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  • Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Arsenium


    py wrote: »
    Legs were tired/heavy today after the 3 back to back runs and the cycle commuting. No running/cycling today and then LSR in the morning. Hope first week is going well for everyone.


    Enjoying it so far. Funnily enough I did notice a slight heaviness half way through yesterdays run which I thought odd given the pace but I guess its the accumulation.

    One thing that annoyed me, I changed the watch to miles from KMs, distances and pace were fine....laps were still set at KM. So after every 0.6 miles the watch beeped with the KM pace. Sorted now though. :-)


    8m in the morning. Looking forward to it, with an early start.


  • Registered Users Posts: 212 ✭✭Prospector1989


    Arsenium wrote: »
    Enjoying it so far. Funnily enough I did notice a slight heaviness half way through yesterdays run which I thought odd given the pace but I guess its the accumulation.

    One thing that annoyed me, I changed the watch to miles from KMs, distances and pace were fine....laps were still set at KM. So after every 0.6 miles the watch beeped with the KM pace. Sorted now though. :-)


    8m in the morning. Looking forward to it, with an early start.

    Had this issue as well the other day which made for an interesting run. Distance was tracking in miles but pace was still in KMs, :o didn't take long to realise. Sorted it fully for the next run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,401 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Fair play to all you sticking with your plans, el scorchio outside today, slightly fearful of my own run shortly. Factor 50 and out !

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Sorry to hear about that Bananaleaf, sounds pretty distressing. Hope all is ok now. Unforeseen events will always get in the way of a run or two, so don't worry about the missed run.

    I can definitely sympathise with the feeling of missing a run - I've been on the shelf 4 days due to a badly cut foot and I'm climbing the walls :( Should be good to go tomorrow though.

    If it helps to clear your head, two or three easy miles tomorrow with a few strides would be fine as a bit of pre-race preparation before Friday. Rest is equally fine though - whatever suits.
    coogy wrote: »
    Hey Bananaleaf, I'm sorry to hear about what you're going through and I know how frustrating is feels when you miss a training run, especially so early on in the plan. As Mr. Guappa said, life can get in the way which can be expected from from time to time so don't beat yourself up about it!

    Hopefully, you can put it all behind you once you get back out there again!

    Thank you for your lovely posts.

    I'm still feeling a bit off - I can't quite shake that nervous feeling in my gut, but all is good so I just need to get on with things.

    I did my club race this evening. I missed out on a PB by 5 SECONDS!!! :rolleyes: But, do you know what? I'm actually glad I didn't PB because Strava only recorded the race as 4.99km so it wouldn't have registered as a PB anyway and that would have been far more frustrating than the current situation :pac:

    I always admire people who are able to publish fantastic race reports pretty much right after they're done. At the moment my recollection of the race is: I ran over the start mat.
    1st km: Oh God.
    2nd km: Oh Jesus.
    3rd km: I don't want to be here.
    4th km: I can't breathe.
    5th km: I can't stop but I feel like I can't go on.

    I'll try think of something better in time for my running log post on Sunday.

    Hope everyone's week is going well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭Unknownability


    What a lovely morning, got up early and got the 8 miles out of the way.

    Which turns out is my second longest run ever, did it at 8'15 m/m, which was faster than I intended and average heart beat was 158.

    Hope everyone enjoys it today.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Rega


    What a lovely morning, got up early and got the 8 miles out of the way.

    Which turns out is my second longest run ever, did it at 8'15 m/m, which was faster than I intended and average heart beat was 158.

    Hope everyone enjoys it today.

    Thunder, lightning and lashing rain here in Kilkenny. Think I'll leave my run until this evening!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Rega wrote: »
    Thunder, lightning and lashing rain here in Kilkenny. Think I'll leave my run until this evening!

    Same here :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭Unknownability


    Rega wrote: »
    Thunder, lightning and lashing rain here in Kilkenny. Think I'll leave my run until this evening!

    I actually heard thunder just as I was getting into the shower, but not rain materialized. I'm just outside Athlone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭Sorbet


    What a lovely morning, got up early and got the 8 miles out of the way.

    Which turns out is my second longest run ever, did it at 8'15 m/m, which was faster than I intended and average heart beat was 158.

    Hope everyone enjoys it today.

    Week one done :). I know it's only the first week but I found it fantastic that the only thing I had to do was go out and run at a predetermined pace - thanks so much to Mr.Guappa, Huzzah! and ReeReeG for doing all the hard work - much appreciated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 161 ✭✭eabha19


    Week one done - just back from my long run at 12.7 miles (not running long runs to plan as had started upping my mileage a bit early). Started just after a thunder storm and downpour and weather was actually perfect for the 2 plus hours. Managed to squeeze in the extra run to follow the boards plan but my strides on Wednesday were 300m strides rather than 50 m as that was our club track session. I will try get into following the plan more closely as we go on but don't want to miss out too much on my club running and the socialising that goes with it! Off to Majorca this evening - it's super hot there so I'm just hoping I can manage to get out early a few mornings for a couple of 3 milers and get back on plan when I come back. 27miles in total for the week. My ankle still sore on long runs - the rest in Spain may be no harm. Well done all on week 1 completed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    What a lovely morning, got up early and got the 8 miles out of the way.

    Which turns out is my second longest run ever, did it at 8'15 m/m, which was faster than I intended and average heart beat was 158.

    Hope everyone enjoys it today.

    I don't suppose you mis-typed that and it's supposed to read 9:15m/mile? You're very fast, but as you mention this was your second longest run ever, so you need to build endurance. Keep the long runs a good minute slower than today and you'll build that endurance


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭ReeReeG


    Bananaleaf wrote:
    I always admire people who are able to publish fantastic race reports pretty much right after they're done. At the moment my recollection of the race is: I ran over the start mat. 1st km: Oh God. 2nd km: Oh Jesus. 3rd km: I don't want to be here. 4th km: I can't breathe. 5th km: I can't stop but I feel like I can't go on.


    This is the perfect description of a 5k race, sounds like you ran it right:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Sorbet wrote: »
    Week one done :). I know it's only the first week but I found it fantastic that the only thing I had to do was go out and run at a predetermined pace - thanks so much to Mr.Guappa, Huzzah! and ReeReeG for doing all the hard work - much appreciated.

    Thanks very much! Nice job this week too, you've done a great job of committing to the easy paces, well done!


  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭Unknownability


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    I don't suppose you mis-typed that and it's supposed to read 9:15m/mile? You're very fast, but as you mention this was your second longest run ever, so you need to build endurance. Keep the long runs a good minute slower than today and you'll build that endurance

    Thanks for the feedback.

    No typo, I did try and run for 8'30 miles but couldn't seem to get into a stride at that pace.

    I will be committing more to the paces after Monday if I'm lucky enough to get an entry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Arsenium


    Long one in the bag this morning. Went with an old training mate of mine that hasnt been around for a while and it was great to catch up. Slow runs always ensure you have enough breath to have a proper conversation and it flies by in company. I have been working on him to see about getting a place Monday morning but I dont think I'm having much joy :-)



    Still, he's committed to coming on most of the long runs at least which is great.



    8 miles at 9:35 per mile. Tried and tried to get it to 9:45 but it just kept sneaking back.



    First week gone just like that ! 17 to go.



    Does anyone have any idea how many people returned their entries? I know 2 people that have done it. With 2500 extra places being made available I wonder how many extra on top of that will be available Monday morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Thanks for the feedback.

    No typo, I did try and run for 8'30 miles but couldn't seem to get into a stride at that pace.

    I will be committing more to the paces after Monday if I'm lucky enough to get an entry.

    Apologies for singling you out - after a whole week spent looking at people running too fast on strava it just happened to be your post which finally tipped me over the edge :)

    Fingers crossed for Monday!


  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Soulsun


    Mr Guappa
    I would welcome some feedback on my paces from strava
    First week HH DCM training went well and injury free.
    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭Unknownability


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Apologies for singling you out - after a whole week spent looking at people running too fast on strava it just happened to be your post which finally tipped me over the edge :)

    Fingers crossed for Monday!

    No problem :p, I use Garmin is that compatible with strava?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Soulsun wrote: »
    Mr Guappa
    I would welcome some feedback on my paces from strava
    First week HH DCM training went well and injury free.
    Cheers

    Well done this week. I think you can afford to take the paces a good bit easier, maybe nudge the easy runs above 11:20 mins/mi, and the long runs a bit easier than that. I also notice you run hilly enough routes regularly - nothing at all wrong with that if it's what's convenient and you're used to it, but you're average pace can be slower again on hilly days. Also, be conscious of the need to take it easier on warmer days too.

    I would like to see a more up-to-date race time though (apologies if I've missed one), as this would give us a better indicator of your current level. Do you have any races pencilled in during the plan?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    No problem :p, I use Garmin is that compatible with strava?

    Yeah it is. I've a Garmin watch and when I upload a run to Garmin Connect it automatically pops into Strava too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭skyblue46


    Thanks for the feedback.

    No typo, I did try and run for 8'30 miles but couldn't seem to get into a stride at that pace.

    I will be committing more to the paces after Monday if I'm lucky enough to get an entry.

    As Mr G said you undoubtedly have to potential to run fast but endurance building is a necessity if you do get a marathon entry. Even 8:30 pace would be too fast. I wouldn't go lower than 9 mins or even 9:30 for now. Without knowing your max and resting HR I can't be very specific about your ranges but it is very unlikely that 157 falls into the Endurance zone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭coogy


    ReeReeG wrote: »
    This is the perfect description of a 5k race, sounds like you ran it right:)

    I think we have a contender for race report of the year lol!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,793 ✭✭✭rizzee


    Week 1

    Mon - 5km
    Tues - 14km walk
    Wed - /
    Thurs - 5km
    Friday - /
    Sat - 10km
    Sun - Plan on Sugarloaf/Glendalough weather dependant, if not an easy 5/6km


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    coogy wrote: »
    I think we have a contender for race report of the year lol!

    I'm reasonably sure I've never laughed so much at a race report before :D
    Twas spot on, if you ask me! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    I raced Friday (5 miler) and this morning (parkrun) so I'm gonna put my LSR off until tomorrow. I think it's the lesser of two evils rather than trying to cram it in today.
    I also plan to slow down my easy pace as currently it doesn't feel "easy".
    Managing pace is trickier for me as I train in undulating terrain (hilly) so either I'm going way too slow (uphill) or way too fast (downhill) so I have to try to manage it a bit more by feel which is going to be a work in progress.


  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Soulsun


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Well done this week. I think you can afford to take the paces a good bit easier, maybe nudge the easy runs above 11:20 mins/mi, and the long runs a bit easier than that. I also notice you run hilly enough routes regularly - nothing at all wrong with that if it's what's convenient and you're used to it, but you're average pace can be slower again on hilly days. Also, be conscious of the need to take it easier on warmer days too.

    I would like to see a more up-to-date race time though (apologies if I've missed one), as this would give us a better indicator of your current level. Do you have any races pencilled in during the plan?

    Hi Guappa
    Thanks for the feedback
    Yes the local area is indeed hilly and I suppose convenient.
    Regarding race time I'm happy to finish between 4 to 5 hours.
    I have no races planned yet and would welcome your thoughts on what to book.
    Based in Dublin so ideally Dublin based race.
    Also thanks so much for all your help to date.
    And the Strava group is a excellent support too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭pd79


    Soulsun wrote: »
    Hi Guappa
    Thanks for the feedback
    Yes the local area is indeed hilly and I suppose convenient.
    Regarding race time I'm happy to finish between 4 to 5 hours.
    I have no races planned yet and would welcome your thoughts on what to book.
    Based in Dublin so ideally Dublin based race.
    Also thanks so much for all your help to date.
    And the Strava group is a excellent support too.

    The race series 10K 10 mile and hm are great, I think €55 for the three


  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭Unknownability


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    Yeah it is. I've a Garmin watch and when I upload a run to Garmin Connect it automatically pops into Strava too.

    Thanks will download and try join later.


  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Soulsun


    pd79 wrote: »
    The race series 10K 10 mile and hm are great, I think €55 for the three

    Cheers pd
    booked the 10m and half....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Soulsun wrote: »
    Cheers pd
    booked the 10m and half....

    Great - they’re built into the plans and the race series races also provide good opportunities to meet up.


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