The Alabama senate has voted to ban abortion after six weeks

pinkyeye

snowcat wrote: »

You can babysit her if you want. My amazing first child.

Which first child is this? The one whose heartbeat you heard at 4 weeks or the one whose heartbeat was undetectable?

volchitsa

snowcat wrote: »

4 weeks after pregnancy was CONFIRMED through test..not conception. I saw my babies heartbeat at 4 weeks approx after test. Not conception.

Lol. Step away from the spade, dude.

pinkyeye

snowcat wrote: »

My wife had 2 pregnancies. One perfectly beautiful child where we saw the heartbeat at about 8 weeks from conception. One miscarriage about a year and a half ago where we aborted the baby about 8 weeks from conception due to no heartbeat.

As well as the one where you heard the heartbeat at 4 weeks??

That's a lot of pregnancies. :rolleyes:

Timberrrrrrrr

snowcat wrote: »

My wife had 2 pregnancies. One perfectly beautiful child where we saw the heartbeat at about 8 weeks from conception. One miscarriage about a year and a half ago where we aborted the baby about 8 weeks from conception due to no heartbeat.

So you changed to pro life after seeing your 1st childs heart beat then your wife had an abortion?

Sardonicat

snowcat wrote: »

amcalester wrote: »

Why? You’re the one claiming to have detected a heartbeat at 4 weeks which isn’t possible.

So it appears you’ve fabricated all or part of your miscarriage story, and I’m the sicko?

FWIW My partner lost a pregnancy when an 8 week scan revealed that the fetus had stopped developing at 5 weeks. I know how traumatic it is.

My wife had 2 pregnancies. One perfectly beautiful child where we saw the heartbeat at about 8 weeks from conception. One miscarriage about a year and a half ago where we aborted the baby about 8 weeks from conception due to no heartbeat.

You aborted a miscarriage?

eviltwin

snowcat wrote: »

My wife had 2 pregnancies. One perfectly beautiful child where we saw the heartbeat at about 8 weeks from conception. One miscarriage about a year and a half ago where we aborted the baby about 8 weeks from conception due to no heartbeat.

You're full of sh1t

volchitsa

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So you changed to pro life after seeing your 1st childs heart beat then your wife had an abortion?

Maybe this was another pregnancy again, because he definitely said the miscarriage was at one month.

Ah what a tangled web etc etc.

snowcat

snowcat wrote: »

You can babysit her if you want. My amazing first child.

You would allow a perfect stranger to babysit your kid,. Parent of the year award is in the post.

snowcat

:rolleyes:

pinkyeye wrote: »

As well as the one where you heard the heartbeat at 4 weeks??

That's a lot of pregnancies. :rolleyes:

amcalester

snowcat wrote: »

My wife had 2 pregnancies. One perfectly beautiful child where we saw the heartbeat at about 8 weeks from conception. One miscarriage about a year and a half ago where we aborted the baby about 8 weeks from conception due to no heartbeat.

snowcat wrote: »

Well i would not be in that category even though some of my good friends are. Been through the early miscarriage thing (1 month) and it is as traumatic as losing a child i guess.

What about the miscarriage thing at 1 month? Was that pregnancy number 3?

Have to say that referring to it as a miscarriage thing while also saying it was as traumatic as losing a child is hard to comprehend.

Sardonicat

volchitsa wrote: »

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So you changed to pro life after seeing your 1st childs heart beat then your wife had an abortion?

Maybe this was another pregnancy again, because he definitely said the miscarriage was at one month.

Ah what a tangled web etc etc.

No, I think the miscarriage had an abortion.

snowcat

DubInMeath wrote: »

You would allow a perfect stranger to babysit your kid,. Parent of the year award is in the post.

Sarcasm is feckin wasted. Im not sure which is impacted most Dublin or Meath

snowcat

snowcat wrote: »

Sarcasm is feckin wasted. Im not sure which is impacted most Dublin or Meath

And te bulls1t your posting, is still just bullsh1t.

snowcat

Sardonicat wrote: »

No, I think the miscarriage had an abortion.

Oh Lord. Have we all teenagers on line

Timberrrrrrrr

DubInMeath wrote: »

And te bulls1t your posting, is still just bullsh1t.

Im the immortal words of Homer Simpsom

"Dig up you fool"

pinkyeye

snowcat wrote: »

:rolleyes:

That's it? That's your answer. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Says it all really.

snowcat

DubInMeath wrote: »

And te bulls1t your posting, is still just bullsh1t.

Ah go on. Give us your enlightened murmurings?

Sardonicat

snowcat wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

No, I think the miscarriage had an abortion.

Oh Lord. Have we all teenagers on line

No, you're the only one, I believe. Truly hope you're not doing Biology for the Leaving.

snowcat

Sardonicat wrote: »

No, you're the only one, I believe. Truly hope you're not doing Biology for the Leaving.

I did..honours A1

Actually B1. Im an Engineer. Biology was only an extra subject

snowcat

snowcat wrote: »

Ah go on. Give us your enlightened murmurings?

Really given the pearls of wisdom and medical knowledge you've shown here, I think they would go over your head.

Plumbthedepths

pinkyeye wrote:

Which first child is this? The one whose heartbeat you heard at 4 weeks or the one whose heartbeat was undetectable?

Keep this up and you'll appear in China with the hole you've dug. ;-)

volchitsa

snowcat wrote: »

I did..honours A1

The female reproductive system wasn't on the paper that year anyway, clearly.

Sardonicat

snowcat wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

No, you're the only one, I believe. Truly hope you're not doing Biology for the Leaving.

I did..honours A1

Actually B1. Im an Engineer. Biology was only an extra subject

Are you sure now? You are developing a bit of a track record for changing your story as you go, this time within the same post.

snowcat

DubInMeath wrote: »

Really given the pearls of wisdom and medical knowledge you've shown here, I think they would go over your head.

I believe a retort like that should go down in the annals of history as a monumental fail.

Plumbthedepths

snowcat wrote:

I did..honours A1

Okay...

snowcat wrote:

Actually B1.

Huh?

Sardonicat

snowcat wrote: »

DubInMeath wrote: »

Really given the pearls of wisdom and medical knowledge you've shown here, I think they would go over your head.

I believe a retort like that should go down in the annals of history as a monumental fail.

You believe a lot of stuff that isn't true.

snowcat

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Okay...



Huh?

I lied. Get over it

snowcat

snowcat

snowcat wrote: »

I believe a retort like that should go down in the annals of history as a monumental fail.

I would say it was a pretty accurate description of the situation, and that's putting it politely.

amcalester

snowcat wrote: »

I lied. Get over it

We know.

Sardonicat

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

snowcat wrote:

I did..honours A1

Okay...

snowcat wrote:

Actually B1.

Huh?

He hasn't got the results of the mocks yet...

snowcat

DubInMeath wrote: »

I would say it was a pretty accurate description of the situation, and that's putting it politely.

I believe that politeness should be placed in the gutter of society to advance the truth in piety.

snowcat

snowcat wrote: »

I lied. Get over it

Yep pretty much since you started posting.

Junkyard Tom

If tomorrow, by some strange cosmic event, men were suddenly able to get pregnant -- abortion on demand would be available everywhere on Earth within a couple of months.

snowcat

DubInMeath wrote: »

Yep pretty much since you started posting.

Nope. It was all true. But im not going to argue with more learned people

Sardonicat

snowcat wrote: »

DubInMeath wrote: »

I would say it was a pretty accurate description of the situation, and that's putting it politely.

I believe that politeness should be placed in the gutter of society to advance the truth in society.

Except for that to work you'd need to tell the truth.

It's way passed your bedtime and I've got better things to do. Good luck in the LC.

B0jangles

snowcat wrote: »

I believe that politeness should be placed in the gutter of society to advance the truth in society.

You've already been revealed as an exceptionally bad liar, really just incredibly, embarassingly bad at it and also as having only the most garbled understanding of how human reproduction works. It's a bit late to be wheeling out the meaningless platitudes.

SusieBlue

snowcat wrote: »

Nope. It was all true. But im not going to argue with more learned people

Just because someone holds an opposing view, it doesn’t make them less intelligent than yourself. It also doesn’t make them sex mad teenagers, which was another presumption of yours.

Billy86

It should come as no surprise that Alabama is in the top 5 states for infant mortality rates (not in the good way).

Because the truth of this is the same as it always seems to be - "pro lifers" tend to stop giving a sh*t once the baby has been squoze out, whether it has a good life or even lives or dies or not.

Probably a good time to remind people that Alabama is the state that came within ONE percent of voting in an actual, unashamed and self admitted pedophile to be one of their two representatives in the US senate just two years back. But it's the kids that matter, of course of course.

snowcat

Sardonicat wrote: »

Except for that to work you'd need to tell the truth.

It's way passed your bedtime and I've got better things to do. Good luck in the LC.

Thanks. I dont think i can do much better though

Plumbthedepths

snowcat wrote:

I lied several times. Get over it

FYP. ;-)

Silentcorner

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

If tomorrow, by some strange cosmic event, men were suddenly able to get pregnant -- abortion on demand would be available everywhere on Earth within a couple of months.

Have you any idea how many women are pro life...and despite what feminists would have you believe, women are well capable of handling the abortion issue individually...

I think the abortion debate, which is highly nuanced, is not for kids...a bit like the Isreal/Palastine debate...some people are just in way above their heads.

I'm pro choice for what it is worth, and a male...I found this issue a really hard one to settle on what way to vote...the hardest vote I have ever had to make.

There is no right or wrong side on abortion...there is just a majority!

snowcat

Billy86 wrote: »

It should come as no surprise that Alabama is 8n the top 5 states for infant mortality rates (not in the good way).

Because the truth of this is the same as it always seems to be - "pro lifers" tend to stop giving a sh*t once the baby has been squoze out, whether it has a good life or even lives or dies or not.

I agree completely. Also the pro NRA lobby in Alabama is disturbing, yes we are pro life but we will kill any adult with an automatic weapon and we love it.

snowcat

Silentcorner wrote: »

Have you any idea how many women are pro life...and despite what feminists would have you believe, women are well capable of handling the abortion issue individually...

I think the abortion debate, which is highly nuanced, is not for kids...a bit like the Isreal/Palastine debate...some people are just in way above their heads.

I'm pro choice for what it is worth, and a male...I found this issue a really hard one to settle on what way to vote...the hardest vote I have ever had to make.

There is no right or wrong side on abortion...there is just a majority!

I agree too. Im male. I was pro abortion. I am still pro abortion to a certain extent. It is a very difficult topic, similar to euthanasia. Im not sure if society has evolved enough to make a blanket decision on either.

Junkyard Tom

Silentcorner wrote: »

Have you any idea how many women are pro life...and despite what feminists would have you believe, women are well capable of handling the abortion issue individually...

I didn't comment on women -- I commented on men.

Silentcorner

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

I didn't comment on women -- I commented on men.

True, but you ignored the fact that women are participants in democracy too...

Junkyard Tom

Silentcorner wrote: »

True, but you ignored the fact that women are participants in democracy too...

Because I didn't need to qualify that -- it goes without saying.

Canis Lupus

Bit sad to hear the news but's one state in many in a country far far away. Don't really see why Irish pro lifers are sneering like it's a win for them or why pro choicers are equally outraged. There are plenty of other countries way more ****ed up.

Snotty

Silentcorner wrote: »

There is no right or wrong side on abortion...there is just a majority!

This. I think any sane logical person can see the validity of both arguments and can see that what ever their stance may be, the other side has nearly as compelling an argument.
Those who shout loudest from the sidelines are probably choosing the default side for their general mindset, without much though or effort.

mazwell

Crock Rock wrote: »

Bravo and well done. A step in the right direction and a step towards a more humane society. Six weeks is more than sifficient time to get an abortion if you want one.


Personally, I have been pro choice for any woman that wants one upto that time (although I still think it's a barbaric practice), but any later (ie, 12 weeks!) in Ireland is a disgrace. But recently I have grown more and more pro-life and against abortion. Certain jurisdictions even allow for a child in utero to be killed if he / she is disabled up ot an including viable stages of pregnancy.



It is a step in the right direction towards a more civilised society. Some people seem to think of an unborn life as something that can be thrown away.

https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2019/0516/1049771-alabama-abortion-law/

I've only started reading this thread and I'm sure this has been addressed but I'm sure because you're clearly an intelligent person that you are aware that six weeks of pregnancy is dated from your last period??? And that not every woman has 4 week cycles???
But obviously six weeks pregnant is more than sufficient time to find out you're pregnant, come to terms with it, think through your choices, arrange an abortion and have an abortion.
Loads of time.
Glad we have great thinkers like you in this world.