EV looks brill, will definitely look at that

Estate
156bhp
52.5kWh battery
340km
0-100km/h 7.5 secs

0-100 is quite slow though, but it does seem quite decent value.

Kramer

Kramer wrote: »

0-100 is quite slow though, but it does seem quite decent value.

That's not slow really not for 150 Hp, most average diesels are 9-12 seconds.

So is the generator available then like the Rex ?

Thierry12

Kramer wrote: »

0-100 is quite slow though, but it does seem quite decent value.

Sure

If your driving a Tesla or Porsche it is

If you drive a Dacia like most MG owners its a rocket

BuzzFish

Thierry12 wrote: »

If you drive a Dacia like most MG owners its a rocket

Moved from BMW 330e to MGZS EV and couldn't be happier.

Thierry12

BuzzFish wrote: »

Moved from BMW 330e to MGZS EV and couldn't be happier.

Nice

Like all hybrid's it the worst of both world's with the 330e, only has 100bhp or so and over 10s to 60 in EV mode, needs that little 3 cylinder engine roaring hard to get anywhere near the ZS EV 0-60 of 7.6 secs with it's 353nm and 143bhp

Did you look at the MG HS hyrbid or wanted full EV?

BuzzFish

Thierry12 wrote: »

Nice

Like all hybrid's it the worst of both world's with the 330e, only has 100bhp or so and over 10s to 60 in EV mode, needs that little 3 cylinder engine roaring hard to get anywhere near the ZS EV 0-60 of 7.6 secs with it's 353nm and 143bhp

Did you look at the MG HS hyrbid or wanted full EV?

You don't know what you're talking about. The 330e does not have a "little 3 cylinder" engine.

My reply was more that it's not Dacia drivers that would drive the MG. The build quality of the MG is superb and the technology on board leaves the 330e for dead with MG pilot, lane keeping, cross traffic and pedestrian emergency braking etc.

stesaurus

BuzzFish wrote: »

Moved from BMW 330e to MGZS EV and couldn't be happier.

Haha snap!

Thierry12

BuzzFish wrote: »

You don't know what you're talking about. The 330e does not have a "little 3 cylinder" engine.

My reply was more that it's not Dacia drivers that would drive the MG. The build quality of the MG is superb and the technology on board leaves the 330e for dead with MG pilot, lane keeping, cross traffic and pedestrian emergency braking etc.

My bad I was confusing it with the 225xe which has the 1.5l 3 pot from i8

MG is aimed at the Dacia market, not BMW

Its an affordable Chinese car. didn't mean and offence

Glad you like it, will be looking myself

zg3409

From book of faces:

Related to MG ZS only if you are collecting or recently picked one up.

There was a software update released for the BMS (Battery Management System) in October which introduced a bug. A further update a month or so ago has failed to remediate properly. The crux is that the battery pack is not balancing correctly and people are seeing a huge hit to their range. Balancing charge is also taking 7hrs to complete

Only this week MG have released a further update to fix this. If you want to see if you are affected, fully charge the car, check the motor details in the main screen and you should see 455v....not 425/430ish.

Not sure how up to speed the Irish dealers are on this so be mindful. My own has software from August so not affected but I see a lot of chatter on the UK MG EV owners page and some pretty annoyed people.

MG have been excellent with their continued updates to date but this one have obviously gone wrong for them.

Kramer

Entertaining review from Stavros :pac:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSUd0IWztDQ

Efitz2019

Is it possible to order one of these with a digital speedometer? Or a speedometer with kilometres per hour

ba_barabus

Efitz2019 wrote: »

Is it possible to order one of these with a digital speedometer? Or a speedometer with kilometres per hour

Any I've been in have had MPH clocks but they're probably UK stock to begin with.

SBSwords

Went to have a look at one of these in the flesh today. Considering making the move to full EV after having a 2014 Outlander Phev for the last 2.5 years.

Was offered an €10k trade in value against the MG - which I thought was ok without any haggling.

First impressions - Very impressed naturally a little smaller than the outlander . Nice amount of toys and nice finish.

My biggest issue looks to be charging. Even tho I already have a charger it’s a type 1 tethered - the MG wants a type 2. I’m not going to qualify for another grant as already availed. I also note theres no ability to schedule a delayed start charge on the MG. Any suggestions for a reasonably priced new charger?

peposhi

SBSwords wrote: »

Went to have a look at one of these in the flesh today. Considering making the move to full EV after having a 2014 Outlander Phev for the last 2.5 years.

Was offered an €10k trade in value against the MG - which I thought was ok without any haggling.

First impressions - Very impressed naturally a little smaller than the outlander . Nice amount of toys and nice finish.

My biggest issue looks to be charging. Even tho I already have a charger it’s a type 1 tethered - the MG wants a type 2. I’m not going to qualify for another grant as already availed. I also note theres no ability to schedule a delayed start charge on the MG. Any suggestions for a reasonably priced new charger?

What charger do you use? Many of them can be converted to untethered or have the cable replace with Type 2...
besides there was a brand new EO mini charger for sale on the EV Owners Facebook page for €400 which is a perfect price (untethered). I can dig it for you if you want

SBSwords

peposhi wrote: »

What charger do you use? Many of them can be converted to untethered or have the cable replace with Type 2...
besides there was a brand new EO mini charger for sale on the EV Owners Facebook page for €400 which is a perfect price (untethered). I can dig it for you if you want

It’s a charge master.

Thanks found that EO mini charger on Facebook and did a quick google - it doesn’t look to allow charge scheduling as the app only comes with the mini pro version.

In two minds on changing.. anyone changed from the outlander to one of these?

stimpson

What miles is on the outlander? I would have thought it would fetch more than that privately. U.K. imports have gone up since Brexit.

SBSwords

stimpson wrote: »

What miles is on the outlander? I would have thought it would fetch more than that privately. U.K. imports have gone up since Brexit.

I brought it in from UK about 2.5yrs ago. It’s got just over 130,000miles on the clock. I’ve only put about 8,000 on it since I bought it.

unkel

stimpson wrote: »

What miles is on the outlander? I would have thought it would fetch more than that privately. U.K. imports have gone up since Brexit.

My thoughts too. Cheapest 2014 on AutoTrader in the UK is £7k, but they are worth a lot more over here, that was even the case before Brexit

innrain

SBSwords wrote: »

My biggest issue looks to be charging. Even tho I already have a charger it’s a type 1 tethered - the MG wants a type 2. I’m not going to qualify for another grant as already availed. I also note theres no ability to schedule a delayed start charge on the MG. Any suggestions for a reasonably priced new charger?

You'll have to change to type 2 irrespective of the BEV you choose. None of the modern EVs are on the type 1. Do you know what is the max current of your installation at the moment? If your on 16A you may need to upgrade the wiring for 32A.

SBSwords

innrain wrote: »

You'll have to change to type 2 irrespective of the BEV you choose. None of the modern EVs are on the type 1. Do you know what is the max current of your installation at the moment? If your on 16A you may need to upgrade the wiring for 32A.

Current charger is 16A with a 4 square cable.

SBSwords

unkel wrote: »

My thoughts too. Cheapest 2014 on AutoTrader in the UK is £7k, but they are worth a lot more over here, that was even the case before Brexit

Based on the assumption my existing charger would work They were offering a pre reg model they had with a cost to change of €21.5k.

stimpson

SBSwords wrote: »

Based on the assumption my existing charger would work They were offering a pre reg model they had with a cost to change of €21.5k.

I’m not being funny, but if you’ve only driven 8000 miles in 2.5 years, why would you drop €20K on a new car? Your €20K will be eaten by depreciation.

Moonbeam

you will need google translate but https://mgmotor.eu/nn-NO/model/zs-ev
I am seriously considering it , it looks good as does the cost but I am not familiar with modern MG cars.
Anyone have one yet?

irishgrover

Moonbeam wrote: »

you will need google translate but https://mgmotor.eu/nn-NO/model/zs-ev
I am seriously considering it , it looks good as does the cost but I am not familiar with modern MG cars.
Anyone have one yet?

here ya go
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057978477


EDIT: Just in case anyone is confused about this post and the one immediately previous - the previous poster, in a new thread, was asking about the MG and I was pointing him towards this thread. Assume a mod then moved both here.

https://www.electrive.net/2021/10/07/mg-zeigt-facelift-des-zs-ev/

german text.

facelift and battery size increase to 50,3kwh with 70 optional.

faster ac charging. dc charging from 30 to 80% in 30 minutes.

looks more korean than before.

charging port looks better than before.

MG Marvel specifications and MG5 improvements mentioned too.

metroburgers

Have to say I'm pretty annoyed that you can pick up a new MG ZS (Long Range & Exclusive) for only 32,340e (including the 3500e grant). Paid 7 grand more than this, around the same time last year.

allinthehead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122569856#Comment_122569856

That's great value, good to see ev's becoming more affordable.

Grumpypants

There is a total rework coming early next year. Built on the EV framework that the MG4 is on. The petrol and hybrid ones will stick to the frame it's on now but will get a new look too.

So I think they are flogging off inventory now.