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Only as far as the first add break but its been brilliant so far. (IMO)

Please please please continue

soap1978

Enjoying it here

OptimusTractor

People actually thought there was going to be more dragons appearing out of nowhere.

Necro

This is ****ing brilliant

J. Marston

Hmm, last week one ship hit a hat-trick of bolts on Rhaegal. Now the entire Iron Fleet and the walls of Kings Landing can't hit one on Drogon?

Still enjoying it though. Emilia Clarke plays paranoid/broken Dany really well.

th283

I loved the scene between Tyrion and Jaime!

Turtwig

J. Marston wrote: »

Hmm, last week one ship hit a hat-trick of bolts on Rhaegal. Now the entire Iron Fleet and the walls of Kings Landing can't hit one on Drogon?

Still enjoying it though. Emilia Clarke plays paranoid/broken Dany really well.

I thought same but her flight path was rather well planned out. She had element of surprise they were sitting ducks once their first volleys missed.

J. Marston

Well, Dany is full tyrant now. Disappointed.

PTH2009

Really enjoying this

Amazing bloody as hell. Guess the good guys were not so good in the end

Deeper Blue

Enjoying the episode but Euron and Jaime just happening to meet was completely ridiculous

soap1978

Hate when Jamie said he didn't care about the people

Fluorescence

Emelia Clarke actually acting very well this episode. I'm impressed.

Deco99

So Jamie not there to kill cersei? I'm gripped what could possibly be left next week

Necro

J. Marston wrote:

Well, Dany is full tyrant now. Disappointed.

I'm not actually. Kinda hoped they wouldn't pull punches, it's the reality of war tbh.

Liamalone

Thought Greyworm was going to sneakily kill Jon Snow there.

soap1978

Grey worm gone nuts

Liamalone

soap1978 wrote: »

Grey worm gone nuts

Knows his master's mind.

soap1978

What colour eyes are danys

OptimusTractor

So a battle between those loyal to the Starks/Jon and those loyal to Dany next week.

Ferajacka

Mother of dragons
Mother of f*$k

Necro

Is that enough main character deaths for you now?

PTH2009

Massive episode

Thank you for everything Cersi, Kingslayer and of course the hound

Can't stand Arya for some reason and was hoping she would meet her end but no

1 more episode too go

leggo

Prophecy is never what you think it is in this show. Cersei died with her brother’s hands around her neck.

Fluorescence

The leaked spoilers were dead on the money. Thought it all sounded pretty stupid, but the episode actually pulled it off. Beautifully shot, all the actors really doing a good job, music was killer. Great episode, even if the plot imo was ridiculous. Well enjoyed it!

Petyr Baelish

Queen of the ashes.

Deeper Blue

Disappointed by

Cersei's (presumable) death, was hoping it'd be more brutal

mrkiscool2

J. Marston wrote: »

Hmm, last week one ship hit a hat-trick of bolts on Rhaegal. Now the entire Iron Fleet and the walls of Kings Landing can't hit one on Drogon?

Still enjoying it though. Emilia Clarke plays paranoid/broken Dany really well.

Hmmm, wonder what the difference is? The fact Dany knew where the Iron fleet and Scorpions were? The fact that she knew to expect more powerful bolts? Hell, what about the fact she saw where they were aiming and was able to use the quicker dragon to dodge? Nah, has to be like it was that one time everytime, like in real life!

No, but seriously, what an episode. Some amazing, powerful moments even if some were fan service. Dany is a tryant and Jon knows it. Even her not giving Varys last words despite, a few hours ago in show time, Cersei gave Messandai a chance to say hers. Burning the lot when Kings Landing fell was horrid, emotional and great writing. Even the trailer for the next episode

sells Dany as a tryant

. Also, the fact her dream wasn't about the White Walkers at all, but about how she takes the throne was amazing. Nice, well written, twist.

RickBlaine

NDWC wrote: »

Disappointed by

Cersei's (presumable) death, was hoping it'd be more brutal

I think they made Cersei to be as sympathetic as possible in this episode. She was basically terrified for most of it. Dany was the real villain of the episode.

Deeper Blue

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Even the trailer for the next episode

I (and presumably many others) don't want to hear about the trailer for the next episode. Might want to spoiler it

cian68

I really liked the episode but can't believe they did a literal 'eye for an eye' bit with the Cleganes. Not as clever as they thought.

PTH2009

Wheres Bronn ??

shrewdness

Need time to digest that, second half of the episode was pure nuts. Cersei's death was a little underwhelming, I'd expected someone to do her to get revenge but no, even in death she kinda got away with it a little. And Jaime was with her to the end, suppose it fits well.

One thing that annoyed me a bit was how Jaime was still strolling around fairly fine after Euron had stabbed him in the torso fairly badly twice. He looked completely fecked after the first, but the second one looked more like a.shot of adrenaline!

Anyway don't want to pick holes too much as I was gripped. Dany has lost the plot completely, Jon must be changing his allegiance now. Lools like they're set for a showdown now but God knows how it'll all play out.

J. Marston

Not sure how they even approach Dany in the final episode now. Gone completely off the deep end.

Ferajacka

RickBlaine wrote: »

I think they made Cersei to be as sympathetic as possible in this episode. She was basically terrified for most of it. Dany was the real villain of the episode.

I still don't forgive C and J for what they did to Ned and Bran so reckon they got what they deserved.

Grayditch

I can't even convey they the disappointment....

Deeper Blue

RickBlaine wrote: »

I think they made Cersei to be as sympathetic as possible in this episode. She was basically terrified for most of it. Dany was the real villain of the episode.

But considering all that she's done over the last 8 seasons surely we deserved to see her get her comeuppance à la Joffrey? I feel a bit cheated tbh

Necro

The initial buzz I got from Dany taking down the fleet and the ballistas was amazing. Cos, let's face it those things were like those cheat codes everyone used to know in GTA.

Then the bells begin to ring yet she burns the entire city and suddenly you're like... um, ok that's not right.....you've won now
OMFG you're now committing mass murder you Mad Queen!!!

I thought that was absolutely unbelievable. The acting, the way scenes were shot.

I'm sure some will come on and whinge about some nitpicking nonsense but can we all just take a moment and realise this was not a movie but a TV show, a feature length episode that was simply amazing.

ardinn

I was like


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Airyfairy12

Why did she burn the place down after they surrendered? Made no sense at all, and how did Arya survive the dragon fire? She was literally surrounded by ash and charred bodies but didn't even singe her hair? Made no sense.

nix

I enjoyed it, mainly because literally everything got burned to the ground. But it was all completely silly tbh

It was a pretty solid episode, up until the bells rang. She attacked with pretty much surgical precision, knocking out all major defenses and opening the way for her infantry. Then just says "**** it" and kills everybody... LOL

Dany has always done what was right or what she had to do, but never ever, not once was it at the cost of innocent life for 7+ seasons. And In the space of two episodes she puts Darth Vader to shame and single handedly commits genocide on her own people and civilians of kings landing :pac:

soap1978

nix wrote:

Dany has always done what was right or what she had to do, but never ever, not once was it at the cost of innocent life for 7+ seasons. And In the space of two episodes she puts Darth Vader to shame and single handedly commits genocide on her own people and civilians of kings landing

PMS

ardinn

nix wrote: »

I enjoyed it, mainly because literally everything got burned to the ground. But it was all completely silly tbh

It was a pretty solid episode, up until the bells rang. She attacked with pretty much surgical precision, knocking out all major defenses and opening the way for her infantry. Then just says "**** it" and kills everybody... LOL

Dany has always done what was right or what she had to do, but never ever, not once was it at the cost of innocent life for 7+ seasons. And In the space of two episodes she puts Darth Vader to shame and single handedly commits genocide on her own people and civilians of kings landing :pac:

she turned mad queen - I thought it was fairly obvious

RickBlaine

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Why did she burn the place down after they surrendered? Made no sense at all, and how did Arya survive the dragon fire? She was literally surrounded by ash and charred bodies but didn't even singe her hair? Made no sense.

nix wrote: »

I enjoyed it, mainly because literally everything got burned to the ground. But it was all completely silly tbh

It was a pretty solid episode, up until the bells rang. She attacked with pretty much surgical precision, knocking out all major defenses and opening the way for her infantry. Then just says "**** it" and kills everybody... LOL

Dany has always done what was right or what she had to do, but never ever, not once was it at the cost of innocent life for 7+ seasons. And In the space of two episodes she puts Darth Vader to shame and single handedly commits genocide on her own people and civilians of kings landing :pac:

In the space of a short time, she has lost Ser Jorah, one of her Dragons, Missandre; had a claim to the throne threatened by Jon; rejected by Jon as a lover; and witnessed the people of Westeros treat her as an outsider while revering Jon.

To quote the Joker from The Dark Night, "madness is like gravity...all it takes is a little push"

ShaneU

nix wrote: »

I enjoyed it, mainly because literally everything got burned to the ground. But it was all completely silly tbh

It was a pretty solid episode, up until the bells rang. She attacked with pretty much surgical precision, knocking out all major defenses and opening the way for her infantry. Then just says "**** it" and kills everybody... LOL

Dany has always done what was right or what she had to do, but never ever, not once was it at the cost of innocent life for 7+ seasons. And In the space of two episodes she puts Darth Vader to shame and single handedly commits genocide on her own people and civilians of kings landing :pac:

Everyone she trusted either died or betrayed her, she chose to rule by fear because no one loved her.

mrkiscool2

RickBlaine wrote: »

In the space of a short time, she has lost Ser Jorah, one of her Dragons, Missandre; had a claim to the throne threatened by Jon; rejected by Jon as a lover; and witnessed the people of Westeros treat her as an outsidee while revering Jon.

To quote the Joker from The Dark Night, "madness is like gravity...all it takes is a little push"

Honestly, even if this was all we saw in the way of her "being mad" all those reasons would make sense.

However, she has literally murdered anyone opposed to her on countless occasions. She has done some pretty crazy and wreckless things (stepping into her husbands burning pyre, reacted like a sociopath when her brother was killed, made a plot to kill all the Khalsars to inherit the Dothraki etc. etc.) in the name of power. She is power-mad and it makes absolute sense for her to do what she did.

Like, say what you want about the first four episodes. I've enjoyed them but I can see the gripes. Hell, I've even agreed with some. But this episode makes sense in so many ways.

bur

She knows the people will never love her so chose to rule by fear.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Only as far as the first add break but its been brilliant so far. (IMO)

Please please please continue

Just finished it there and I thought that was excellent a truly brilliant piece of entertainment.

That was gripping from start to finish and so well paced.

I really loved Cerci's finish as it showed her up to be, what she was a very immature character confused about her feelings and the only way she dealt with them was through over reactions to them.

I don't normally notice stuff so it was probably very obvious but the wildfire that went off as denarous tore down the city, obviously shows Cerci had planned to do the same if forces had gotten that far.

I'm still unsure as to who set the bell off though.

It was fantastic IMO, and thats from someone who gave the last 2 episodes major ****

Grayditch

Looked like absolute garbage aswel.

nix

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

stepping into her husbands burning pyre

Well she was fooked anyway and she knew she couldnt burn from previous experiences, like taking the bath in the scalding water.

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

reacted like a sociopath when her brother was killed

Yeah she should have been real choked up when her actual sociopath brother, who beat her, whored her out and claimed he would let the entire dothraki army rape her if it got him back on the iron throne, pretty much committed suicide swinging his sword and throwing insults at a load of savages :pac:

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

made a plot to kill all the Khalsars to inherit the Dothraki

a power play yes, but they all wanted to rape/kill her, and they would have if she didnt burn/kill them first, and she did so without.. guess what! without killing any innocent..

Again im not against this transition she made, i just think they should have done a more fluid progression to her getting like that.. Pretty sure her Father took a lot longer than a finger snap before he started with his bonfire parties :pac:

Also the whole thing was done superbly, visually for me at least from an understanding they didnt have an unlimited cgi budget.

They really focused on the people in the epsiode while making the last dragon an random threat (similar to the white walkers in earlier seasons)

I know the dragon and denarous had a big scene but after that it was so well done everyone in the city under constant threat of dying (again very like GOT)

And we got IMO a great death scene, when I thought they were getting away with it Jamie and Cerci died as when I saw the building start to fall I didnt think it would get to them (it was really well oppositely forshadowed)

I didnt even expect to be this far in the story this week so next week is already a head scrathcer in some ways