Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Interested Observer

Well worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPXdGGwI7AQ

Don't think there's a single try from the MOC era in it.

sydthebeat

I love that last one. Fully epitomises leinster rugby

Clegg

That Bath try was excellent. BOD picked his line when he was still 20 metres behind the play and just slalomed his way through the Bath defence. He actually scored a similar try against Toulouse when he caught a Contepomi offload. But he'd been tracking the pass from a long way back. Surprised they didn't include that in the highlights package

Interested Observer

This is one of my favourite BOD tries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4MJceJQd4I

I think Leinster were really struggling in the game too and he might have won it with that score. Close your eyes at about 20s, you'll be better off.

Squidgy Black

Anyone want to take a stab at Saturdays team?

Porter, Kearney, Cronin, Henshaw, VdF and Healy are unavailable under the international players two week mandatory break. I'd say we'll see the rest of the internationals roll back in though ahead of Lyon. The likes of Fardy might get rested due to starting three games in a row over the Christmas period.

1. Ed Byrne
2. Tracy
3. Furlong
4. Toner
5. Ryan
6. Ruddock
7. Connors
8. Doris
9. JGP
10. Frawley
11. Lowe
12. COB
13. Ringrose
14. Dave Kearney
15. Larmour

16. Brian Byrne
17. Dooley
18. Aungier
19. Murphy
20. Deegan
21. McGrath
22. Harry Byrne
23. Keenan

Richie_Rich89

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Anyone want to take a stab at Saturdays team?

Porter, Kearney, Cronin, Henshaw, VdF and Healy are unavailable under the international players two week mandatory break. I'd say we'll see the rest of the internationals roll back in though ahead of Lyon. The likes of Fardy might get rested due to starting three games in a row over the Christmas period.

1. Ed Byrne
2. Tracy
3. Furlong
4. Toner
5. Ryan
6. Ruddock
7. Connors
8. Doris
9. JGP
10. Frawley
11. Lowe
12. COB
13. Ringrose
14. Dave Kearney
15. Larmour

16. Brian Byrne
17. Dooley
18. Aungier
19. Murphy
20. Deegan
21. McGrath
22. Harry Byrne
23. Keenan

I'd say Luke McGrath will storsh, considering he didn't feature against Ulster. Doris and Toner might get a rest. They've played quite a lot of rugby. It might be a good time to introduce Dan Sheehan. And Tomane will be straight back in ahead of COB if he's good to go. The report said he was "reintegrating" to training, so dunno if he'll actually be ready.

1. Peter Dooley
2. Sean Cronin
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. James Ryan
5. Ross Molony
6. Rhys Ruddock
7. Scott Peni
8. Max Deegan
9. Luke McGrath
10. Ciaran Frawley
11. Cian Kelleher
12. Joe Tomane
13. Garry Ringrose
14. David Kearney
15. Jordan Larmour

16. Dan Sheehan
17. Edward Byrne
18. Jack Aungier
19. Ryan Baird
20. Josh Murphy
21. Rowan Osborne
22. Harry Byrne
23. Jimmy O'Brien

salmocab

Think we’ll see Penney at 7 this week

Former Former

Surely it's in everyone's interests to start Cronin

Squidgy Black

Former Former wrote: »

Surely it's in everyone's interests to start Cronin

IRFU won't allow it under the player welfare, anyone who flew to Japan has to get two weeks continuous rest. He started against Ulster and benched against Munster. Can't see them bending the rules for it.

Richie_Rich89

Squidgy Black wrote: »

IRFU won't allow it under the player welfare, anyone who flew to Japan has to get two weeks continuous rest. He started against Ulster and benched against Munster. Can't see them bending the rules for it.

...which obviously means he's exempt. How could he play the middle interpro and get two consecutive weeks off?

salmocab

Porter played last week so he isn’t getting it either

molloyjh

Clegg wrote: »

That Bath try was excellent. BOD picked his line when he was still 20 metres behind the play and just slalomed his way through the Bath defence. He actually scored a similar try against Toulouse when he caught a Contepomi offload. But he'd been tracking the pass from a long way back. Surprised they didn't include that in the highlights package

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pksH-ttiSu4

You're welcome.

Another 2 that stood out as missing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XkQQ8HhUfc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lXo1Lw_93w

Former Former

Squidgy Black wrote: »

IRFU won't allow it under the player welfare, anyone who flew to Japan has to get two weeks continuous rest. He started against Ulster and benched against Munster. Can't see them bending the rules for it.

But Cronin had nearly three months between his last RWC game and the Ulster match. (And he isn't in Andy Farrell's plans, by the looks of it.)

Other than sticking to the 'rule', which he's already broken, you'd wonder who it's serving to stop him playing.

Steve

I'm divided.

I think JL will be the next Isa, and hopefully GR will be the next BOD.
RB is nearly there, he just needs Johnnies OCD.

redmca2

Steve wrote: »

I think JL will be the next Isa, and hopefully GR will be the next BOD.
RB is nearly there, he just needs Johnnies OCD.

I disagree with all the above.
The 3 current team members are great players but I would not put JL in the same class as Isa, nor GR in the same class a BOD, nor RB in that of JS. And in any case it's probably unfair to label current players with those of the past.



I think RB has shown how capable (but not exceptional) he is but the next generation (HB and Frawley) are beginning to show their abilities.
The next couple of seasons will be very interesting in confirming the longer term pecking order for the Nr 10 shirt

Steve

I wouldn't put them in the same class either yet, I didn't say that, nor can they compare right now, but I'm hoping they can grow into it and really think they have the potential to do it.

Heard rumours that Penny is looking to leave to get more consistent gametime

errlloyd

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Heard rumours that Penny is looking to leave to get more consistent gametime

Can't be true, he's about 9 years old.

Clegg

Deleted User wrote: »

Heard rumours that Penny is looking to leave to get more consistent gametime

It could well be true. But I'm certain there isn't a province that would have played him as much this season as Leinster have.

Buer

Given he has only turned 20 this season, it would be extremely rash for him to head off elsewhere. Ulster would be the obvious destination. There isn't really a spot for him in Munster with TOD, Cloete and POM/JOD all playing at openside. Connacht have Fa'ainga and Butler playing there with neither involved with Ireland so pitch time would be scant there too.

Ulster have a solid back row but Reidy turns 31 this season and Penny could potentially pass him out in the next 18 months on merit if he gets the necessary game time.

At Leinster, it's hard to see exactly where all the game time will go. VDF, Leavy, Conners and Penny with someone like Deegan also having played there in recent times. It's a similar situation to a couple of years ago when Murphy was struggling for game time and departed. He at least had the benefit of versatility to his game which Penny doesn't; he's openside or nowhere and that limits him as a bench option also.

But he should be backing himself given his age to see if he can push ahead of the likes of Conners again and develop before considering his future. I've mentioned it before and I do believe that his size will always be an issue for him. He'll need to be a serious talent to make up for the lack of bulk he has compared to the other options available.

Wegians89

In fairness, Penny would get plenty of game time at Connacht. Faingaas contract is u in the summer and he still hasn’t been tied down. I’d expect big interest in him from France/England too. Butler is probably best at and first choice 8. I think with faingaas injuries this season it’s been very obvious Connacht are lacking in natural 7s. Penny would comfortably be second choice 7 if faingaa stays snd first choice if faingaa leaves

Former Former

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2019/12/31/try-of-the-decade-won-by-larmours-lung-buster/

Try of the decade, no less

Former Former

Former Former wrote: »

https://www.pro14rugby.org/2019/12/31/try-of-the-decade-won-by-larmours-lung-buster/

Try of the decade, no less

You really should have posted this to the Munster thread.

Dravokivich

"They've got some rubbish fullbacks, haven't they... Leinster"

:pac:

Burkie1203

Fardy and Lowe doing the Q&A before the game on Saturday so they wont be playing

durkadurka

Based on some training photos posted there we may see Furlong, Cronin, ruddock, ringrose, james Ryan , Tomane.

Buer

durkadurka wrote: »

Based on some training photos posted there we may see Furlong, Cronin, ruddock, ringrose, james Ryan , Tomane.

I'd be very surprised if we didn't. They haven't featured this holiday period and they need a run ahead of the European games.

Cronin is the exception but he has had a lengthy break already due to injury so another 40 minutes under his belt would be no harm. Plus he's not in the Irish squad so is potentially looking at a lengthy rest after the European fixtures given we don't play again until February 15th.

errlloyd

Anyone know where to buy 5 or 6 off-brand retroish Leinster jerseys.

Group of lads going to the Bennetton game and we're fans of a bit of an old costume. So we were thinking of doing classic rugby players. Tape, shorts, socks, and classic jerseys.

Sheep Shagger

errlloyd wrote: »

Anyone know where to buy 5 or 6 off-brand retroish Leinster jerseys.

Group of lads going to the Bennetton game and we're fans of a bit of an old costume. So we were thinking of doing classic rugby players. Tape, shorts, socks, and classic jerseys.

I've got a good few but none are for sale

Adverts.ie, done deal and ebay are probably your best bet.

There's a retro jersey page on facebook that do sales in pubs etc but they don't operate all of the time AFAIK.

scott1974

errlloyd wrote: »

Anyone know where to buy 5 or 6 off-brand retroish Leinster jerseys.

Group of lads going to the Bennetton game and we're fans of a bit of an old costume. So we were thinking of doing classic rugby players. Tape, shorts, socks, and classic jerseys.

http://www.sumosam.com/leinster-retro-rugby-shirt/