Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

rayd3

Tomtom364 wrote: »

heaven forbid a player wouldnt want to sit in the stands of the RDS and be grateful to just get to watch Leinster compete in the big games.

Yeah but those navy jumpers and Blueshirts look so smart, nobody would willingly give those up.

Exclamation Marc

irishbucsfan wrote: »

You can’t see what Leo, the head coach of Leinster, would get from putting players who leave Leinster under a little pressure?

Sorry I meant more so what he would get from it personally within the IRFU rather than on players.

Former Former

I would be surprised if there was any pressure on Salanoa to move to Munster. They already have Ryan, Archer and Knox so it's not like they needed cover urgently and it's not like it impacts the national team either.

So why would IRFU really be bothered?

Podge_irl

molloyjh wrote: »

Oh that really hurt SS. I dont know how I'm going to sleep tonight.

Maybe reign in the petty abuse of people there. You won't last long here otherwise. Most of us are grown ups, and act like it.

I totally can’t do the Crosaire though.

Podge_irl

Former Former wrote: »

I would be surprised if there was any pressure on Salanoa to move to Munster. They already have Ryan, Archer and Knox so it's not like they needed cover urgently and it's not like it impacts the national team either.

So why would IRFU really be bothered?

Yeah seems below their level of interest really. More likely a solely Munster move and a better offer.

Ultimately people will always just get annoyed because having produced 3 of the last THs to really make an impression at international level, Leinster are now struggling to field a decent complement of them.

awec

Podge_irl wrote: »

Yeah seems below their level of interest really. More likely a solely Munster move and a better offer.

Ultimately people will always just get annoyed because having produced 3 of the last THs to really make an impression at international level, Leinster are now struggling to field a decent complement of them.

3?

Are you trying to claim Mike Ross, who signed for Leinster when he was 29?

Former Former

awec wrote: »

3?

Are you trying to claim Mike Ross, who signed for Leinster when he was 29?

Porter
Furlong
Bent

Your move.

Podge_irl

I was claiming Moore. He was on the bench for 2 6N championship wins after all...

Maybe a bit of a stretch.

awec

Former Former wrote: »

Porter
Furlong
Bent

Your move.

Bent!

When did he make an impression for Ireland?

AbusesToilets

awec wrote: »

Bent!

When did he make an impression for Ireland?

First scrum he packed down in

awec

Podge_irl wrote: »

I was claiming Moore. He was on the bench for 2 6N championship wins after all...

Maybe a bit of a stretch.

I'd say be careful you don't pull something Podge.

Podge_irl

awec wrote: »

I'd say be careful you don't pull something Podge.

10 caps. 8 wins. 2 championships. Quite the impression :pac:

Sheep Shagger

Eir Sport have announced the semi final will be streamed live on their Facebook page for free

b.gud

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Sorry I meant more so what he would get from it personally within the IRFU rather than on players.

Your stance that Salanoa was pressured to move is, as someone else pointed out, kind of debunked by the fact that the IRFU wanted him to move to Connacht but he decided against it, and then later decided that he wanted to move to Munster.

molloyjh

b.gud wrote: »

Your stance that Salanoa was pressured to move is, as someone else pointed out, kind of debunked by the fact that the IRFU wanted him to move to Connacht but he decided against it, and then later decided that he wanted to move to Munster.

I think its fairly well accepted that the IRFU encouraged Salanoa to move. The discussion is over whether he was pressurised to or not.

PMC83

Eir saying they will be streaming the game live tomorrow on their facebook page. Bit of decency from them there tbf.

Salanoa has a great story. He doesn't really owe Leinster anything, we took a chance on him and it's worked out and I'm largely happy once he stays within the provincial system. He's quite an athlete and I think the IRFU put pressure on him based more on his potential talent cap than any specific need in Munster. The IRFU clearly felt he'd get more exposure to test level rugby with the move so they recommended and promoted that move which it is within their remit to do.

Leo has a point too - but I think his comments could be seen to question Salanoa's integrity and for that reason alone I think he should have tapered back a bit. Salanoa is young and inexperienced and there is no way he fully understands the nuance of inter provincial Irish rugby, especially when the main body for the sport is pushing him.

Not ideal that we're having to recruit a tighthead, but this looks like a signing that is going to have it's main impact in scrum training. Salanoa could be a serious international option and a place in the first choice Munster front row is much more accessible for him.

There are plenty of reasons why it's a good move.

Bazzo

This is gas. Images of Nucifora driving around Dublin in a nondescript van throwing a bag over lad's heads and firing them in the back spring to mind.

The IRFU should simultaneously take more and less involvement in player movement depending on whether it suits or not apparently

arsebiscuits1

Deleted User wrote: »

Not ideal that we're having to recruit a tighthead, but this looks like a signing that is going to have it's main impact in scrum training. Salanoa could be a serious international option and a place in the first choice Munster front row is much more accessible for him.

There are plenty of reasons why it's a good move.

To be fair. Leinster have been good at getting props in from the AIL on a temporary basis over the past few years. We got in Adam Coyle recently enough and Royce Burke Flynn a few years before that.

With respect to Parker, it is a road Leinster probably would have explored if the AIL lads hadn't been a bit undercooked with the lack of competitive rugby and training the last few months

awec

Bazzo wrote: »

This is gas. Images of Nucifora driving around Dublin in a nondescript van throwing a bag over lad's heads and firing them in the back spring to mind.

The IRFU should simultaneously take more and less involvement in player movement depending on whether it suits or not apparently

These are the images that the IRFU and the media don't want you to see.

Wake up Bazzo.

Nucifora out.

Former Former

I've no issue with Leinster players going to other provinces.

What annoys me is when they don't come running straight back whenever Leinster click their fingers. What's that about?

Zzippy

The crocodile tears from Leinster fans when they lose a player they developed to another province. Tastes of, what's what word? Oh yeah. Schadenfreude...

b.gud

molloyjh wrote: »

I think its fairly well accepted that the IRFU encouraged Salanoa to move. The discussion is over whether he was pressurised to or not.

I get that the point I'm trying to make is that if the IRFU wanted him to go to Connacht but he said no and confirmed, even if he went back on it later, that he was going to stay with Leinster, then he obviously didn't feel too much pressure from them and was happy to say no to what they wanted.

Rigor Mortis

Zzippy wrote: »

The crocodile tears from Leinster fans when they lose a player they developed to another province. Tastes of, what's what word? Oh yeah. Schadenfreude...

There is so much wrong with this sentence but I guess the main thing is that you're enjoying yourself.

molloyjh

Zzippy wrote: »

The crocodile tears from Leinster fans when they lose a player they developed to another province. Tastes of, what's what word? Oh yeah. Schadenfreude...

I have absolutely no idea what you mean Zzippy. None. Nope. None at all.

Zzippy

molloyjh wrote: »

I have absolutely no idea what you mean Zzippy. None. Nope. None at all.

Sorry molloy. I promise not to use big foreign words again.

Squidgy Black

Whatever about turning down a move to Galway, I can't imagine anyone voluntarily moving from Dublin to Limerick without being forced. Completely incomprehensible.

Zzippy

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Whatever about turning down a move to Galway, I can't imagine anyone voluntarily moving from Dublin to Limerick without being forced. Completely incomprehensible.

Leinster should just have Angela's Ashes playing on repeat in the academy gym. "See that lads, that's where Munster play, and don't let David Nucifora tell you it's not that wet!"

Squidgy Black

Bit of a wobbly performance but much better second half in terms of keeping Munster at bay, with a lot more defensive pressure.

Doris was unreal though, thought Conan was a bit quiet though. Wouldn't be surprised to see Doris in the 8 shirt with Leavy at 6 and VdF at 7 when all are fit.

Clegg

Strange old game. At times it seemed almost like a training run for our defence. We kept kicking the ball back to Munster. Our attack was pretty shaky in that second half as well. Had lots of possession and territory in the opening 20, but couldn't score.

Overall, I'm happy that we rectified our problems at the lineout and fielding box kicks. We're yet to get out of second gear and a much better performance will be required to beat Ulster or Edinburgh. Wouldn't like to face the latter if we performance to the same level as this evening. Their backs would capitalise on any loose kicking.