VW ID.3

dmcg90

Sam the Sham wrote: »

Just went shopping for an ID.3 today at a Dublin dealer.

Is there any actual haggling possible with this car? Sales person said the prices are the prices, but they would say that...

I'm wondering how to to approach things. I'd like to get a Family mostly for safety features (proactive occupant protection, rear camera, better headlights), but the 5-6K difference from the Life seems hard to justify.

I'm starting to feel bad I only got a couple hundred off my tour now 😂. TBF I got a cracking locked-in trade in price for my current car so I'm happy enough. Western Motors up in Drogheda were great to work with, wasn't happy with any of the offers from Dublin dealers I got in contact with in all fairness. Some were just unpleasant to work with too.

DrPhilG

dmcg90 wrote: »

I'm starting to feel bad I only got a couple hundred off my tour now 😂. TBF I got a cracking locked-in trade in price for my current car so I'm happy enough.

Discount and trade in value are essentially the same thing.

They'll always give you a lowball trade offer, but they'll use their discretionary discount to make it look better to lure you in.

I was getting €14k for my i3 from a few dealers but they described it as €16k because they topped it up via discount.

remoteboy

hogan86 wrote: »

Congrats, are you waiting for the 212 reg ??

What sort of price did they offer the family for? They want €2900 more for the family over the style for me and only big difference i can see is the reverse camera.

What colour did you get ?

I’be asked for the stonewashed blue. Waiting for confirmation that it’s one of the colours they have in stock.

The camera is definitely the major difference. Went for the Family cos wanted the sunroof and the camera, otherwise would have gone for Business and knocked the sunroof on the head. Probably should have saved 5k and just went for the Life option 😂

Price came in under 37k after grant including metallic paint. Goal was to keep payments under €400 pm so happy enough with that. I’m not much of a haggler.

Liam2021

Sam the Sham wrote: »

Just went shopping for an ID.3 today at a Dublin dealer.

Is there any actual haggling possible with this car? Sales person said the prices are the prices, but they would say that...

I'm wondering how to to approach things. I'd like to get a Family mostly for safety features (proactive occupant protection, rear camera, better headlights), but the 5-6K difference from the Life seems hard to justify.

Yes I couldn't deal with the Dublin dealers. Ended up with Bradys in Cavan for my id4, can't fault their customer service and gave me a great deal on my trade in.

ewj1978

robbie_63 wrote: »

Hi All,

Just checking has anyone bought an ID3 on PCP?

I'm just working out numbers and when I do the online calc on VW, they list the base car as €39910 which seems to be excluding the SEAI Grants & VRT Relief?

It's working out cheaper for me to do a PCP at 0% for 3 years then a short loan for the remaining balance at the end ,
Compared to just one large car loan at 5%-6%

Just curious as to why the Grants are not included on the PCP Calculation?

Cheers

the online calculator is a load of ****e. I emailed all the dealers ( I do mean all the dealers) told them what spec and what deposit.
12-15 responded. Put it all on a spreadsheet.

Sam the Sham wrote: »

Just went shopping for an ID.3 today at a Dublin dealer.

Is there any actual haggling possible with this car? Sales person said the prices are the prices, but they would say that...

I'm wondering how to to approach things. I'd like to get a Family mostly for safety features (proactive occupant protection, rear camera, better headlights), but the 5-6K difference from the Life seems hard to justify.

As above email them all. If they want your business they'll trade. Best quotes I got were from Newmarket VW. don't be afraid to shop around.

fits

Any update on yours ewj?

ewj1978

As for an update on my broken ID.3. Got a phonecall yesterday saying the new controller was installed and they should be good to go from today. Pity I'm working till Monday

fits

ewj1978 wrote: »

As for an update on my broken ID.3. Got a phonecall yesterday saying the new controller was installed and they should be good to go from today. Pity I'm working till Monday

Oh fingers crossed it’s fixed for you.

jogdish

Would really like the rear view camera, but its a 5k jump from the life - I read that you can install it after the matter. Is that true, how does that work ?

Heading out today to talk about one

Any questions a first time electric buyer should ask ?

rx8

jogdish wrote: »

Would really like the rear view camera, but its a 5k jump from the life - I read that you can install it after the matter. Is that true, how does that work ?

Heading out today to talk about one

Any questions a first time electric buyer should ask ?

The rear view camera is available and can be retrofitted.
Do you have a home charger installed or have you applied for the grant?
No vehicle details are required for the application on SEAI website.

jogdish

rx8 wrote: »

The rear view camera is available and can be retrofitted.
Do you have a home charger installed or have you applied for the grant?
No vehicle details are required for the application on SEAI website.

Retrofitted camera - so literally pay for just the camera and it can be fitted and work as if it was genuine VW done ? Any idea of cost ?


Going to ask about home charging, want an electrician to tell me how/visuals of what it will look like/issues etc

robbie_63

jogdish wrote: »

Would really like the rear view camera, but its a 5k jump from the life - I read that you can install it after the matter. Is that true, how does that work ?

Heading out today to talk about one

Any questions a first time electric buyer should ask ?

See how you go without it for a while first before deciding, I have a rear camera on my mondeo and I never use it, I much prefer reversing as normal and that's a lot bigger than an ID3.

Sam the Sham

ewj1978 wrote: »

the online calculator is a load of ****e. I emailed all the dealers ( I do mean all the dealers) told them what spec and what deposit.
12-15 responded. Put it all on a spreadsheet.



As above email them all. If they want your business they'll trade. Best quotes I got were from Newmarket VW. don't be afraid to shop around.

Do you mind me asking how much discount you ended up getting and on which model?

[Update:] I emailed all the ones I'm willing to go to. Those who have responded have been quite cagey. Nobody has responded with an actual price of any kind (despite me being quite persistent).

Bif

DrPhilG wrote: »

Got the commission number for the new order this afternoon.

Not showing anything on the "My VW" site as yet.

Anyone know how long it takes for the vehicle details to come on the site?

Bif

Bif wrote: »

Anyone know how long it takes for the vehicle details to come on the site?

A long time, I believe you'll only see update when it actually goes into production. Mine still shows nothing since the beginning of May.

Sam the Sham

WTF is the "protection pack" that dealers seem to add on to these cars? Seems to add some non-negligible amount (a few hundred anyway) to the price. Can one ask not to have it?

TitianGerm

Sam the Sham wrote: »

WTF is the "protection pack" that dealers seem to add on to these cars? Seems to add some non-negligible amount (a few hundred anyway) to the price. Can one ask not to have it?

Lifeshine maybe?

robbie_63

Sam the Sham wrote: »

WTF is the "protection pack" that dealers seem to add on to these cars? Seems to add some non-negligible amount (a few hundred anyway) to the price. Can one ask not to have it?

Those end of year bonus' don't pay themselves you know!

the_amazing_raisin

Sam the Sham wrote: »

WTF is the "protection pack" that dealers seem to add on to these cars? Seems to add some non-negligible amount (a few hundred anyway) to the price. Can one ask not to have it?

They're totally optional, an extra that most dealers will try to push

There were 3 on offer when I got my ID.4

1. GAP/RTI insurance - pays back the full amount of the car or the outstanding finance if the car is written off and the insurance valuation doesn't cover the remaining finance

2. SMART insurance - Basically gives you insurance against small chips and scratches to the paintwork

3. GardX protection - They cover the outside and inside of the car with magic goop which stops it getting wrecked supposedly

They were all around €400 for 3 years, I wasn't able to swing any deals

Personally I went for 1&2 but not 3. GAP insurance seems like a good idea if you're buying the car on finance, it'll stop you being put out of pocket if the car is written off

The SMART insurance might be a good plan if you want to keep the car looking good. The car will inevitably pick up some scratches along the way so I'm planning to bring the car in towards the end of the PCP term and get as many of them fixed as I can so the car retains its value for trade in

The Gard-X seemed a bit superfluous given I've insured the bodywork, and it gets some dubious reviews, so I didn't bother

Bif

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A long time, I believe you'll only see update when it actually goes into production. Mine still shows nothing since the beginning of May.

Cheers. I’m three weeks after order so a bit to go yet. Colour and 2022 up on screen page is all.

remoteboy

jogdish wrote: »

Would really like the rear view camera, but its a 5k jump from the life - I read that you can install it after the matter. Is that true, how does that work ?

Heading out today to talk about one

Any questions a first time electric buyer should ask ?

Look at the Business - it’s the cheapest option with camera.

Bif

Bif wrote: »

Cheers. I’m three weeks after order so a bit to go yet. Colour and 2022 up on screen page is all.

Same here, shows 2021 and colour, I wonder if there are any differences ? seems mad mine would say 2021 model but suppose it doesn't really matter in the end.

the_amazing_raisin

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

They're totally optional, an extra that most dealers will try to push

There were 3 on offer when I got my ID.4

1. GAP/RTI insurance - pays back the full amount of the car or the outstanding finance if the car is written off and the insurance valuation doesn't cover the remaining finance

2. SMART insurance - Basically gives you insurance against small chips and scratches to the paintwork

3. GardX protection - They cover the outside and inside of the car with magic goop which stops it getting wrecked supposedly

They were all around €400 for 3 years, I wasn't able to swing any deals

Personally I went for 1&2 but not 3. GAP insurance seems like a good idea if you're buying the car on finance, it'll stop you being put out of pocket if the car is written off

The SMART insurance might be a good plan if you want to keep the car looking good. The car will inevitably pick up some scratches along the way so I'm planning to bring the car in towards the end of the PCP term and get as many of them fixed as I can so the car retains its value for trade in

The Gard-X seemed a bit superfluous given I've insured the bodywork, and it gets some dubious reviews, so I didn't bother

GardX sounds like what I got on the i3 and to be honest it's held an amazing shine for a car with 120,500 Kms, 4 years and 3 months old. So perhaps it's not that bad a deal ?

rx8

Sam the Sham wrote: »

WTF is the "protection pack" that dealers seem to add on to these cars? Seems to add some non-negligible amount (a few hundred anyway) to the price. Can one ask not to have it?

They always try to sneak these on and hope that you don't notice. They were not impressed when I told them I'm not taking 2 of them. Went with the RTI/Gap insurance but not the others.
The Gardex/Lifeshine comes with a case of cleaning products aswell. I had them since my previous Passat. The coating doesn't protect against bird poo, so they can keep it to sneak on someone else's bill.

rx8

rx8 wrote: »

They always try to sneak these on and hope that you don't notice. They were not impressed when I told them I'm not taking 2 of them. Went with the RTI/Gap insurance but not the others.
The Gardex/Lifeshine comes with a case of cleaning products aswell. I had them since my previous Passat. The coating doesn't protect against bird poo, so they can keep it to sneak on someone else's bill.

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

eagerv

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

I would say a paint protection film gives the best paint protection, but is expensive. Next would probably be a ceramic coating, again not cheap and best applied when car new, or very well prepared.

Personally, I just use a good wax about twice a year, my favourite is Collinite 845.

rx8

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

It's sold as a protective coating, but I don't know from what. I clean off any poo,as soon as I can and any that's caked on I soak for a while to soften it,before cleaning off. No escaping it really.

the_amazing_raisin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

GardX sounds like what I got on the i3 and to be honest it's held an amazing shine for a car with 120,500 Kms, 4 years and 3 months old. So perhaps it's not that bad a deal ?

I think it's the most popular one, and it seems fine if applied properly

If I was going with it I'd probably get a specialist detailer to apply it, they'd have a lot more experience and would probably do a better job

My thinking was to either get the GardX or the bodywork insurance. The GardX may or may not work against scratches and chips, seems like it could go either way

But with the insurance, I'm covered for up to something like €2,500 and it'll cover scratches up to 15cm and chips up to 1.5cm I think

So the insurance seemed like the better bet overall, money beats snake oil in the end

the_amazing_raisin

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

I think it's the most popular one, and it seems fine if applied properly

If I was going with it I'd probably get a specialist detailer to apply it, they'd have a lot more experience and would probably do a better job

My thinking was to either get the GardX or the bodywork insurance. The GardX may or may not work against scratches and chips, seems like it could go either way

But with the insurance, I'm covered for up to something like €2,500 and it'll cover scratches up to 15cm and chips up to 1.5cm I think

So the insurance seemed like the better bet overall, money beats snake oil in the end

How much is the insurance again and does it cover you for the 3 years ?

See the problem with repairing scratches and stone chips is that it's very difficult to get this type of work done without it being obvious that work was done to the paint.

the_amazing_raisin

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah yes bird poo, yeah mine was never protected against that either so what do you recommend ? and when you say protects in what way , will bird poo still stick like glue to the car or it just won't damage the paint after it's wiped off ?

Not much you can do with bird poo other than try to wash it off before it gets stuck on

The more embedded dirt gets, the more damage it'll do to the gel coat when taking it off, so regular washes are the only real solution. I'm trying to wash the ID.4 once a month, hopefully I'll at least make it through the summer before that resolution falls flat

I think there's something to be said for throwing a quick coat of wax on two or three times a year. I'm not particularly good at it but if you can get a coat onto the paintwork after cleaning it then it'll help stop the dirt sticking. Also, shiny car as a bonus

I'm saying that now knowing the front of my car is like an insect graveyard and there's muck streaked up one side and the back. I'll wash it next week