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Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    McCrack wrote: »
    I am not privy to whatever inspection may have been carried out on it

    On a general point a licenced premises are not a suitable place for swings for obvious reasons.. leave them where they belong

    So on the one hand you're saying there has to be a defect for liability and you're not aware of any with the swing.

    But on the other you're saying there doesn't have to be any defect for a swing on a licensed premises to give rise to liability.

    So what exactly are you saying? They're two contradictory statements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,998 ✭✭✭McCrack


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    So on the one hand you're saying there has to be a defect for liability and you're not aware of any with the swing.

    But on the other you're saying there doesn't have to be any defect for a swing on a licensed premises to give rise to liability.

    So what exactly are you saying? They're two contradictory statements.

    Risk v foreseeability

    I haven't seen any engineers report on the swing following inspection in the Dean but I understand they since put grips on its surface

    Go figure


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    I agree, but bringing up steps etc makes the whole possibility of a publican/hotel business fraught to incurring insurance claims by people like Baile6.

    Where is the line drawn?

    Heard from someone who works in insurance today that Brexit is the cause of high premiums as a lot are all working from Lloyd’s and a lot of British companies are afraid to come into the Irish market due to the uncertainty.

    Don’t know how true it is but shows us plebs are been screwed every way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,360 ✭✭✭stampydmonkey


    lola85 wrote: »
    Heard from someone who works in insurance today that Brexit is the cause of high premiums as a lot are all working from Lloyd’s and a lot of British companies are afraid to come into the Irish market due to the uncertainty.

    Don’t know how true it is but shows us plebs are been screwed every way.

    What's stopping European insurers coming in?

    Edit...or what has stopped European insurers coming in historically?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    What's stopping European insurers coming in?

    Edit...or what has stopped European insurers coming in historically?

    No idea.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    lola85 wrote: »
    No idea.

    The fact that the 'Irish' insurers made it very difficult for them to access the relevant databases.

    A cartel in layman's terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,532 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    McCrack wrote: »
    Risk v foreseeability

    I haven't seen any engineers report on the swing following inspection in the Dean but I understand they since put grips on its surface

    Go figure

    They put on grips because to their surprise one person was incapable of doing what a 2 year old does instinctively.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Too ah swingey.

    :D

    Gas thing is these swings are not very swingey at all, they are literally so close to the wall that they've been designed just to be sat on briefly to take a photo, as thousands of girlos have done for Instagram. It wasnt like the hotel put some circus trapeze swing hanging from the roof in the middle of the bar and invited people to release their inner gymnast; they are swings placed just a foot from the back wall and you couldn't possibly actually swing on them.

    Anyway Matt Ryan of the Press Up group said on Marian Finucane at the weekend that they have these swings in two of their other properties and that nobody had fallen off the swings before Bailey came along and nobody has fallen off them since either. Out of the thousands of people who have sat on those swings Bailey was the only one who wasnt able to figure it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    After listening to the interview that chap had a very interesting life story and you can see why he fought back against this kind of bull****.

    He's seen real trauma in his life so he's very reluctant to put up with privileged chancers.

    Fair play to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,876 ✭✭✭jmreire


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Perhaps one could question the long term sustainability of holding all premises liable for the actions of consenting adults instead of the adults themselves.

    I like to have the choice to play darts in a pub.
    I like to have the choice to play pool in a pub.
    I like to have the choice to walk up and down steps.
    I like to have the choice to drink from glass containers.

    All of these actions carry risks, that we as adults can control by acting reasonably.
    This nonsense of extending liability onto the premises for any and all acts of stupidity by adults just transfers money from the rest of society to the legal profession and insurance companies while making routine activities prohibitive and infantilising all of us.

    And that's it in a nutshell...I don't think that there is any Country outside of Ireland where these kind of claims would be entertained,because there they have very strong culture of persons having to look out for themselves in every circumstance...in other word's Personal Responsibility. Even the chipped glass or slippy / faulty step's argument would not work there...and you know, something, it work's.....people check the glass before they drink from it...they take extra care when climbing steps etc.... because, if they fall and hurt them self's...tough.And under no circumstances would any kind of claim be entertained where the person was under the influence of drink or drug's.
    The way to go in this Country is to make Law's which put much more emphasis on personal responsibility...but of course, that would reduce claims significantly, and therefore the income of all the claim's " Beneficiaries", and that's why it will not happen. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all claims are like this..obviously you will have car/ work/other accidents with serious injury's sustained, and that's what insurance is for..no problem there...but for the likes of swing gate, slips and falls etc. They need to be stopped.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭lola85


    jmreire wrote: »
    And that's it in a nutshell...I don't think that there is any Country outside of Ireland where these kind of claims would be entertained,because there they have very strong culture of persons having to look out for themselves in every circumstance...in other word's Personal Responsibility. Even the chipped glass or slippy / faulty step's argument would not work there...and you know, something, it work's.....people check the glass before they drink from it...they take extra care when climbing steps etc.... because, if they fall and hurt them self's...tough.And under no circumstances would any kind of claim be entertained where the person was under the influence of drink or drug's.
    The way to go in this Country is to make Law's which put much more emphasis on personal responsibility...but of course, that would reduce claims significantly, and therefore the income of all the claim's " Beneficiaries", and that's why it will not happen. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that all claims are like this..obviously you will have car/ work/other accidents with serious injury's sustained, and that's what insurance is for..no problem there...but for the likes of swing gate, slips and falls etc. They need to be stopped.

    Agree. Bailey is a cheat and has been caught out.

    But Ireland as a whole has a lot to answer for.

    Blaming one person is pushing the boat out.

    Can anyone explain why we are a nation of cheats?

    We have the highest disability payments in the EU.

    Someone somewhere is scamming us plebs.

    Why isn’t it been clamped out Leo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,876 ✭✭✭jmreire


    lola85 wrote: »
    Agree. Bailey is a cheat and has been caught out.

    But Ireland as a whole has a lot to answer for.

    Blaming one person is pushing the boat out.

    Can anyone explain why we are a nation of cheats?

    We have the highest disability payments in the EU.

    Someone somewhere is scamming us plebs.

    Why isn’t it been clamped out Leo?

    As far a claims go....it's a one way street. Nothing to lose if your claim fail's, and maybe even appeal? So effectively, another roll of the dice. But if there were a price to be paid, then you would see the number of claims dropping, solicitors would be much more selective in what cases they take on if payment was in doubt, and possibly the solicitor / barrister personally might even be charged with being party to a fraudulent case ? ( this last bit is in wish full thinking Bterritory) None the less, there was a case recently where the judge dismissed 2 claims....and heavily criticized both the Solicitor and the Barrister involved not only in these 2 cases, but in general regarding the type cases they were accepting, basically just on face value and without due diligence . The Insurance Reform group has forwarded the details of both cases to the Law Society and to the Guard's for further investigation. So maybe there is a glimmer of hope on the horizon. Right now ( thanks again M/S Bailey ) insurance fraud is a political hot potato...and with a GE in the offing, various parties are sniffing the wind, and the smell that is wafting down wind is not very pleasant, so action has not only be seen to be done, but to be actually done. Be interesting to see what will happen in the next 6 -9 mths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    McCrack wrote: »
    Indeed, and liability can attach depending on the condition of the steps, lighting etc

    all pubs shold fit ramps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    McCrack wrote: »
    I am not privy to whatever inspection may have been carried out on it

    On a general point a licenced premises are not a suitable place for swings for obvious reasons.. leave them where they belong

    Where children fall off them?
    do you think swings should be banned, people could fall off them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,290 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    So what's the defect with the swing?
    slippy seats which they tried to address with non-slip tape https://twitter.com/lostexpectation/status/1132949892446466048 [linking to tweet because it easier then copying and pasting links and pictures]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Why doesn't the lady above have 2 bottles of alcohol in her hands? She is doing it wrong...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    slippy seats which they tried to address with non-slip tape https://twitter.com/lostexpectation/status/1132949892446466048


    Moot point - no one fell off the swings (which are physically impossible to swing on) before or since.

    Shameless plug of presumably your own tweet, which has so far, since the 27th of May garnered one x retweet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭ArrBee


    lola85 wrote: »
    Heard from someone who works in insurance today that Brexit is the cause of high premiums as a lot are all working from Lloyd’s and a lot of British companies are afraid to come into the Irish market due to the uncertainty.

    Don’t know how true it is but shows us plebs are been screwed every way.


    huh?
    that doesn't make sense.

    Sure, competition can put prices in check, but I don't agree that lack of competition is the root cause of increases...
    That would come down to greedy cartels.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,430 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    lola85 wrote: »
    Heard from someone who works in insurance today that Brexit is the cause of high premiums as a lot are all working from Lloyd’s and a lot of British companies are afraid to come into the Irish market due to the uncertainty.

    Don’t know how true it is but shows us plebs are been screwed every way.

    brexit doesnt effect european insurance providers who are equally as reluctant to get involved in irish policies.

    its down to the ridiculously high in court pay outs;
    the ease of out of court payouts;
    the ridiculously high legal costs;
    the ridiculously biased decisions in favor of the appellant;
    and most of all the lack of any deterrent for exaggerated, spurious or fraudulent claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Moot point - no one fell off the swings (which are physically impossible to swing on) before or since.

    How do you know nobody fell off the swings before or since? On the balance of probabilities, I'd bet both my testicles that someone has fallen off them before (and probably since). Don't forget that this is an establishment that serves alcohol and people have been known to fall off stationary chairs due to the effects of the auld gargle.

    I'd say most people would be too embarrassed to claim that they fell off the swing. They would just get up and get on with things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    How do you know nobody fell off the swings before or since? On the balance of probabilities, I'd bet both my testicles that someone has fallen off them before (and probably since). Don't forget that this is an establishment that serves alcohol and people have been known to fall off stationary chairs due to the effects of the auld gargle.

    I'd say most people would be too embarrassed to claim that they fell off the swing. They would just get up and get on with things.

    Because the co-owner said they never caused a problem before or since.

    I would guess loosely translated that means no one has fallen off them before or since, obviously he also could have meant that no one tried to sue them before or since - but if that's what he meant, he only further highlights what an incredibly greedy, and stupid sleveen Bailey was, and also extend that to those that gave her the legal advice to peruse it.

    Also just to note, being willing to bet your nuts that people have fallen off the swing since the tape was added, doesn't that strengthen my claim that the post I quoted was a moot point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    How do you know nobody fell off the swings before or since? On the balance of probabilities, I'd bet both my testicles that someone has fallen off them before (and probably since). Don't forget that this is an establishment that serves alcohol and people have been known to fall off stationary chairs due to the effects of the auld gargle.

    I'd say most people would be too embarrassed to claim that they fell off the swing. They would just get up and get on with things.


    That's the far more likely scenario here. That she fell off because she was drunk, or she missed the seat.

    I genuinely believe it is harder to fall off those swings than it is to stay on.
    They don't go back far enough to really 'fall off', but like a bar stool, you can sit on the edge with your bum and it will move beneath you.
    Or sit too far back and you'll go over it.

    Ironically, she stood up so that her friend could photograph her ability to stay on the swing.
    I also believe the only reason she made a claim was because it was a swing. Not because she was hurt. She wouldn't have even attempted the claim had she 'fallen off' or more likely, missed a bar stool while in a bar holding two glasses of alcohol and reaching out to grab a bottle of wine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,876 ✭✭✭jmreire


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    brexit doesnt effect european insurance providers who are equally as reluctant to get involved in irish policies.

    its down to the ridiculously high in court pay outs;
    the ease of out of court payouts;
    the ridiculously high legal costs;
    the ridiculously biased decisions in favor of the appellant;
    and most of all the lack of any deterrent for exaggerated, spurious or fraudulent claims.

    with the rise in profits from €16 Million in 2016 to €225 Million in 2017, it beggars belief just why there is not more competition in the market...especially since year on year the total value of payouts has NOT increased,, yet the Insurance Company's use the " Rise in award's " to justify their savage increase's in premium's for their Customer's...:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Because the co-owner said they never caused a problem before or since.

    I would guess loosely translated that means no one has fallen off them before or since, obviously he also could have meant that no one tried to sue them before or since - but if that's what he meant, he only further highlights what an incredibly greedy, and stupid sleveen Bailey was, and also extend that to those that gave her the legal advice to peruse it.

    Also just to note, being willing to bet your nuts that people have fallen off the swing since the tape was added, doesn't that strengthen my claim that the post I quoted was a moot point?

    It's unlikely that nobody fell off the swings before, no matter what the co-owner says. Most people who fall off such swings would just get up and go on about their business and say nothing to anybody and that would be the end of the matter. I think your assessment that nobody sued before is why the owner said they never caused a problem before.

    Adding the tape does make a bit of difference though as it's an extra control measure that wasn't in place before the Bailey incident. Unfortunately the bar is set very high when it comes to incidents being reasonably foreseeable and employers/business owners must ensure that all reasonably practicable control measures are put in place. I think it is reasonably foreseeable that someone could fall off a swing, especially when alcohol is involved.

    Do I think she is scummy for claiming, of course I do, but I do also think it's foolish on the part of a hotel having swings in a place that sells alcohol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,756 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    It's unlikely that nobody fell off the swings before, no matter what the co-owner says. Most people who fall off such swings would just get up and go on about their business and say nothing to anybody and that would be the end of the matter. I think your assessment that nobody sued before is why the owner said they never caused a problem before.

    Adding the tape does make a bit of difference though as it's an extra control measure that wasn't in place before the Bailey incident. Unfortunately the bar is set very high when it comes to incidents being reasonably foreseeable and employers/business owners must ensure that all reasonably practicable control measures are put in place. I think it is reasonably foreseeable that someone could fall off a swing, especially when alcohol is involved.

    Do I think she is scummy for claiming, of course I do, but I do also think it's foolish on the part of a hotel having swings in a place that sells alcohol.

    and especially when both of your hands are busy holding alcohol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Developers and vulture funds depend on welfare for profits.

    So the poor people driving up house prices and rents need welfare for profit? That's a good argument not to do it. When rents go up the welfare contribution goes up which is an even bigger burden on taxpayers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭capefear


    https://twitter.com/paddymacc1/status/1177825046276038656?s=21

    She is going to try and brazen this out but surely she can’t get voted back in after what she tried to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    capefear wrote: »

    She is going to try and brazen this out but surely she can’t get voted back in after what she tried to do?


    Maybe the people of Dun Laoghaire will vote her back in, but FG will lose a lot of votes elsewhere as a result of her running. I don't think I am underestimating it at all. My work has me dealing directly with business owners every day, and the majority of them are still fuming with her but a lot of the anger is now also directed at the weak-kneed leader of the party.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,025 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'd say the party are hoping that by the time the next GE comes around, most people will have forgotten about the 'incident'.

    And you can be sure they will tell her to keep a low profile, and stay off the national media.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd say the party are hoping that by the time the next GE comes around, most people will have forgotten about the 'incident'.

    I'd say the exact opposite will happen.

    The CCTV footage will probably be strategically leaked in the election campaign, and I fully expect more information on Josepha Madigans role in the stroke being revealed, shining a light on the pair of them, and a castrated Leo, who tried to bury the report.

    The election campaign will be extremely interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,771 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd say the party are hoping that by the time the next GE comes around, most people will have forgotten about the 'incident'.

    And you can be sure they will tell her to keep a low profile, and stay off the national media.
    Will it work though ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    capefear wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/paddymacc1/status/1177825046276038656?s=21

    She is going to try and brazen this out but surely she can’t get voted back in after what she tried to do?
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    She is back tweeting the last couple of days. Interestingly it's coinciding with lower activity on this thread and a falling from the headlines. Also she has showed an astounding lack of self awareness with the tweet and left herself once again open to ridicule.



    Her activity on Twitter and reappearance at public meetings are leading me to believe she has received assurance she is on the ticket. It truly will prove to be a spectacular miscalculation from FG. They are orchestrating their own downfall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    capefear wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/paddymacc1/status/1177825046276038656?s=21

    She is going to try and brazen this out but surely she can’t get voted back in after what she tried to do?

    And I thought UK politics was a joke, especially after this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    She is back tweeting the last couple of days. Interestingly it's coinciding with lower activity on this thread and a falling from the headlines. Also she has showed an astounding lack of self awareness with the tweet and left herself once again open to ridicule.

    https://twitter.com/MariaBaileyFG/status/1177112169055473666?s=09

    Her activity on Twitter and reappearance at public meetings are leading me to believe she has received assurance she is on the ticket. It truly will prove to be a spectacular miscalculation from FG. They are orchestrating their own downfall.

    Maria appears to be holding all the cards, I've a feeling she knows she'll be on the ticket, because she's made it clear that if she's going down, there'll be more going down with her.

    Only logical explanation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    capefear wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/paddymacc1/status/1177825046276038656?s=21

    She is going to try and brazen this out but surely she can’t get voted back in after what she tried to do?

    Might go along and ask her about the offside rule in Gaelic, I need it explained to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Might go along and ask her about the offside rule in Gaelic, I need it explained to me

    I might pop along and ask her if she was holding a drink in each hand while trying to sit on a swing, or was she still of the opinion that only a judge could adjudicate on that question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,843 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I might pop along and ask her if she was holding a drink in each hand while trying to sit on a swing, or was she still of the opinion that only a judge could adjudicate on that question.

    Yeah, do that John.

    It'll do you good to get away from this thread for a couple of hours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,639 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Maria appears to be holding all the cards, I've a feeling she knows she'll be on the ticket, because she's made it clear that if she's going down, there'll be more going down with her.

    Only logical explanation.

    Big car crash approaching. FG are losing the run of themselves if she is allowed stand.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Oh I hope she does stand. It will be fascinating to watch!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,716 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Oh I hope she does stand. It will be fascinating to watch!

    Will she be able to keep her balance though? :-))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Oh I hope she does stand. It will be fascinating to watch!

    Same here because Maria running has serious potential to be a car crash of an election campaign by FG. The 2016 election was a disaster for FG when Enda Kennys face was hanging from every lampost telling people to 'Keep the Recovery Going' while the entire nation was like 'eh, what recovery?'. Maria running in this election should even out do that own goal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    "I'm the victim here Sean"

    Just to keep in context the mentality of the lady.

    Of course she is going to brazen it out.
    Of course she has got the keys to enough skeleton closets in the FG ranks to pressure someone as "squeaky clean" as Leo into inactivity.

    Leo has two options, keep schtumm in order to maintain and operate government (at a fairly crucial juncture with all the chaos across the waters) thus allowing Maria the opportunity she needs to face the judgement of her electorate.

    Or

    Pull the pin on an absolute hand-grenade and chuck it into the cabinet. We don't currently know (but strongly suspect) that there are at least one other sitting TD that would be brought down by the whole truth. If it comes to a cage fight, they have affirmed that they will fight dirty, thereby taking the dirty laundry of every FG TD and Council member and throwing it all over the front pages.

    This at a time when stability and credibility are the only things keeping our EU partners satisfied that the good ship Ireland is making headway.

    He has made the smart play for the nation in my opinion. The optics aren't great for him as a leader, nor for FG as a party, but once the current brexit crap has run its course and there is a direction out of that, he may have a better opportunity to get the dagging shears out and clean up his front yard without the neighbors using it against him and against us as a nation.

    I think he has been outflanked by cute-hoorism at its worst for now, but if he gets the nation through the brexit crisis intact and keeps our alignment and relationships with Brussels and Westminster in good stead, he will get the space he needs to fix the old guard when the time comes.

    Time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    "I'm the victim here Sean"




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty



    Go out and enjoy your Sunday and stop obsessing about Maria Bailey. Real Barry George vibe off your posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Go out and enjoy your Sunday and stop obsessing about Maria Bailey. Real Barry George vibe off your posts.


    I am enjoying my Sunday, I'm reading the Sunday papers, and enjoying what I'm reading immensely.


    Thousands desert Fine Gael, as nearly a decade in power takes its toll
    Hundreds of activists have been lost in its traditional heartlands in rural Ireland such as Galway, Meath, Mayo and Kerry. This stands in sharp contrast to Dublin where the party's support appears to have held relatively steady in recent years.

    How many of them are enjoying scat threads in Shanghai I wonder....

    You think I'm enjoying it now, wait until the proper tail spin begins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,406 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    shes hosting a morning coffee? I hope someone tells her to let it cool down a bit before starting to drink it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    Real Barry George vibe off your posts.

    I hope it's not this man you are referring to...He'll sue you quicker than Gemma O'D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    Go out and enjoy your Sunday and stop obsessing about Maria Bailey. Real Barry George vibe off your posts.


    Just remember Paddy, MB gave the interview. Johnny is only uploading what is out there.

    And now she’s hosting a coffee morning, you going? Good luck with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I hope it's not this man you are referring to...He'll sue you quicker than Gemma O'D.

    Have to admit, I had to Google the fella as i wasn't entirely familiar with the name initially, I see he's a bit of a Walter Mitty character, so I can see why losty was. :)


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