Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Squidgy Black

errlloyd wrote: »

Bryan Byrne has gone on loan to Bristol apparently?

Great move for him if true.

salmocab

errlloyd wrote: »

Bryan Byrne has gone on loan to Bristol apparently?

Decent move he’s too good to be a 4th choice anywhere

Scottmactom

salmocab wrote: »

Decent move he’s too good to be a 4th choice anywhere

If true he'd have a lot more caps for leinster than he does.

salmocab

Scottmactom wrote: »

If true he'd have a lot more caps for leinster than he does.

Not sure what you mean by this. He’s 4th choice for Leinster was never really higher than third choice but I do think he’s too good a player to be a 4th choice hooker. If he had a lot more caps for Leinster he’d have been higher up the pecking order to get them.

Granny15

I think ScottmacTom is in for a rude awakening when the young players he lauds end up being 3rd and 4th choice at Leinster for a decade. It’s the arrogance that smacks of a lack of understanding on what is required to be a consummate pro and long standing fixture at Leinster that gets to me.

Exclamation Marc

Scottmactom wrote: »

If true he'd have a lot more caps for leinster than he does.

That literally makes no sense.

Scottmactom

Granny15 wrote: »

I think ScottmacTom is in for a rude awakening when the young players he lauds end up being 3rd and 4th choice at Leinster for a decade. It’s the arrogance that smacks of a lack of understanding on what is required to be a consummate pro and long standing fixture at Leinster that gets to me.

Kelleher seems to be struggling alright. Loon.

Granny15

Scottmactom wrote: »

Kelleher seems to be struggling alright. Loon.

There’s more than Kelleher that you’ve promoted on here! Picking one that looks like he’s going to make it is Cherrypicking. Let’s see about Hernan and Smith!

Oh and that’s right I’m a loon when it comes to my rugby. Sorry I can’t be blasé about it like you. It means I’m passionate!

salmocab

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

That literally makes no sense.

Strap in it’s going to go on for a while I think

pickarooney

salmocab wrote: »

Not sure what you mean by this. He’s 4th choice for Leinster was never really higher than third choice but I do think he’s too good a player to be a 4th choice hooker. If he had a lot more caps for Leinster he’d have been higher up the pecking order to get them.

Is this the definition of a circular argument?

Former Former

Byrne is a decent player but Kelleher has been so good and Tracey is playing his best rugby in years too, a loan isn't a bad idea. Cronin may well be gone next year so things may shake up a bit more.

Clegg

Team to face Ospreys.

15. Hugo Keenan (12)
14. Cian Kelleher (13)
13. Jimmy O’Brien (15)
12. Conor O’Brien (22)
11. James Lowe (41)
10. Ciarán Frawley (23)
9. Jamison Gibson-Park (86)
1. Peter Dooley (74)
2. James Tracy (106)
3. Michael Bent (133)
4. Ross Molony (94)
5. Scott Fardy (56) CAPTAIN
6. Josh Murphy (30)
7. Scott Penny (12)
8. Rhys Ruddock (170)

16. Seán Cronin (179)
17. Michael Milne (6)
18. Jack Aungier (3)
19. Jack Dunne (5)
20. Ryan Baird (5)
21. Rowan Osborne (3)
22. Harry Byrne (7)
23. Tommy O’Brien (2)

Sangre

Good to see the O'Briens and Penny lining out.

arsebiscuits1

Never thought I'd say it buy we're looking very thin on back row cover when we have to move Ruddock to 8 and Baird is our back row cover (presumably it's actually Fardy)

Conditions for this is likely dire and I suspect the quality of the pitch isn't much better.

Having said all that, I expect a win here

Richie_Rich89

Tomane must be injured again. With Ringrose and O'Loughlin injured too, the number of hamstring pulls he's getting would have to be a concern ahead of the Saracens match. Realistically, Conor O'Brien hasn't been getting the exposure to be an option for that match.

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Never thought I'd say it buy we're looking very thin on back row cover when we have to move Ruddock to 8 and Baird is our back row cover (presumably it's actually Fardy)

Conditions for this is likely dire and I suspect the quality of the pitch isn't much better.

Having said all that, I expect a win here

Dowling and Martin Maloney at blindside, David Aspil and Ronan Watters at openside and Tony Ryan and Ronan Foley at no. 8 still in reserve. I think we've seen that Lancaster's training methods would prepare those sort of level players to step in seamlessly.

Scottmactom

Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

Tomane must be injured again. With Ringrose and O'Loughlin injured too, the number of hamstring pulls he's getting would have to be a concern ahead of the Saracens match. Realistically, Conor O'Brien hasn't been getting the exposure to be an option for that match.



Dowling and Martin Maloney at blindside, David Aspil and Ronan Watters at openside and Tony Ryan and Ronan Foley at no. 8 still in reserve. I think we've seen that Lancaster's training methods would allow those sort of level players step in seamlessly.

Moloney and Watters are injured. Apsil, Foley and Ryan no longer training with Leinster.

arsebiscuits1

And I don't think Dowling will be retained after this year.

We're still in unbelievable health with back rows.

Scottmactom

Dowling would be better off going elsewhere he is well down the depth chart at lock and 6.

Richie_Rich89

Scottmactom wrote: »

Moloney and Watters are injured. Apsil, Foley and Ryan no longer training with Leinster.

Thanks. Good info. They could call them up easily enough if they were needed, though, couldn't they? - like they've done with Conor Maguire. They know the systems.

Richie_Rich89

Scottmactom wrote: »

Dowling would be better off going elsewhere he is well down the depth chart at lock and 6.

He played well against Glasgow, but it's not a good sign if he's not making either of two rotated XXIIIs while the internationals are away.

marko93

What's the story with Vakh ? Is he injured or just behind the other lads in terms of preference ?

Scottmactom

Injured.

stephen_n

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

And I don't think Dowling will be retained after this year.

We're still in unbelievable health with back rows.

I wonder would he be one that Connacht would take a look at. Good player but we have a lot of second row talent coming through.

Dubinusa

Baird will probably move to a senior contract next season. Fardy may move on, Dowling could also get a contract! Of course, a NIQ may be signed.
If Dowling is not offered a promotion, a move to Ulster or Connacht may be his best option. Regan and Dalton are not cutting it in Ulster. Connacht need another lock!
Great to see Dunne back!

hype101

Dubinusa wrote: »

Baird will probably move to a senior contract next season. Fardy may move on, Dowling could also get a contract! Of course, a NIQ may be signed.
If Dowling is not offered a promotion, a move to Ulster or Connacht may be his best option. Regan and Dalton are not cutting it in Ulster. Connacht need another lock!
Great to see Dunne back!

Interesting that both Baird and Dunne are on the bench.. More likely Fardy will shift back when/if they are both on but would love to see Baird at 6 nonetheless.. He was sensational there in the JWC.. Could be our very own Pieter Steph Du Toit.

Shefwedfan

What station game on?

Burkie1203

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What station game on?

Tg4

Burkie1203

Are Leinster playing into the wind?

Exclamation Marc

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Are Leinster playing into the wind?

Yep.

degsie

Another 'grind-out' win. Fair play.