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King Mob

Blueshoe wrote: »

Why would you call someone a racist for not buying bread?

But that's not my position. That's a very childish misrepresentation you've slapped together in place of any actual arguments.

You've already agreed that racism is a reason for why at least some people would avoid halal certified bread.
Not sure why you're asking me this question when you know and agree with the answer.

Blueshoe

King Mob wrote: »

But that's not my position. That's a very childish misrepresentation you've slapped together in place of any actual arguments.

You've already agreed that racism is a reason for why at least some people would avoid halal certified bread.
Not sure why you're asking me this question when you know and agree with the answer.

One of many possible reasons.
Would you like to see halal certification symbols on food products?

King Mob

Blueshoe wrote: »

One of many possible reasons.

You've given 3. One of which was "randomly decides to do it out of the blue".
The other of which was not a valid reason as neither Judism or Catholism have any rules against halal certified bread. It was also not relevant as none of the moany types here who said they were going to avoid Brennans subscribe to either Judism or Catholism.
You had ignored these points previous. However, this has not made them go away.

The 3rd option was that it was due to racism. You are now whinging at me for making that same suggestion for some reason.

You have not presented any other of these "many possible reasons".
I think this is because they don't exist.

Blueshoe wrote: »

Would you like to see halal certification symbols on food products?

But I've already answer this question directly and clearly several posts ago: "I don't care."
Why are you asking it again?

You seem to be going around in circles a bit hoping to stumble onto a graceful exit where you can stomp out of the thread in a huff.
Might be best to just do that now and save the effort.

Infernal Racket

Jesus, these lads are still going at it

Seanachai

The Nal wrote: »

Gemma implies to her ignorant racist lot that there are hoards of fresh off the boat evil immigrants shouting "death to the infidel" over our good ol' Irish bread.

The reality is that halal bread isn't "blessed" like holy bread or wine. All it means is that the bread doesn't have animal fat in the shortening for example. Other things like lard, alcohol etc aren't allowed either. ie the ingredients adhere to whats allowed in a Muslim (and in a lot of cases Irish vegetarian) diet.

A whole load of nothing basically but Brennans is such an Irish thing that its easy for her to appeal to her pathetic thicko followers using Brennans as the whip.

Easy pickings for her when you're dealing with people who are so stupid and easily manipulated.

That's fair enough, I don't like the thought of any prayers from any faith being said over my food.

super_furry

Seanachai wrote: »

That's fair enough, I don't like the thought of any prayers from any faith being said over my food.

Nothing worse than a haunted toastie.

Timberrrrrrrr

Seanachai wrote: »

That's fair enough, I don't like the thought of any prayers from any faith being said over my food.

One wonders how many have this attitude yet take communion in church?

recedite

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

One wonders how many have this attitude yet take communion in church?

Why would you wonder?
It seems obvious they would be unlikely to attend either a church or a mosque.

Timberrrrrrrr

recedite wrote: »

Why would you wonder?
It seems obvious they would be unlikely to attend either a church or a mosque.

Not really, plenty of fairweather "Catholics" in Ireland only too happy to nod at the alter and take communion so as not to offend the mammy or the granny.

Also blueshoe stated

Blueshoe wrote: »

Catholic people might avoid it because they are a different religion

Ha Long Bay

I hope everyone in South Dublin are still safe.

https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1147900262432083968

Seanachai

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

One wonders how many have this attitude yet take communion in church?

I haven't set foot inside a church in years, I can understand somebody with Christian, Hindu or another faith not wanting Muslim prayers said over their food though.

Timberrrrrrrr

Seanachai wrote: »

I haven't set foot inside a church in years, I can understand somebody with Christian, Hindu or another faith not wanting Muslim prayers said over their food.

Why though? They are just words, they are not magical, they don't make anything taste different. I honestly think it's a very childish reason to use.

circadian

Seanachai wrote: »

That's fair enough, I don't like the thought of any prayers from any faith being said over my food.

Maybe I picked this up wrong, but are you suggesting there's an Imam at the exit to the factory blessing all the bread?!?

The Nal

circadian wrote: »

Maybe I picked this up wrong, but are you suggesting there's an Imam at the exit to the factory blessing all the bread?!?

Yes a lot of people believe that.

She and her ilk have purposely targeted thick people - people who believe in chemtrails and nonsense conspiracy theories, who spend too much time on social media - to further their own career in politics, in the media and most importantly to make money.

It works in fairness. Shes more famous and richer now since shes monetised a few thousand stupid people. Easy targets. Its shameless stuff, taking advantage of the bewildered, but some people are shameless.

Seanachai

circadian wrote: »

Maybe I picked this up wrong, but are you suggesting there's an Imam at the exit to the factory blessing all the bread?!?

I honestly don't know enough about it, I'd like to though, I think I'll email the Irish Islamic council. I know that there were Rabbis working in the meat factory near where I grew up. It's not inconceivable that they would be saying prayers over the bread mix at least.

Seanachai

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Why though? They are just words, they are not magical, they don't make anything taste different. I honestly think it's a very childish reason to use.

That's your opinion, neither of us can prove it either way. My position and experience is that prayer and ritual do have metaphysical power, I can't prove this to you. If there was a mage doing Solomonic rites over food, even people with no spiritual beliefs would probably be a bit uncomfortable.

King Mob

Seanachai wrote: »

That's your opinion, neither of us can prove it either way. My position and experience is that prayer and ritual do have metaphysical power, I can't prove this to you. If there was a mage doing Solomonic rites over food, even people with no spiritual beliefs would probably be a bit uncomfortable.

But magic isn't real though...

Either way, no prayer is being used on halal certified bread, so you are safe from the evil magic.

This has gotten very silly indeed.

recedite

Seanachai wrote: »

I haven't set foot inside a church in years, I can understand somebody with Christian, Hindu or another faith not wanting Muslim prayers said over their food though.

Islamic prayers are in integral part of the Halal slaughtering process.
Paying money over to the Islamic Foundation of Ireland is an integral part of marketing Halal certified bread.

ohnonotgmail

recedite wrote: »

Islamic prayers are in integral part of Halal slaughtering.
Paying money over to the Islamic Foundation of Ireland is an integral part of marketing Halal certified bread.

are they an integral part of the making of halal bread? at what point in the bread making process are the prayers said?

Ha Long Bay

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

are they an integral part of the making of halal bread? at what point in the bread making process are the prayers said?

They get Aul Mr Brennan to say the prayers.

Seanachai

King Mob wrote: »

But magic isn't real though...

Either way, no prayer is being used on halal certified bread, so you are safe from the evil magic.

This has gotten very silly indeed.

I'm not going to try and convince you of something you have no experience of, except to say that anybody that truly adheres to the scientific method would have an agnostic position on the subject. It isn't 'settled-science' as they say.

ohnonotgmail

Seanachai wrote: »

I'm not going to try and convince you of something you have no experience of, except to say that anybody that truly adheres to the scientific method would have an agnostic position on the subject. It isn't 'settled-science' as they say.

anybody that adhered to the scientific method would ask for evidence of your claims and dismiss them when you cant provide it.

Blueshoe

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Why though? They are just words, they are not magical, they don't make anything taste different. I honestly think it's a very childish reason to use.

Why are we entertaining them doing it then? Why not tell them to take their fairy tales elsewhere.

Because some people want to bend over backwards to accommodate them. Sad

Sonic_exyouth

Blueshoe wrote: »

Why are we entertaining them doing it then? Why not tell them to take their fairy tales elsewhere.

Because some people want to bend over backwards to accommodate them. Sad

"bend over backwards" = Putting a small little symbol on a piece of food packaging to try increase sales.

Overheal

circadian wrote: »

Maybe I picked this up wrong, but are you suggesting there's an Imam at the exit to the factory blessing all the bread?!?

What a fantastic form of protest if someone goes ahead with that.

recedite

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

are they an integral part of the making of halal bread? at what point in the bread making process are the prayers said?

Obviously not, but you go ahead and create the strawman anyway. Then you can have some fun over the next few pages laughing at all the non-existent "stupid" people your strawman represents. Its what you have been doing throughout this thread. A blatantly dishonest form of debate.

King Mob

recedite wrote: »

Obviously not,

Why bring up halal slaughter then?
The topic is and has been halal certified bread which does not have prayers said over it.
So that isn't a concern.

recedite wrote: »

A blatantly dishonest form of debate.

Speaking of...
Going to go back and address that bit where you claimed articles and people said stuff they didn't?
Bit dishonest to do that, then promptly ignore when people point out that you did that.

King Mob

Seanachai wrote: »

I'm not going to try and convince you of something you have no experience of, except to say that anybody that truly adheres to the scientific method would have an agnostic position on the subject. It isn't 'settled-science' as they say.

Ok, but magic doesn't exist. It's fictional.

Halal bread is not cursed by Islamic magic.

ohnonotgmail

recedite wrote: »

Obviously not, but you go ahead and create the strawman anyway. Then you can have some fun over the next few pages laughing at all the non-existent "stupid" people your strawman represents. Its what you have been doing throughout this thread. A blatantly dishonest form of debate.

Pot meet kettle.

King Mob

Sonic_exyouth wrote: »

"bend over backwards" = Putting a small little symbol on a piece of food packaging to try increase sales.

Some people get triggered by the smallest things...