Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

Atlantic Dawn

I love this hole story, she has been basically destroyed as utter high class trailer thrash and the Dean Hotel has been given media attention worth hundreds of thousands as a result, love it.

Atlantic Dawn

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I love this hole story, she has been basically destroyed as utter high class trailer thrash and the Dean Hotel has been given media attention worth hundreds of thousands as a result, love it.

'High class' is being rather generous.

Yurt2

Peatys wrote: »

She's an avid runner. She ran a time within 8 secs of her previous year. She would of had to have been training for that time well in advance of the race.

Takes weeks to train for that time as per her previous years time.

I love the way she described herself as an 'athlete' on the SOR show. Running hobbyists take themselves awfully seriously - a marker of one who is painfully middle class.

OldMrBrennan83

I lost touch with this thread because of the Bank Holiday but when I haven't seen a mention in the news I'm assuming she got away with it?

Kivaro

And in the irony of most ironies stories today, we have this in the Independent:
An Arts organisation called on Culture Minister Josepha Madigan to "spearhead" a campaign on insurance reform amid fears that spiralling premiums had led to a "crisis" for street performers and other artists.

The correspondence shows how concern over rising insurance is affecting organisations that fall into Ms Madigan's area of responsibility.
And just in case anybody just popping into this thread after a month's holidays in Mars:
Madigans Solicitors, which is owned by her brother and which Ms Madigan left in June 2017, represented Ms Bailey in the case she took against the Dean hotel after she fell off a swing in 2015.

blinding

Deleted User wrote: »

'High class' is being rather generous.

High up the League of Trailer Thrash ....don’t Ya Know !;)

blinding

Kivaro wrote: »

And in the irony of most ironies stories today, we have this in the Independent:
An Arts organisation called on Culture Minister Josepha Madigan to "spearhead" a campaign on insurance reform amid fears that spiralling premiums had led to a "crisis" for street performers and other artists.

The correspondence shows how concern over rising insurance is affecting organisations that fall into Ms Madigan's area of responsibility.
And just in case anybody just popping into this thread after a month's holidays in Mars:
Madigans Solicitors, which is owned by her brother and which Ms Madigan left in June 2017, represented Ms Bailey in the case she took against the Dean hotel after she fell off a swing in 2015.

Bump ! Don’t Sue !

whisky_galore

Yurt! wrote: »

I love the way she described herself as an 'athlete' on the SOR show. Running hobbyists take themselves awfully seriously - a marker of one who is painfully middle class.

LoL, a mammy who runs a bit thinks she's Olympics material!

AngryHippie

Nobody needs to be a world class athlete to be an athlete.

Anybody who trains regularly and participates in competition is worthy of calling themselves an athlete.

Its not that that makes her a knob. It's her victim attitude, sense of entitlement and refusal to accept she did a stupid thing and made it worse by doing another whole series of stupid things and got caught out.

blinding

AngryHippie wrote: »

Nobody needs to be a world class athlete to be an athlete.

Anybody who trains regularly and participates in competition is worthy of calling themselves an athlete.

Its not that that makes her a knob. It's her victim attitude, sense of entitlement and refusal to accept she did a stupid thing and made it worse by doing another whole series of stupid things and got caught out.

Knob on Swing...Comes a cropper !

Yurt2

AngryHippie wrote: »

Nobody needs to be a world class athlete to be an athlete.

Anybody who trains regularly and participates in competition is worthy of calling themselves an athlete.

Its not that that makes her a knob. It's her victim attitude, sense of entitlement and refusal to accept she did a stupid thing and made it worse by doing another whole series of stupid things and got caught out.

I train and compete in a sport (as a hobbyist) to keep my weight down - if I attempted to declare myself as an athlete, my mates would give me an unmerciful ribbing.

Yummy-mummies from South Dublin doing the Samsung Night Run because Sorcha from HR is doing it too can call themselves athletes, but I'm free to call 'notions' on them. Lulu Lemon do well out of such notions mind you, so I guess it keeps the economy ticking over.

Oafley Jones

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

This would be the same FF whose leader is ...... you've guessed it ...... a teacher! Vive la change!

For one whole year. He’s no more a teacher than Cowen was a solicitor. These people are politicians.

ChikiChiki

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

I lost touch with this thread because of the Bank Holiday but when I haven't seen a mention in the news I'm assuming she got away with it?

I've just glanced the Indo and seen two articles. One from Pat McDonagh slamming the claims culture and another from Art gallery groups lobbying culture Minister Josepha Madigan to tackle insurance on their behalf.

It's not going away.

everlast75

mickdw wrote: »

If that is the standard of claim that is now seen as reasonable within the courts, well the country is fecked. Nobody will be able to insure any premises soon.
Something needs to change to force judges to use the traditional idea of the business being negligent before making a judgement against them.
People are falling in shops by tripping on their own laces and getting pay outs.
It's nuts.

Courts DO have to make a finding of negligence against a business. The "traditional idea" as you say, IS what is used. What makes you think it isn't?

Can you give me one example of where someone trips on their own laces and successfully sues?

OldMrBrennan83

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I've just glanced the Indo and seen two articles. One from Pat McDonagh slamming the claims culture and another from Art gallery groups lobbying culture Minister Josepha Madigan to tackle insurance on their behalf.

It's not going away.

But she still has a job, so she's snaked her way out of it (I'm assuming her meeting with the brass happened midweek).

Ash.J.Williams

everlast75 wrote: »

Courts DO have to make a finding of negligence against a business. The "traditional idea" as you say, IS what is used. What makes you think it isn't?

Can you give me one example of where someone trips on their own laces and successfully sues?

I'm sure if you tripped on your shoelace near a pothole you're good for 20k

ChikiChiki

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I've just glanced the Indo and seen two articles. One from Pat McDonagh slamming the claims culture and another from Art gallery groups lobbying culture Minister Josepha Madigan to tackle insurance on their behalf.

It's not going away.

But she still has a job, so she's snaked her way out of it (I'm assuming her meeting with the brass happened midweek).

Maybe so but can see this doing crippling damage to Fine Gael. The business community and public are livid. Leos inaction speaks volumes about him as a leader.

She should be up on charges for Insurance Fraud.

mikemac2

The Independent working non stop on this story

I can’t remember the last time a paper was this determined

I suppose you could say John Delaney but even that wasn’t getting so much archive digging

blinding

mikemac2 wrote: »

The Independent working non stop on this story

I can’t remember the last time a paper was this determined

I suppose you could say John Delaney but even that wasn’t getting so much archive digging

Leo must not have prostrated himself enough for someone !

everlast75

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I'm sure if you tripped on your shoelace near a pothole you're good for 20k

Are we at the stage now that we have to invent cases to argue that Bailey was bang out of order, or that the Courts are too pro-Plaintiff?

Mrsmum

Side tangent here but someone was telling me that school insurance covers children's accidents anywhere so if a child fell off his bike on a Saturday and because of his own messing broke a tooth, the school insurance would pay for that. Is that right and if so why ?

Yurt2

mikemac2 wrote: »

The Independent working non stop on this story

I can’t remember the last time a paper was this determined

I'd say they have their mitts on the video of her taking the hopper when she was after having a skinful of prosecco (with Josepha in-shot also liquored to the gills), they'll wait until the Senior Counsel 'review' clears her, then drop it on them Enola Gay style.

judeboy101

mikemac2 wrote: »

The Independent working non stop on this story

I can’t remember the last time a paper was this determined

I suppose you could say John Delaney but even that wasn’t getting so much archive digging

DOB lost a case so he is out for revenge against anyone.

F34

I know of a case where a persons own child dropped a bowling ball on their foot a payout was made to them noting the place could do to prevent that.

Kid falls over himself in a soft play area breaks an arm again nothing the centre and kids parents despite not being there come up with a completely different set of events insurance company puts a reserve of nearly 50k on said claim.

This is the reality of the situation people are lashing in claims where the business isn’t even at fault and they are being paid off. Bailey’s claim follows the same line.

eagle eye

ChikiChiki wrote:

She should be up on charges for Insurance Fraud.

The cas has been dropped, there is no insurance fraud.

ChikiChiki wrote:

Maybe so but can see this doing crippling damage to Fine Gael. The business community and public are livid. Leos inaction speaks volumes about him as a leader.

The public are not up in arms. The media are pushing it because the stupid on social media have bitten on this.
Normal people on the street who don't spend their whole day with their heads stuck in a phone have moved on from this long ago.

blinding

eagle eye wrote: »

The cas has been dropped, there is no insurance fraud.


The public are not up in arms. The media are pushing it because the stupid on social media have bitten on this.
Normal people on the street who don't spend their whole day with their heads stuck in a phone have moved on from this long ago.

Has this case been investigated for Insurance Fraud ? Or attempted Insurance Fraud ?

It certainly seems like a case that the Gardai / Insurance Fraud Investigators should be inquiring into .

There has been very questionable behaviour by the “ Claimant “


The Public need to know that a case like this is being investigated .

“ Standards and all That ! "

eagle eye

blinding wrote:

The Public need to know that a case like this is being investigated .

There is no case, it's been dropped. Is that plain enough English for you?

blinding

eagle eye wrote: »

There is no case, it's been dropped. Is that plain enough English for you?

Was Fraud Attempted ? Was the Case withdrawn because it was clear that Fraud was Attempted ?

Is the Government serious about Insurance Fraud or is Show Pony Leo just producing more Rocking Horse Sh!t;)

eagle eye

blinding wrote:

Was Fraud Attempted ? Was the Case withdrawn because it was clear that Fraud was Attempted ?

Under what act do you charge someone for not pursuing a claim?

blinding

eagle eye wrote: »

Under what act do you charge someone for not pursuing a claim?

Just because a case was dropped does not mean Insurance Fraud was not attempted ?