Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

stephen_n

I suppose it’s an individual choice. Some people see Leinster rugby as 40 players and few coaches. Even the club itself is so much bigger than the professional male players. Normally we fund all the ancillary parts without ever thinking about it. My nephew is involved with the youths and the level of support and coaching that goes into them is huge. Yes eventually that becomes our production line but it involves hundreds of kids who will never be pro’s. On top of that there is the wider reach of the Leinster branch with the clubs, that needs to be funded.

molloyjh

stephen_n wrote: »

I suppose it’s an individual choice. Some people see Leinster rugby as 40 players and few coaches. Even the club itself is so much bigger than the professional male players. Normally we fund all the ancillary parts without ever thinking about it. My nephew is involved with the youths and the level of support and coaching that goes into them is huge. Yes eventually that becomes our production line but it involves hundreds of kids who will never be pro’s. On top of that there is the wider reach of the Leinster branch with the clubs, that needs to be funded.

Let alone the admin side etc. This is far more than just a few highly paid rugby players. If cuts have to be made, they wont be made to the playing squad first.

irishbucsfan

stephen_n wrote: »

I suppose it’s an individual choice. Some people see Leinster rugby as 40 players and few coaches. Even the club itself is so much bigger than the professional male players. Normally we fund all the ancillary parts without ever thinking about it. My nephew is involved with the youths and the level of support and coaching that goes into them is huge. Yes eventually that becomes our production line but it involves hundreds of kids who will never be pro’s. On top of that there is the wider reach of the Leinster branch with the clubs, that needs to be funded.

The Leinster branch and the professional side are very different things

Burkie1203

molloyjh wrote: »

Let alone the admin side etc. This is far more than just a few highly paid rugby players. If cuts have to be made, they wont be made to the playing squad first.

I think pay cuts for the pro players are inevitable. And i would say the players know that. Cannot see any of them going against the grain on it either. Leinster have already lost 5 players and there won't be any signings. That's probably 500k saving

stephen_n

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The Leinster branch and the professional side are very different things

Is the funding different? As far as I’m aware the two are intertwined.

Steve

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

You won't lose your seat if you don't buy one of these memberships - the note from Micky D said that.

hmmm...
https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/official-membership-faqs/

So I have lost my seat?

Yes, nobody will have their current seat for the 2020/21 season
Tickets that become available will be in all parts of the ground (excluding terrace) and will be sold on a first come first served basis to members of the Official Membership
However, when hopefully everything returns to normal for the 2021/22 season, your seat, as you currently have, will revert back to your account and you will have access to this seat on a first refusal basis

salmocab

Steve wrote: »

hmmm...
https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/official-membership-faqs/

That’s referring to matches this season with restrictions in place, people can’t get their own seats as there will presumably be distancing rules. Your ST the following season will be for the same seat if you wish.

stephen_n

For those who got a refund for the Saracens game, is it a credit to your Ticketmaster account or does it go back to your bank account?

Former Former

stephen_n wrote: »

For those who got a refund for the Saracens game, is it a credit to your Ticketmaster account or does it go back to your bank account?

Back to the card that was used to buy them

stephen_n

Former Former wrote: »

Back to the card that was used to buy them

I was looking at the wrong card, don’t usually use that one to buy tickets.

Exclamation Marc

stephen_n wrote: »

For those who got a refund for the Saracens game, is it a credit to your Ticketmaster account or does it go back to your bank account?

Mine was refunded to my card directly.

stephen_n

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Mine was refunded to my card directly.

For some reason I used a credit card not the debit card to buy them. I was checking the wrong account. It was refunded straight back to the card.

ionadnapokot

Charlie Ward is now out the gap and up the field to Athenry

Clegg

That's our third prop to leave.

Scottmactom

Clegg wrote: »

That's our third prop to leave.

wasn't contracted to the province, in the sub-academy, didn't get an offer from leinster so went west.

FellasFellas

Jack Boyle will come through into sub academy and they might be banking on Sammy Illo putting his head down at TH.

Leinster need to worry more about their inability to produce top level 9s than props at this stage.

Also I'm assuming they're terminating Aaron O'Sullivans contract? He doesnt even play 15's!

Scottmactom

FellasFellas wrote: »

Jack Boyle will come through into sub academy and they might be banking on Sammy Illo putting his head down at TH.

Leinster need to worry more about their inability to produce top level 9s than props at this stage.

Yeah LH prop is fine with Boyle coming through and maybe Popplewell Jr.

TH prop is fine too, Illo, Rowan, Griffin, McGuire, Hadden.

As you said scrumhalf is the issue, though there looks to be very good prospects at U20, U19 and U18 level. Wait and see how they develop this season.

Scottmactom

FellasFellas wrote: »

Also I'm assuming they're terminating Aaron O'Sullivans contract? He doesnt even play 15's!

I doubt it, i'd say he will get one more year in the academy, where he will play 15's again. But who knows.

Still young at only 21 and has rare physical attributes for leinster wing.

ionadnapokot

Did Ben Griffin get into sub academy?

Scottmactom

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Did Ben Griffin get into sub academy?

sub-academy usually not confirmed until september etc.

He is involved with leinster over the summer anyway, I imagine he will get a sub academy spot if he gets his fitness sorted.

ionadnapokot

Griffins a beast of a boy
i'd imagine he's never going to be a Furlong type prop

Scottmactom

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Griffins a beast of a boy
i'd imagine he's never going to be a Furlong type prop

He is headed to Trinity apparently for AIL, so should be helpful.

Not sure if he is U19 or U20 next season. Certainly an interesting player to see how he develops.

ionadnapokot

Scottmactom wrote: »

He is headed to Trinity apparently for AIL, so should be helpful.

Not sure if he is U19 or U20 next season. Certainly an interesting player to see how he develops.

Not sure either. if you born in Jan '01 are you U19 this season (20/21) season?

Whatever this season amounts to big fellas need games to keep the fitness going.

Scottmactom

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Not sure either. if you born in Jan '01 are you U19 this season (20/21) season?

Whatever this season amounts to big fellas need games to keep the fitness going.

Born in 01 - U20
Born in 02 - U19
Born in 03 - U18

:eek:

stephen_n

Scottmactom wrote: »

Yeah LH prop is fine with Boyle coming through and maybe Popplewell Jr.

TH prop is fine too, Illo, Rowan, Griffin, McGuire, Hadden.

As you said scrumhalf is the issue, though there looks to be very good prospects at U20, U19 and U18 level. Wait and see how they develop this season.

Not placing any faith in Ben Murphy?

Scottmactom

stephen_n wrote: »

Not placing any faith in Ben Murphy?

think he is a good prospect but not standout, be interesting to see how he develops.

Prefer a healthy Gilsenan at his age group.

Murphy benefits from being his fathers son, still a good player but doesn't scream future leinster starting 9.

U20: Murphy/Gilsenan/Reilly
U19: Duggan/Devitt/Moloney
U18: Gunne/Carbery

Yeah_Right

I just saw that Oliver Jager has signed a 2 year extension with the Crusaders and now dreams of becoming an All Black. Thats a great effort by him and a great example to other young players who don't get academy contracts.

Scottmactom

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I just saw that Oliver Jager has signed a 2 year extension with the Crusaders and now dreams of becoming an All Black. Thats a great effort by him and a great example to other young players who don't get academy contracts.

to be fair he was offered sub-academy as a u19 out of school, most would have taken it and tried to get an academy offer after a year in the sub, fair play to him for giving NZ a shot and working his way up.

Larbre34

Munster have announced a 20/21 membership package essentially mirroring the Leinster offering, with one exception. Their's costs 50 quid.

salmocab

Larbre34 wrote: »

Munster have announced a 20/21 membership package essentially mirroring the Leinster offering, with one exception. Their's costs 50 quid.

In fairness Leinster are more than twice as good as them.