Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Eod100

dregin wrote: »

Since the mail from Leinster says tickets for that match will be refunded, I assume that means they've given up on it.

It wouldn't have gone ahead with fans either way so maybe they're refunding on that basis anyway. Think EPCR still intends to play the game anyway unless this change between now and then

Burkie1203

dregin wrote: »

Since the mail from Leinster says tickets for that match will be refunded, I assume that means they've given up on it.

The media reports of derbies followed by a final aren't figment of the journos imagination. They are getting that from people within IRFU or one of the provinces. It has been discussed as a way of finalising the season by the Pro14 powers that be so certain games won't be happening, and others such as the Munster game will be BCD, likewise Sarries game

troyzer

Burkie1203 wrote: »

The media reports of derbies followed by a final aren't figment of the journos imagination. They are getting that from people within IRFU or one of the provinces. It has been discussed as a way of finalising the season by the Pro14 powers that be so certain games won't be happening, and others such as the Munster game will be BCD, likewise Sarries game

I'm inclined to agree with this.

The draft timetable that the Irish Times published last week looks more and more real with these developments.

I'm due nearly €400 in refunds in that case. Holy ****, I spend way too much on rugby. And that's not including the flights and hotels I've already been refunded for.

ktulu123

Former Former wrote: »

If pro rugby is to have any chance of surviving, we need to keep the broadcasters on side. What you're suggesting would bankrupt us very, very quickly.

Oh yeah I know that, would just be a cool thing to have

Burkie1203

Burkie1203 wrote: »

The media reports of derbies followed by a final aren't figment of the journos imagination. They are getting that from people within IRFU or one of the provinces. It has been discussed as a way of finalising the season by the Pro14 powers that be so certain games won't be happening, and others such as the Munster game will be BCD, likewise Sarries game

Someone on a pod said derbies were for full match points but other games were being classed as 2 point draws.

Burkie1203

troyzer wrote: »

I'm inclined to agree with this.

The draft timetable that the Irish Times published last week looks more and more real with these developments.

I'm due nearly €400 in refunds in that case. Holy ****, I spend way too much on rugby. And that's not including the flights and hotels I've already been refunded for.

I'd say the unions backed it too with clubs in agreement. It's the only way back that i can see thats viable

Richie_Rich89

It's interestinbg reading that article on the 42 advocating Carbery at 15 for Ireland to get another playmaker on the field outside the 10. It's something that Leinster will really be lacking going forward as well if they're going to persist with Henshaw and Ringrose in the centre and Larmour at fullback. None of them is really the type of player to deliver a pass under pressure that unlocks a defence. It'd have to be a concern against the very best opposition.

Of the three, Ringrose is actually a technically excellent passer. He's well able to execute good passes. But I still wouldn't really think of him as a 'playmaker'. He doesn't really have the vision and decision making to put someone into a hole with a pass. I think it is a bit of a deficiency in his game.

Suppose we'll see what happens.

Shefwedfan

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

It's interestinbg reading that article on the 42 advocating Carbery at 15 for Ireland to get another playmaker on the field outside the 10. It's something that Leinster will really be lacking going forward as well if they're going to persist with Henshaw and Ringrose in the centre and Larmour at fullback. None of them is really the type of player to deliver a pass under pressure that unlocks a defence. It'd have to be a concern against the very best opposition.

Of the three, Ringrose is actually a technically excellent passer. He's well able to execute good passes. But I still wouldn't really think of him as a 'playmaker'. He doesn't really have the vision and decision making to put someone into a hole with a pass. I think it is a bit of a deficiency in his game.

Suppose we'll see what happens.

Who would you play in centre instead?

salmocab

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Who would you play in centre instead?

You know full well who he’d play in the centre

Shefwedfan

salmocab wrote: »

You know full well who he’d play in the centre

Hahaha, we all need a laugh

Burkie1203

salmocab wrote: »

You know full well who he’d play in the centre

Joe Tomane

Shefwedfan

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Joe Tomane

I was going for T’eo

Burkie1203

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I was going for T’eo

T'eo is at 13

Tuqiri and Lowe on the wings.

Isa at 15

Shefwedfan

Burkie1203 wrote: »

T'eo is at 13

Tuqiri and Lowe on the wings.

Isa at 15

Magic

Yeah_Right

Burkie1203 wrote: »

T'eo is at 13

Tuqiri and Lowe on the wings.

Isa at 15

Gopperth at 10 and JGP at 9 then grab some popcorn and watch the hate flow.

thomond2006

Steven Sykes and Kane Douglas in the row. Clint Newland at TH.

Burkie1203

thomond2006 wrote: »

Steven Sykes and Kane Douglas in the row. Clint Newland at TH.

Jowitt and Auva in the back row


1 Wright
2
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

scott1974

Quote:
Originally Posted by thomond2006 View Post
Steven Sykes and Kane Douglas in the row. Clint Newland at TH.
Jowitt and Auva in the back row


1 Wright
2
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa


Struass at 2 and Keith Gleeson at 7..

Former Former

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Jowitt and Auva in the back row


1 Wright
2
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

salmocab

Former Former wrote: »

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

This team needs a PR manager

shaungil

Former Former wrote: »

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

How Tony Goldfinch hasn't made this team is travesty.

errlloyd

Former Former wrote: »

1 Wright
2 Vermaas
3 Newland
4 Sykes
5 Douglas
6 Jowitt
7 Elsom
8 Auva
9 JGP
10 Gopperth
11 Lowe
12 Tomane
13 Teo
14 Tuquri
15 Isa

Is the team meant to be bad or good?

Because this team is a mix of absolute legends and absolute flops! Where is Kirchener, Goodman, Berqueist,

salmocab

errlloyd wrote: »

Is the team meant to be bad or good?

Because this team is a mix of absolute legends and absolute flops! Where is Kirchener, Goodman, Berqueist,

Aaron Dunden at hooker surely? He was a good solid player

dregin

errlloyd wrote: »

Is the team meant to be bad or good?

Because this team is a mix of absolute legends and absolute flops! Where is Kirchener, Goodman, Berqueist,

This. What's the team supposed to be??

awec

Is it not just a team of foreigners?

salmocab

dregin wrote: »

This. What's the team supposed to be??

Just a foreign 15 that aren’t named O Brien

sydthebeat

It's not "most tanned leinster XV" or gorgeous Rob would be first on the list

Richie_Rich89

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Who would you play in centre instead?

Think I'd stick with Henshaw and Ringose for now, even if they haven't ever really clicked as a partnership.

I'd probably be looking to Keenan or Frawley at fullback to be the second playmaker.

Dave_The_Sheep

So what did people indicate in the questionnaire today, out of curiousity?

It seemed to imply at the end you almost locked yourself into a decision, but I presume that is not the case.

salmocab

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

So what did people indicate in the questionnaire today, out of curiousity?

It seemed to imply at the end you almost locked yourself into a decision, but I presume that is not the case.

Yeah it was an odd one, it said questionnaire but it was just one question and there’s been no real details on the membership Not even a price so it’s a bit rich asking people if they’d put the money toward that.

stephen_n

I went for the third option, money was always gone as far as I was concerned. Prefer to see it going to supporting the branch through this.

Leinster's best NIQ XXIII?

Exclamation Marc

Saracens refund came through today.

Nice to get it back so handily given the grief on any other refunds these days.

Jersey Puller

Owen Finnegan’s brief stint worth a mention.

Clegg

Leinster have posted their top 5 cross field kick trys. Basically the Ross Byrne show. I love it.

https://youtu.be/abVo_J6cwsE

molloyjh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Leinster's best NIQ XXIII?

That's pretty tough, especially the back row....

VDM Strauss Bent
Fardy Hines
Jowitt Auva'a Elsom

Whitaker Gopperth
Contenpomi Te'o
Lowe Nacewa Tomane

Dundon, OLR, Wright, Triggs, ???, JGP, Berne, Kirchner

Cant think of a 4th back row tbh. Fardy could move to 6 with Truggs coming into the starting XV and Jowitt dropping to the bench. There are a bunch of 2nd rows that I can think of, none of whom though really stood out over the other. Douglas or Sykes would be the best of them.

sydthebeat

Brad thorns reign as leinster King was quickly forgotten

salmocab

sydthebeat wrote: »

Brad thorns reign as leinster King was quickly forgotten

A few weeks ago there was argument that he wasn’t around long enough to be a legend now he’s being blanked. We’re so fickle

Former Former

salmocab wrote: »

A few weeks ago there was argument that he wasn’t around long enough to be a legend now he’s being blanked. We’re so fickle

Not as fickle as molloyjh including capped Irish internationals in his NIQ XXIII...

Bridge93

Was young enough so maybe I’m remembering wrong but I’d pick David Holwell over Gopperth if contepomi is playing 12. Spooner was alright too

Hippo

Bridge93 wrote: »

Was young enough so maybe I’m remembering wrong but I’d pick David Holwell over Gopperth if contepomi is playing 12. Spooner was alright too

Correct re Holwell. Terrific player, very underrated.

Former Former

VDM
OLR
Wright
Hines
Thorn
Fardy
Elsom
Finegan
Whitaker
Gopperth
Nacewa
Contepomi
Te'o
Tomane
Kirchner

Vermaas
Van der Linde
Green
Douglas
Jowitt
Holwell
Goodman
Tuqiri

Best I can do if excluding guys who qualified on residency.

Faugheen

I 100% agree on David Holwell. He was an excellent player.

Buer

Hippo wrote: »

Correct re Holwell. Terrific player, very underrated.

Not sure if he's underrated at all by Leinster fans, to be honest. We all thought the sun shone out of his arse.

Burkie1203

No Hekenui lads?

Or Finegan?

irishbucsfan

Buer wrote: »

Not sure if he's underrated at all by Leinster fans, to be honest. We all thought the sun shone out of his arse.

He also rose again on the third year to deliver us from the perils of injury

molloyjh

Former Former wrote: »

Not as fickle as molloyjh including capped Irish internationals in his NIQ XXIII...

Oops.

Granny15

Clegg wrote: »

Leinster have posted their top 5 cross field kick trys. Basically the Ross Byrne show. I love it.

https://youtu.be/abVo_J6cwsE

I don’t. Basically it was a tactic the England rugby union team started using in early 2000’s with Johnny Wilkinson. It was then a rugby league tactic imported into Union and made widespread after Ben Cohen And Dan Luger scored a few tries off it. I seem to remember it first being used on the Lions around that time also. Always hated the tactic for that reason.

The kids that employ it nowadays are akin to showing off to their fathers how good they are without really having any conscience Or rugby knowledge about how it came about and what it represents.

Burkie1203

Granny15 wrote: »

I don’t. Basically it was a tactic the England rugby union team started using in early 2000’s with Johnny Wilkinson. It was then a rugby league tactic imported into Union and made widespread after Ben Cohen And Dan Luger scored a few tries off it. I seem to remember it first being used on the Lions around that time also. Always hated the tactic for that reason.

The kids that employ it nowadays are akin to showing off to their fathers how good they are without really having any conscience Or rugby knowledge about how it came about and what it represents.

The cross field kick is an additional attacking ploy which for example a 10 can use to exploit space out wide or in order to get by a defence, defences dominate the game nowadays

Shefwedfan

Granny15 wrote: »

I don’t. Basically it was a tactic the England rugby union team started using in early 2000’s with Johnny Wilkinson. It was then a rugby league tactic imported into Union and made widespread after Ben Cohen And Dan Luger scored a few tries off it. I seem to remember it first being used on the Lions around that time also. Always hated the tactic for that reason.

The kids that employ it nowadays are akin to showing off to their fathers how good they are without really having any conscience Or rugby knowledge about how it came about and what it represents.

What are you talking about?


So because it was used by league it shouldnt be used in Union???? or because it was used by English?


When executed correctly it is very effective tactic. Ross Byrne one of the best in World at it as well