Tesla Model 3 thread - V2.0

unkel

Hate white and there's no way I would pay two grand extra for paint. Mine would be black.

ainsyjnr

I own a black car and keeping it clean is a nightmare. white on Irish country roads could look terrible after a few days. I was thinking grey but that's a bit easy. blue, too much like the bmw's in the car park. not paying 2 grand for red.

will ceramic coating the black protect it and keep it looking better for longer? will that work on the white?

ELM327

unkel wrote: »

Hate white and there's no way I would pay two grand extra for paint. Mine would be black.

Certainly wouldnt pay extra for white!


Black cars (like my Ioniq was) are very difficult to keep pristine as they accumulate dirt and microscratches like no one's business.


I'm not bothered on my current bangernomics offerings but on new cars it affects the resale or PCP value. I think I'm probably going to end up with black though as if I get the performance one I'll be stretching the budget and color is one of the first non essentials to cut. Certainly I'd prefer a black one with FSD and the white interior compared to a non FSD black interior blue car.

jarrieta

I was exactly discussing this with my OH, we like the red, but I heard that about being dull a few times already when light is not great or a bit dirty. Preference was blue with white interior but dog travels with us (whether on cage in the back seats) or in the passenger seat when there is somebody there, so don't think it is very feasible.

I like grey in the S but don't think I like it that much with the 3 shape and size. Quite a challenge tbh for us...

jfk75

unkel wrote: »

Hate white and there's no way I would pay two grand extra for paint. Mine would be black.

Just sticking with the standard Black too. The Grey is really nice though, showroom has body panel samples on display if anyone is interested.

Dont be at yourself

Definitely white for me, have always had white cars. Hangover of living in Japan. It's pearlescent white on the Teslas which looks a lovely job.

dingledosser

ainsyjnr wrote: »

will ceramic coating the black protect it and keep it looking better for longer? will that work on the white?

It will, but you'd be better getting it done immediately, because any micro scratches on black can look worse under ceramic. Much less noticeable on white.

unkel

jarrieta wrote:

dog travels with us (whether on cage in the back seats) or in the passenger seat when there is somebody there

I guess you never have to transport dog + 5 people?

Our dog is pretty much the only reason I'm not getting a Model 3

dingledosser

unkel wrote: »

I guess you never have to transport dog + 5 people?

Our dog is pretty much the only reason I'm not getting a Model 3

You just need to change the rules. Going somewhere with the dog? That's a trip for the wife's car so!

unkel

It would be the wife's car!

Would be a lot harder to get the 5 of us plus large dog into my 2 seater Porsche. It does have a trunk and a frunk though

ELM327

dingledosser wrote: »

You just need to change the rules. Going somewhere with the dog? That's a trip for the wife's car so!

I'd be changing the rules to no animals in my €60k car

dingledosser

unkel wrote: »

It would be the wife's car!

Would be a lot harder to get the 5 of us plus large dog into my 2 seater Porsche. It does have a trunk and a frunk though

I see an idea for Dragons Den... a Ruff Rack!

unkel

ELM327 wrote: »

I'd be changing the rules to no animals in my €60k car

I already have 3 animals of the human variety. Far worse than the dog in what they do to the car, but fortunately they don't shed as much hair

smokybacon

Put the dog in the frunk. He can press eject button while moving. That’s why the display one was warped.

We have big lab doodle. When in model 3 he will have his head and front feet and maybe abdomen sticking out on forwarded onethird of back of pushed forward seat back. God help us in accident but Tesla’s don’t crash do they?

unkel

smokybacon wrote: »

he will have his head and front feet and maybe abdomen sticking out on forwarded onethird of back of pushed forward seat back.

Maybe it's me but I can't seem to picture this

smokybacon

Saw this referenced elsewhere. To be published by end in May. Mentions 700000 cars by 2030. Would need to be cheaper EV prices to achieve this maybe no Vrt at all or vat? If we order now and the taxes change surely final amount due is adjusted? Like Norways prices. [Government would loose taxes from petrol / diesel which they need to keep the current govnt high standards to Norway’s levels, not.]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/climate-change-plan-carbon-taxes-seen-as-best-way-to-reduce-pollution-1.3897598?mode=amp

kev22185

Black Model 3 for me. I'll be taking the aero caps off, paint protecting and probably dechroming as soon after delivery as possible

slave1

Blue

SaintsYB

I'd love the Red but not at the price it is. Blue is probably what I'd go for.

Neworder79

The Grey may as well be Black from a distance, but at least a more metallic finish. I've yet to see it close up.

Pity they discontinued Silver, it really showed off the cars lines and sleek design, contrasted well with the glass roof and white seats.

sk8board

dingledosser wrote: »

It will, but you'd be better getting it done immediately, because any micro scratches on black can look worse under ceramic. Much less noticeable on white.

The ceramic is brilliant in my experience - however it won’t keep the black car looking any cleaner in manky Irish conditions necessarily - it looks great on wash day and otherwise makes dirt easier to shift with a quick power wash, and only do the full clean every 2nd or 3rd time. I use one of the 3-4 year ceramics now, I just don’t want the maintenance

Colour is such a personal choice, but I definitely wouldn’t buy a new black car again. It’s not worth the effort imho.

digiman

Neworder79 wrote: »

The Grey may as well be Black from a distance, but at least a more metallic finish. I've yet to see it close up.

Pity they discontinued Silver, it really showed off the cars lines and sleek design, contrasted well with the glass roof and white seats.

Looks class, I would go blue if that colour is no longer available.

dingledosser

kev22185 wrote: »

Black Model 3 for me. I'll be taking the aero caps off, paint protecting and probably dechroming as soon after delivery as possible

Apparently you lose 10% range without the aero caps.

unkel

dingledosser wrote: »

Apparently you lose 10% range without the aero caps.

That seems a gross overestimation to me. Maybe at sustained motorway speeds. But I refuse to believe it makes much of a difference at average speeds (in a WLTP / ETA cycle). Any links?

xCiaránx

Judging by the range table on Teslike it's ~4.2%, which translates to a loss of range of about 14km at the lowest (SR) to 23km at the highest (LR RWD). Those Model 3 variants are only available off-menu (if we'll even see them over here at all) but the loss of range for the more common ones will fall somethere in between.

hatrack

Neworder79 wrote: »

The Grey may as well be Black from a distance, but at least a more metallic finish. I've yet to see it close up.

Pity they discontinued Silver, it really showed off the cars lines and sleek design, contrasted well with the glass roof and white seats.

Silver with black alloys and chrome delete is absolutely gorgeous. Really wish they were still doing it.

Presume you could get a silver wrap done though - anyone know how much it costs to get a car wrapped here? Seems to be a big thing in the States.

Still no configurator anyway so all these is just a pipe dream.

Sabre Man

TESLA MODEL 3 VS. BMW 330I VS. GENESIS G70 COMPARISON

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-3/2018/tesla-model-3-vs-bmw-330i-vs-genesis-g70-comparison-test/

kev22185

unkel wrote: »

That seems a gross overestimation to me. Maybe at sustained motorway speeds. But I refuse to believe it makes much of a difference at average speeds (in a WLTP / ETA cycle). Any links?

Yeah I did read there was a slight loss range alright, didn't read 10% anywhere though. Most of my driving will be in and around Leinster. I'll pop them back on for long distances but it seems weird to cover up the really attractive alloys underneath.

unkel

hatrack wrote: »

Presume you could get a silver wrap done though - anyone know how much it costs to get a car wrapped here?

On a car the size of a Model 3 a professional wrap would cost about €1300-€1400

Get the car in black, immediately have it wrapped for less than what metallic paint + protective coating costs and when you come to sell it, you could remove the wrap to sell an unblemished car

Not a bad plan, hatrack

smokybacon

If govn incentives increase between order and delivery/ final payment time do you pay the lower price?

In US at least you paid whatever the price was on the day of delivery. That was one of the reasons Tesla was pushing on the US deliveries on Q4/18 as the incentives in US were going down on Q1/19. It would make sense that the same was here as the grant only gets processed once the car has arrived just before you get the keys.

smokybacon

samih wrote: »

In US at least you paid whatever the price was on the day of delivery. That was one of the reasons Tesla was pushing on the US deliveries on Q4/18 as the incentives in US were going down on Q1/19. It would make sense that the same was here as the grant only gets processed once the car has arrived just before you get the keys.

Wondering about budget 2020 in October might be around time of delivery!

SaintsYB

I was in Dublin today so I popped out to Sandyford to finally take a look at the Model 3. There were a few things I noticed about the car.

The steering wheel seemed quite small. Anyone else think that?I'm sure I'd get used to it very quickly if I had one though.

The other thing is the screen. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about it in person in terms of it being distracting or not, and thankfully it seemed like it isn't though sitting in the showroom can only tell you so much. It seemed like it should be angled more towards the driver ever so slightly. It felt like a bit of a stretch to get across to the far side of it. Other than that though, the graphics are top notch, crystal clear, no lag. Exactly what you want.

Other than that, I absolutely need to drive it when they have a driving model.

creedp

SaintsYB wrote: »

I was in Dublin today so I popped out to Sandyford to finally take a look at the Model 3. There were a few things I noticed about the car.

The steering wheel seemed quite small. Anyone else think that?I'm sure I'd get used to it very quickly if I had one though.

The other thing is the screen. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about it in person in terms of it being distracting or not, and thankfully it seemed like it isn't though sitting in the showroom can only tell you so much. It seemed like it should be angled more towards the driver ever so slightly. It felt like a bit of a stretch to get across to the far side of it. Other than that though, the graphics are top notch, crystal clear, no lag. Exactly what you want.

Other than that, I absolutely need to drive it when they have a driving model.

Have to say the touch screen approach taken by Tesla for all major controls would make me thing twice about a Model 3. I'm sure it was designed with full autonomous driving in mind but that's a long way off at this point and I certainly would not be enthusiastic about having to use a touch screen for all controls while on the move.

ted1

creedp wrote: »

Have to say the touch screen approach taken by Tesla for all major controls would make me thing twice about a Model 3. I'm sure it was designed with full autonomous driving in mind but that's a long way off at this point and I certainly would not be enthusiastic about having to use a touch screen for all controls while on the move.

Is there controls on the steering wheel ?

Mec-a-nic

ted1 wrote: »

Is there controls on the steering wheel ?

There are two scroll-wheel buttons on the steering wheel, and they have different functions depending on what mode the car is in.

https://interestingengineering.com/tesla-moves-autopilot-controls-to-steering-wheel-for-model-3-units

There is also voice control for drivers commands and automatic controls for other functions (lights, wipers) so the number of screen clicks is reduced.

dingledosser

Having driven it, I can tell you you get used to the screen very quickly, it’s not a distraction at all.
And the wheel is fine, no different to the wheel in my Honda.

SaintsYB wrote: »

I was in Dublin today so I popped out to Sandyford to finally take a look at the Model 3. There were a few things I noticed about the car.

The steering wheel seemed quite small. Anyone else think that?I'm sure I'd get used to it very quickly if I had one though.

The other thing is the screen. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about it in person in terms of it being distracting or not, and thankfully it seemed like it isn't though sitting in the showroom can only tell you so much. It seemed like it should be angled more towards the driver ever so slightly. It felt like a bit of a stretch to get across to the far side of it. Other than that though, the graphics are top notch, crystal clear, no lag. Exactly what you want.

Other than that, I absolutely need to drive it when they have a driving model.

digiman

Do Tesla take a trade-in?

Anyone know how they value your car compared to other dealers?

Gumbo

digiman wrote: »

Do Tesla take a trade-in?

Anyone know how they value your car compared to other dealers?

Same as every other dealer. They take the details and send them out to small dealers that have agreed to be in their mailing list. They come back with prices that they will offer for your car.

What I’m not sure of if, you trade in directly to Tesla or if you do the deal separately with the third party garage.

Sabre Man

kceire wrote: »

Same as every other dealer. They take the details and send them out to small dealers that have agreed to be in their mailing list. They come back with prices that they will offer for your car.

What I’m not sure of if, you trade in directly to Tesla or if you do the deal separately with the third party garage.

Tesla will put you in touch with a local dealer. At least that's what happened in my case. Might be different if you're trading in a Tesla.

unkel

Sabre Man wrote: »

Might be different if you're trading in a Tesla.

And here's hoping many, many owners of aging Model S will trade "up" to a brand new Model 3. I'd happily pick up one of their dumped cars for a very good price

rfitzg

Hi all. Test drove the new Model S today in Sandyford and had a sit into the left hand drive sample Model 3. First impressions are beautiful car, gorgeous lines and stunning in red.

The panoramic roof is excellent but man is this car small! Maybe this was just my perception as it was parked between a Model X and S and I’m 1.98m or 6’5” tall. I tried to sit into it but struggled to fit even after moving steering column and seat. I’m not fat either

Guess I’ll stick with my model S hunt! Just a word of warning if you’re a tall Tesla fan.

unkel

I really don't get that. My best mate is 6'4 and he fits fine in his Tesla Model 3 with a good bit of space to spare.

He struggled badly to get into my Porsche convertible though, which is not a problem at all for me (a bit under 6'2)

Maybe you have really short legs and a really long upper body or something?

xCiaránx

I'm 6'5" and a little worried about the height thing myself, I'll have to call out the Sandyford soon and have a sit.

xCiaránx

I will say, that 3/S comparison seems to be the opposite of the opinions I've seen online of taller people liking the 3 more. Here's a direct comparison from another 6'5" human. I can definitely see how not having the bottom corner of the longer S screen around your knee area would be better.

rfitzg

unkel wrote: »

I really don't get that. My best mate is 6'4 and he fits fine in his Tesla Model 3 with a good bit of space to spare.

He struggled badly to get into my Porsche convertible though, which is not a problem at all for me (a bit under 6'2)

Maybe you have really short legs and a really long upper body or something?

Ha ha I assure you unkel, I’m a perfectly average freak of nature!!

To be fair I’m going to try the M3 right hand drive as soon as it’s available. Maybe it was just the way it was set in the showroom. I found my thighs were squeezed under the steering wheel when getting in. Once I was in it wasn’t too bad but did feel a bit too close to the roof. This is just my opinion guys. HTH

rfitzg

rfitzg wrote: »

Ha ha I assure you unkel, I’m a perfectly average freak of nature!!

To be fair I’m going to try the M3 right hand drive as soon as it’s available. Maybe it was just the way it was set in the showroom. I found my thighs were squeezed under the steering wheel when getting in. Once I was in it wasn’t too bad but did feel a bit too close to the roof. This is just my opinion guys. HTH

Hmm. All these years I’ve been lying to myself! Just checked and 1.98m is actually 6’6” so I am even taller again! I guess that extra inch makes all the difference!

Sabre Man

rfitzg wrote: »

Test drove the new Model S

What do you mean by "new Model S"? Have they got the Raven spec Model S already?

ainsyjnr

what do you reckon?
a. sr+, paint, wheels, fsd or
b. lr, black.

Creamy Goodness

Sat in the model 3 in Sandyford today. It’s pretty nice. Think I have the missus sold on it when she saw the shopping bag hooks in the front boot :pac: