Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XI (The Finals Countdown)

arsebiscuits1

errlloyd wrote: »

Yeah, Leinster only scored 132 tries this season. Sad.

Side note, sickened to finish the pro14 on 99. I presume there aren't a lot of centuries in Pro14 history.

There's none.

Leinster broke their own record which they set last season which they broke from the season before ha.

Getting the even ton would have been nice.

Podge_irl

Heymans wrote: »

Really? What about the static attack we had in the Champions Cup final? When we come across teams that are interested in fronting up we are limited. Thanks for your incisive insight.

Except in this case "teams that are interested" is a category populated by literally one team.

Also, some of the biggest problems we had in that final were occasions when Leinster were uncharacteristically careless with possession.

sydthebeat

Heymans wrote: »

Really? What about the static attack we had in the Champions Cup final? When we come across teams that are interested in fronting up we are limited. Thanks for your incisive insight.

your negative view point doesnt deserve discussion... its more of a reflection of yourself than any debate worthy insight.

Leinster have broken the try scoring record in the pro14 for two years in a row now....
scored the highest tries in the 2018 ECC with 30, and 33 in 2019... only matched by the eventual winners saracens.

if you want to watch teams flinging the ball around with abandon go follow fiji sevens...... becuase you obvously dont understand whats needed to succeed at the 15s game.

errlloyd

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

There's none.

Leinster broke their own record which they set last season which they broke from the season before ha.

Getting the even ton would have been nice.

Yeah had a look at the table, 4 years ago 70 tries was a good total.

Heymans

sydthebeat wrote: »

your negative view point doesnt deserve discussion... its more of a reflection of yourself than any debate worthy insight.

Leinster have broken the try scoring record in the pro14 for two years in a row now....
scored the highest tries in the 2018 ECC with 30, and 33 in 2019... only matched by the eventual winners saracens.

if you want to watch teams flinging the ball around with abandon go follow fiji sevens...... becuase you obvously dont understand whats needed to succeed at the 15s game.

Personally I would prefer to watch the Leinster of '05 play than I would the Leinster of '18 play. To win with style is the Unicorn I'm looking for.

Heymans

arsebiscuits1 wrote: »

Do you think people are just determined to be unhappy about everything about a team they supposedly support or is it their default and they can't help it?

I pity someone of either mentality

Or else they are perfectionists always looking for the extra 2-3%. Nothing wrong with continuous improvement.

sydthebeat

Heymans wrote: »

Personally I would prefer to watch the Leinster of '05 play than I would the Leinster of '18 play. To win with style is the Unicorn I'm looking for.

there was a hell of a lot of dirge played by Leinster in the end of the kidney / start of the cheika era...... an inability to win away in France..... and consistent failings at the business end of the season showings in the pro 12.

if you want to go back to that off with you... it will be a solo journey.

Heymans

sydthebeat wrote: »

there was a hell of a lot of dirge played by Leinster in the end of the kidney / start of the cheika era...... an inability to win away in France..... and consistent failings at the business end of the season showings in the pro 12.

if you want to go back to that off with you... it will be a solo journey.

I seem to remember Leinster winning in style against Toulouse in France in April '06. The backline was better than it is now and went forward in possession. Winning is not everything and you have heard the coaching mantra of "performance" being the key element in deciphering a teams ability.

sydthebeat

Heymans wrote: »

I seem to remember Leinster winning in style against Toulouse in France in April '06. The backline was better than it is now and went forward in possession. Winning is not everything and you have heard the coaching mantra of "performance" being the key element in deciphering a teams ability.

4 months earlier in the same season Leinster were beaten by the whipping boys Bourgoin in France, and at home by Bath ...... everything wasnt all spakles and unicorn jizz...


"winning isnt everything" is perhaps the worst mantra you can ascribe to a professional sports team.

while its a pointless comparative, but the Leinster team of 2018 would beat the '05 team many, many times over.

Clegg

Ahh the halcyon days of the Ladyboys. Brilliant hair, brilliant trys, won jack****.

Let us never go there again.

Burkie1203

Clegg wrote: »

Ahh the halcyon days of the Ladyboys. Brilliant hair, brilliant trys, won jack****.

Let us never go there again.

That's Munster now.

Clegg

Burkie1203 wrote: »

That's Munster now.

PoM wishes he had D'arcys glorious flowing mane.

Rigor Mortis

Burkie1203 wrote: »

That's Munster now.

Without the brilliant hair and tries

jacothelad

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not vein enough to be worse than Buer.

Bloody spelling.....:D

Yeah_Right

Heymans wrote: »

I seem to remember Leinster winning in style against Toulouse in France in April '06. The backline was better than it is now and went forward in possession. Winning is not everything and you have heard the coaching mantra of "performance" being the key element in deciphering a teams ability.

I seem to remember you posting something completely different to that previously. Was it during a conversation about kids or under-age teams?

jacothelad

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

Without the brilliant hair and tries

I'm still laughing. Very funny. :D:D:D:D:D

durthacht

Heymans wrote: »

Really? What about the static attack we had in the Champions Cup final? When we come across teams that are interested in fronting up we are limited. Thanks for your incisive insight.

Yes, Leinster's attack was poor in that game but I disagree that was a lack of expansive play. Saracens defence was so brilliant that there was probably no way to pass through it, and Leinster should have kicked much more to get Saracens on the back foot. Kicking is often seen as the opposite of expansive play which is why I disagree with your analysis. I thought Leinster's problem was poor game management and not enough intelligent kicking.

Otherwise, I think their attack is excellent and as good as any club side in Europe. The wing options are better than three or four years ago, and the centres are Lions standard although I worry about the lack of a second playmaker.

Burkie1203

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

Without the brilliant hair and tries

Arno Botha has the hair

Shefwedfan

Heymans wrote: »

I seem to remember Leinster winning in style against Toulouse in France in April '06. The backline was better than it is now and went forward in possession. Winning is not everything and you have heard the coaching mantra of "performance" being the key element in deciphering a teams ability.

Watch the first try in the Toulouse match in Aviva this season

Rigor Mortis

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Arno Botha has the hair

That makes it sound like they have one set of hair that they share. A bit like the strange Cork/Limerick arrangement. The hair moves around to ensure everyone gets a go.

mark_way

molloyjh wrote: »

Or maybe you could just disagree in a civil way rather than having a go. Play the ball, not the man if you will.

That was me being civil. Sorry if I'm a bit too real for some people.

molloyjh

mark_way wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

Or maybe you could just disagree in a civil way rather than having a go. Play the ball, not the man if you will.

That was me being civil. Sorry if I'm a bit too real for some people.

That wasn't real. It was aggressive and immature. But knock yourself out if you want to continue posting like that. That stuff only ever reflects on you and the level and quality of responses you get will sink to that level.

Real, I mean that actually just made me laugh. You were just missing the air quotes.

mark_way

molloyjh wrote: »

That wasn't real. It was aggressive and immature. But knock yourself out if you want to continue posting like that. That stuff only ever reflects on you and the level and quality of responses you get will sink to that level.

Real, I mean that actually just made me laugh. You were just missing the air quotes.

Lol yeah watever, pal. Ur just sore coz I called u out on your keyboard warrior post saying you disliked Zebo. U were probably the first to jump down someone's throat if they brought up Heaslip's personality as a negative.

Shefwedfan

mark_way wrote: »

Lol yeah watever, pal. Ur just sore coz I called u out on your keyboard warrior post saying you disliked Zebo. U were probably the first to jump down someone's throat if they brought up Heaslip's personality as a negative.

What was up with heaslips personality?

Burkie1203

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What was up with heaslips personality?

I think Heaslips comments about not watching a lot of rugby and his social media stuff and outside interests (business ventures etc) annoyed people for some bizarre reason.

I always found him to be a very interesting character. A really driven individual who didnt see rugby as the be all of life.

connemara man

Burkie1203 wrote: »

I think Heaslips comments about not watching a lot of rugby and his social media stuff and outside interests (business ventures etc) annoyed people for some bizarre reason.

I always found him to be a very interesting character. A really driven individual who didnt see rugby as the be all of life.

But but but the headphones!!!!

molloyjh

mark_way wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

That wasn't real. It was aggressive and immature. But knock yourself out if you want to continue posting like that. That stuff only ever reflects on you and the level and quality of responses you get will sink to that level.

Real, I mean that actually just made me laugh. You were just missing the air quotes.

Lol yeah watever, pal. Ur just sore coz I called u out on your keyboard warrior post saying you disliked Zebo. U were probably the first to jump down someone's throat if they brought up Heaslip's personality as a negative.

I'm not your pal, guy.

Shefwedfan

Burkie1203 wrote: »

I think Heaslips comments about not watching a lot of rugby and his social media stuff and outside interests (business ventures etc) annoyed people for some bizarre reason.

I always found him to be a very interesting character. A really driven individual who didnt see rugby as the be all of life.

Well if that’s the reason I think people need to look at themselves

Heymans

Yeah_Right wrote: »

I seem to remember you posting something completely different to that previously. Was it during a conversation about kids or under-age teams?

I think you need to understand the difference between humour and geniune commentary. I jested that my 7 year olds winning was the most important thing in my life. Humour transplant on aisle 4.

Heymans

sydthebeat wrote: »

4 months earlier in the same season Leinster were beaten by the whipping boys Bourgoin in France, and at home by Bath ...... everything wasnt all spakles and unicorn jizz...


"winning isnt everything" is perhaps the worst mantra you can ascribe to a professional sports team.

while its a pointless comparative, but the Leinster team of 2018 would beat the '05 team many, many times over.

They might lose because the packs aren't even but the 05/06 backline was sparkling compared to the impotence we have today in our backs. That Toulouse win away from home was the beginning of the golden era of Leinster. We have tried to stretch that out with dross rugby by grinding teams down. It's not as catching to the eye to watch and it's boring rugby grinding teams down up front.