Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

Sangre

kingofthekong wrote: »

Becomig a 6'5 prop would be equally as daft a conversion attempt imo

Andrew Sheridan seemed to do alright.

That being said, these conversions never seem to work out no matter the position.

Sangre

bayern wrote: »

plenty history of tall props in the game and currently:

Ofa Tu'ungafasi
Tyrel Lomax
Alex Hodgman
Dan Brennan
Angus Bell
Pone Fa'amausili
Georges-Henri Colombe
Jean-Baptiste Gros
Joe Heyes

How did you manage to list Joe Heyes and not John Hayes

bayern

Sangre wrote: »

How did you manage to list Joe Heyes and not John Hayes

wasn't listing historical players but current.

Clegg

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

And how can we forget the prime example of tall props.........


Tony Buckley :pac::pac::pac:

It's a shame Buckley never managed to learn how to use his body effectively. In the loose he could destructive. Tossing players out of rucks and putting Richie McCaw on his backside with a tackle. And then there were other times when he's slide off easy to make tackles.

Buer

Ben Murphy has joined Munster on short term contract.

Hopefully gets an appearance or two in next month.

arsebiscuits1

Buer wrote: »

Ben Murphy has joined Munster on short term contract.

Hopefully gets an appearance or two in next month.

I think you'd get pretty good odds on it.

They only have Casey and McCarthy for this whole block.

Good on the lad. Hopefully can rack up some senior minutes. He wont be playing AIL for the foreseeable

pickarooney

Sangre wrote: »

Andrew Sheridan seemed to do alright.

That being said, these conversions never seem to work out no matter the position.

Uini Antonio - the only player I've seen play in the first and second rows.

salmocab

Clegg wrote: »

It's a shame Buckley never managed to learn how to use his body effectively. In the loose he could destructive. Tossing players out of rucks and putting Richie McCaw on his backside with a tackle. And then there were other times when he's slide off easy to make tackles.

He was a ruck inspector, he’d stand beside the ruck with one hand on it taking a good look.

Buer

pickarooney wrote: »

Uini Antonio - the only player I've seen play in the first and second rows.

That waster from Bruff did the same.

hirondelle

Clegg wrote: »

It's a shame Buckley never managed to learn how to use his body effectively. In the loose he could destructive. Tossing players out of rucks and putting Richie McCaw on his backside with a tackle. And then there were other times when he's slide off easy to make tackles.

I still can't get past the mental image of (IIRC) at one point Buckley used to pick up Hayes for training, but he only had some beaten-up little Audi hatchback. I'd say the front springs were bet up.

arsebiscuits1

Hawkshaw out with an Abductor strain picked up in captains run.

Silvester on the bench now

sydthebeat

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Hawkshaw out with an Abductor strain picked up in captains run.

Silvester on the bench now

feck

molloyjh

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Hawkshaw out with an Abductor strain picked up in captains run.

Silvester on the bench now

Ah that's really crap for the guy. Comes back after a long period out and now could be back on the sidelines for a few weeks when he could be getting some game time.

kingofthekong

bayern wrote: »

plenty history of tall props in the game and currently:

Ofa Tu'ungafasi
Tyrel Lomax
Alex Hodgman
Dan Brennan
Angus Bell
Pone Fa'amausili
Georges-Henri Colombe
Jean-Baptiste Gros
Joe Heyes

Joe heyes - 6'2
Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 6'4
Tyrel Lomax - 6'3
Alex Hodgman 6'4
Dan Brennan 6'3
Angus Bell 6'3
Pone Fa'amausili 6'4
Georges-Henri Colombe 6'3
Jean-Baptiste Gros 6'0


None of those guys are 6'5, also to be succesful as a player at 6'5 prop is by far the exeption to the rule and not the norm, I could list examples of 6'5 winger or 6'4 scrumhalfs also to prove a point but my comment remains the same, it would be pretty ludicrous to switch to a prop over a 6 at 6'5

bayern

kingofthekong wrote: »

Joe heyes - 6'2
Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 6'4
Tyrel Lomax - 6'3
Alex Hodgman 6'4
Dan Brennan 6'3
Angus Bell 6'3
Pone Fa'amausili 6'4
Georges-Henri Colombe 6'3
Jean-Baptiste Gros 6'0


None of those guys are 6'5, also to be succesful as a player at 6'5 prop is by far the exeption to the rule and not the norm, I could list examples of 6'5 winger or 6'4 scrumhalfs also to prove a point but my comment remains the same, it would be pretty ludicrous to switch to a prop over a 6 at 6'5

he isn't a good enough athlete to be a pro backrow.

Alex Hodgman is listed at 6'5 as is Ofa Tu'ungafasi and Pone Fa'amausili

kingofthekong

bayern wrote: »

he isn't a good enough athlete to be a pro backrow.

Alex Hodgman is listed at 6'5 as is Ofa Tu'ungafasi and Pone Fa'amausili

How bad an athlete could you be where becoming a 6'5 prop would give you a better chance of a career opportunity then improving your athleticism with conditioning and s&C etc

Wikipedia listed them as 6'4 so thats what i grabbed, still....barely any, how many averagely athletic 6's do you see compared to 6'5 props...

thomond2006

Buer wrote: »

That waster from Bruff did the same.

#BeKind

hahashake

kingofthekong wrote: »

How bad an athlete could you be where becoming a 6'5 prop would give you a better chance of a career opportunity then improving your athleticism with conditioning and s&C etc

Wikipedia listed them as 6'4 so thats what i grabbed, still....barely any, how many averagely athletic 6's do you see compared to 6'5 props...

Ask Andrew Sheridan and Carl Hayman. There are plenty of backrows who couldn't scrummage at the top level too.

bayern

kingofthekong wrote: »

How bad an athlete could you be where becoming a 6'5 prop would give you a better chance of a career opportunity then improving your athleticism with conditioning and s&C etc

Wikipedia listed them as 6'4 so thats what i grabbed, still....barely any, how many averagely athletic 6's do you see compared to 6'5 props...

if he was athletic enough to be a backrow he'd have played there when he was younger.. it's not difficult, not everyone is a pro level backrow regardless of height.

AdamD

kingofthekong wrote: »

How bad an athlete could you be where becoming a 6'5 prop would give you a better chance of a career opportunity then improving your athleticism with conditioning and s&C etc

Wikipedia listed them as 6'4 so thats what i grabbed, still....barely any, how many averagely athletic 6's do you see compared to 6'5 props...

I think its more the case that pro-level backrows are athletic freaks, difficult to compete with..

kingofthekong

hahashake wrote: »

Ask Andrew Sheridan and Carl Hayman. There are plenty of backrows who couldn't scrummage at the top level too.

Yep your right this guy is likely to be the next Andrew Sheridan or Carl Heyman

kingofthekong

AdamD wrote: »

I think its more the case that pro-level backrows are athletic freaks, difficult to compete with..

The best are athletic freaks, plenty arent, more averagely athletic blindside lumps then there are Carl Heymans or Andrew Sheridans and its not even close lol

Dog Botherer

Ben Betts is off to Munster

Dog Botherer

Dog Botherer wrote: »

Ben Betts is off to Munster

Murphy* , sorry, force of habit

hahashake

kingofthekong wrote: »

Yep your right this guy is likely to be the next Andrew Sheridan or Carl Heyman

Honestly have no clue and maybe you know the player's strengths. But I do know that Conor Murray is taller than CJ Stander. A literal 1-dimensional evaluation of a player's best position pointless. There are different body types and skillsets/strengths. Cheslin Kolbe may have been told he was too small for a modern day wing and to move in to 9 but now he's the best in the world.

Burkie1203

https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/status/1319703189021655040

bayern

LFG Leavy!!!

Clegg

Playing ok. But coughing up the ball at the worst possible moment.

molloyjh

Clegg wrote: »

Playing ok. But coughing up the ball at the worst possible moment.

Yeah, some of these guys have barely played in months though so to be expected. If it sticks we'll see scores as we're making metres for fun.

Clegg

Toner and Josh Murphy are putting in huge hits.