Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

smurgen

eagle eye wrote: »

She might have a case now. I'm sure the hotel sought legal advice about handing over data to a third party before doing it but if they didn't.....

I think the hotel and management would have a stronger case for defamation against maria bailey

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote:

I said I'm sure they did take legal advice but if they didn't she might have a case. How do you s that deluded? Or is this just a general statement because I'm not rowing in with the rest? I've been accused of being Maria Bailey, of being a Fine Gael supporter and of defending Maria Bailey in this thread. All I've said is this is very minor in comparison to other things like the billions wasted on the children's hospital. I've talked about Maria Walsh telling lies and nobody caring about it. The hypocrisy is amazing.

You really think that the hotel owners would not have taken legal advice about handing over data that maybe covered by GDPR? I don't give a toss about M Walsh this thread is not about her or the children's hospital or any other whataboutery you wish to try to introduce.

eagle eye

tigger123 wrote:

It's a Senior Counsel conducting the 'review'. I'm sure he wouldn't be asking for a copy of the CCTV footage if he thought it would have consequences down the line.
People seem to think that because of GDPR no cant do anything anymore. It's the new Health and Safety.

It's ok to ask for it, the responsibility is all on the holder of the data. Senior counsel obviously knows this.

Ash.J.Williams

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm enjoying the stupidity and hypocrisy of it all. It's just funny.

What about 911

tigger123

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm enjoying the stupidity and hypocrisy of it all. It's just funny.

Where's the hypocrisy?

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

You really think that the hotel owners would not have taken legal advice about handing over data that maybe covered by GDPR? I don't give a toss about M Walsh this thread is not about her or the children's hospital or any other whataboutery you wish to try to introduce.

1. Read the first line of what you quoted and it answers the question you asked.
2. I'm entitled to compare lies.
3. If you don't know what a word means(whataboutery) then don't use it.

Auguste Comte

Not actually having a case didn't seem to prevent her putting in a claim in the first place.

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote:

1. Read the first line of what you quoted and it answers the question you asked. 2. I'm entitled to compare lies. 3. If you don't know what a word means(whataboutery) then don't use it.

I have read it and it seems bizarre that you would think the hotel would not seek advice and act under it considering how willing to sue Bailey is.
No I read some of your posts nothing but whataboutery and deflection. If you feel so strong about Walsh why not start your own thread.
Also for a lad saying he was out , you're still here. ;-)

eagle eye

tigger123 wrote:

Where's the hypocrisy?

There is no uproar over Maria Walsh, another Fine Gael member, telling bare-faced lies but there is about Maria Bailey.
If you care about money and spiralling costs then why aren't people looking for the removal of the minister for health after the children's hospital fiasco. That's going to cost everybody money. So people giving out about the claims culture in this country and rising insurance costs are not complaining about rising costs over mis-spent billions by the government. Sound hypocritical to me.

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

I have read it and it seems bizarre that you would think the hotel would not seek advice and act under it considering how willing to sue Bailey is. No I read some of your posts nothing but whataboutery and deflection. If you feel so strong about Walsh why not start your own thread. Also for a lad saying he was out , you're still here. ;-)

The start of the post you quoted is 'I said I'm sure they did take legal advice'.

the beer revolu

But what about the whataboutery?

AbdulAbhaile

eagle eye wrote: »

tigger123 wrote:

Where's the hypocrisy?

There is no uproar over Maria Walsh, another Fine Gael member, telling bare-faced lies but there is about Maria Bailey.
If you care about money and spiralling costs then why aren't people looking for the removal of the minister for health after the children's hospital fiasco. That's going to cost everybody money. So people giving out about the claims culture in this country and rising insurance costs are not complaining about rising costs over mis-spent billions by the government. Sound hypocritical to me.

https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057939296

Plumbthedepths

You also said if they didn't take advice, as I said I'm surprised you would even think they would act without advice considering Bailey's pervious willingness to go legal for a spurious matter.

pablo128

eagle eye wrote: »

There is no uproar over Maria Walsh, another Fine Gael member, telling bare-faced lies but there is about Maria Bailey.
If you care about money and spiralling costs then why aren't people looking for the removal of the minister for health after the children's hospital fiasco. That's going to cost everybody money. So people giving out about the claims culture in this country and rising insurance costs are not complaining about rising costs over mis-spent billions by the government. Sound hypocritical to me.

You have been encouraged to start another thread about Maria Walsh and the children's hospital, but yet you are still here banging that drum.

You know you can be critical of one while being critical of the others too? Do you see anyone on this thread defending Maria Walsh or the children's hospital or any other smokescreens you wish to introduce?

givyjoe

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm enjoying the stupidity and hypocrisy of it all. It's just funny.

I seriously doubt you're enjoying any of this to be honest. Your incessant whinging about the continuance of the thread makes it fairly obvious you're not enjoying any of it. You said you were 'out' how many pages back?

mikemac2

Did the Irish Times go out of their way to pick that photo

It’s not a bad photo, it’s perfectly fine but there are any number of professional looking photos out there of Maria Bailey smiling and looking smart

Seems a little unusual is all,

Snow Garden

eagle eye wrote: »

Anyways I'm done with this nonsense. Imo she should not face any further consequences over this.

I think you should all find something important to whinge and moan about like the billions wasted on the children's hospital or the fact that a soccer world cup is going to be held in Qatar despite outrageous human rights abuse.

Or that a man who planned, calculated and calmly murdered his wife and tried to make it look like a suicide is being given temporary release for family visits despite his dead wife's family being deeply upset by it.

The world cup in Qatar was another bit of whataboutery

Suckit

mikemac2 wrote: »

Did the Irish Times go out of their way to pick that photo
It’s not a bad photo, it’s perfectly fine but there are any number of professional looking photos out there of Maria Bailey smiling and looking smart
Seems a little unusual is all,

The media often use shifty looking photos of people that are being accused of being shifty. Definitely not the first time.

Auguste Comte

I wouldn't shift her with yours. :D

James Brown

Auguste Comte wrote: »

I wouldn't shift her with yours. :D

What are you doing with mine? I was sure it was there earlier.

James Brown

Bailey goes to show, what we all know, that there's chancers everywhere. What upsets the Fine Gael brethren is they like to look down on everyone else and don't like the fact getting publicity that they've chancers and fraudsters in their mix. I suppose they can always stand by their record in office...oh, wait....

inforfun

More footage of that night


https://i.imgur.com/TohC1XC.mp4

Jupiter Mulligan

inforfun wrote: »

More footage of that night


https://i.imgur.com/TohC1XC.mp4

Fair dues to her for running a 10k race a couple of weeks after that horrific fall!

I've been misjudging poor Maria, she's a real hero.

Loafing Oaf

eagle eye wrote: »

I said I'm sure they did take legal advice but if they didn't she might have a case.
How do you s that deluded?
Or is this just a general statement because I'm not rowing in with the rest?
I've been accused of being Maria Bailey, of being a Fine Gael supporter and of defending Maria Bailey in this thread.
All I've said is this is very minor in comparison to other things like the billions wasted on the children's hospital.
I've talked about Maria Walsh telling lies and nobody caring about it. The hypocrisy is amazing.

Yeah Maria Walsh claiming to remember Mary Robinson's election is clearly one of the burning issues of today's world. Up there with possible war between America and Iran I reckon

tigger123

eagle eye wrote: »

There is no uproar over Maria Walsh, another Fine Gael member, telling bare-faced lies but there is about Maria Bailey.
If you care about money and spiralling costs then why aren't people looking for the removal of the minister for health after the children's hospital fiasco. That's going to cost everybody money. So people giving out about the claims culture in this country and rising insurance costs are not complaining about rising costs over mis-spent billions by the government. Sound hypocritical to me.

The Children's hospital was a massive story, and still is. People are extremely angry about it.

A sitting TD trying to shake down a business with a suspicious injury claim, then getting caught doing it, then making a public spectacle of themselves on the RTE 1 will always be newsworthy. Doesn't matter what party it is, or what the circumstances are.

Jupiter Mulligan

tigger123 wrote: »

The Children's hospital was a massive story, and still is. People are extremely angry about it.

Of course "people" are - and the "people" who are probably most annoyed about it are the FG TDs and Ministers who have to carry the political can for the insanely low cost estimates that they were given by the so-called 'experts' on the project team.

But it's just plain silly to think that the hospital would have cost less if another party had been in charge of the project. Even the opposition parties know that.

ChikiChiki

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

tigger123 wrote: »

The Children's hospital was a massive story, and still is. People are extremely angry about it.

Of course "people" are - and the "people" who are probably most annoyed about it are the FG TDs and Ministers who have to carry the political can for the insanely low cost estimates that they were given by the so-called 'experts' on the project team.

But it's just plain silly to think that the hospital would have cost less if another party had been in charge of the project. Even the opposition parties know that.

This is unbelievable. Defending the indefensible. ****ing clowns are running the asylum.

blinding

inforfun wrote: »

More footage of that night


https://i.imgur.com/TohC1XC.mp4

Thats why you need supervision for ...Children

Adults are supposed to supervise themselves . No longer sure if Fine Gael TDs are up to the job .

Why do the pick such Loo-Lahs for these outlier seats .

Do they need to keep up their quota of Loo-Lahs .

Jupiter Mulligan

ChikiChiki wrote: »

This is unbelievable. Defending the indefensible. ****ing clowns are running the asylum.

As I wrote above, anyone who thinks that another party in government would have been able to deliver the same hospital to the same spec in the same timeframe on the same site for a lower price is completely deluded.

Things cost what they cost. And no amount of spin, blather, finger pointing or miscellaneous white noise can change that.

(Unless Mick Wallace's company had built it without paying VAT, of course!)

Now - back to Maria Bailey .....................

Auguste Comte

Jupiter Mulligan wrote: »

ChikiChiki wrote: »

This is unbelievable. Defending the indefensible. ****ing clowns are running the asylum.

As I wrote above, anyone who thinks that another party in government would have been able to deliver the same hospital to the same spec in the same timeframe on the same site for a lower price is completely deluded.

Things cost what they cost. And no amount of spin, blather, finger pointing or miscellaneous white noise can change that.

(Unless Mick Wallace's company had built it without paying VAT, of course!)

Now - back to Maria Bailey .....................

That's what the FG spin machine want people to think anyway.