Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

PIORUN

Father Hernandez wrote: »

55 seconds slower than the previous year apparently

Delighted she has been caught out, she deserves absolutely everything thrown at her. She's the one in the wrong, she's the one who has tried to sue because of pure greed.

What a cúnt

haven't you been listening to her...the media are wrong for hounding and to hell with those bastard keyboard warriors those guys are also wrong and the real problem here ;-)

ToBeFrank123

The stress of this will send Leo's metabolic age shooting up again! Did they ever do the retest?

Her going on the radio to explain herself is a classic case of what not to do in a situation like this. It just adds fuel to the fire. She should have lied low for at least a week and let the whole thing blow over. Next week the media will have moved on to savage someone else.

Father Hernandez

PIORUN wrote: »

haven't you been listening to her...the media are wrong for hounding and to hell with those bastard keyboard warriors those guys are also wrong and the real problem here ;-)

:pac:

Marcusm

Balanadan wrote: »

I was down in Garryvoe at the weekend and I was HORRIFIED that there were young children using swings UNSUPERVISED!

They are suitable for children just not for fully grown sober morons, it seems! There is clearly no basic iq test for a politician or perhaps a bye for second gen politicians. Ah sure, I guess she wasn’t found accepting donations from developers she claimed to have lodged planning objections against, unlike other Baileys!

ChikiChiki

titan18 wrote: »

seamus wrote: »

I think the impact of this case shouldn't be understated. Yeah, it's a little bit of a joke and a laugh, stupid woman suing because she doesn't know how to use a swing.

But with the information over the weekend that indicated she was very clearly trying on some insurance fraud, and now she's switched to playing the victim, people are generally livid about this. And what Leo does next is going to be seen as Fine Gael's opinion on the matter - if they do nothing, then FG have no problem with insurance fraud. Opinion polls will start going down the swanny, FF will start eying up an election.
If they let her go, then they're making a statement that the sh1tehawkery of the past won't be tolerated any more.

Enda was a grand man for turning a blind eye to this kind of stuff. But Leo "welfare cheats" Varadkar has made anti-fraud and anti-corruption a strong part of their message, and if they don't stick to it they're going to get hammered.

I personally think he's even let it go too soft by saying that he "wants to hear her side" before making a decision. It sounds like he's being reasonable, but at this stage she's already toast. Her side of the story is irrelevant; even if she's been completely wronged on this one and the media have been unfair to her, FG have to let her go. Something less conciliatory like, "The party leadership will meet to discuss the issue" would have sounded better. At the moment he sounds like he wants to give her a chance to stay.

I'd agree. Voted FG last two GEs, but they won't have my vote with this if they allow it to slide. I can excuse some of the other ****e like children's hospital and broadband plan as there's no other good options, but this would be a new low, even for them.

Seriously, how can you excuse the children's hospital overspend? It's just plain incompetence from FG.

Marcusm

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking Bailey has a point? I listened to her interview.

Why not let the judge decide?

At least that way the hotel might have recovered the legal costs she has forced it to incur.

The Rape of Lucretia

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Seriously, how can you excuse the children's hospital overspend? It's just plain incompetence from FG.

No, it's incompetence from the construction industry, architects, engineers, project managers,plumbers, planners, decorators, lawyers, the HSE, doctors, elecricians, quantity surveyors. If they all did their job honestly, professionally, efficiently, and with moral backbone, the costs would not be the runaway embarrassment of Ireland that they are.
Nothing to do with a political party. Does anyone (other than blind fan boys of whatever party) seriously believe that the costs would be any different whatever party we're in govt.?

titan18

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Seriously, how can you excuse the children's hospital overspend? It's just plain incompetence from FG.

Oh it is. It's just I'd expect nothing different from any other party there. It's incompetent and wouldn't surprise me if someone was making money off it, but I doubt Fianna Fail, Sinn Fein, Labour etc would be any different in regards it. It's just someone different making money off it.

Marcusm

jon1981 wrote: »

And this is what make my blood boil. It's claims like this that end up impacting us all, if she was awarded the 60k , the Dean will likely remove the seats.

Basically these claims, facilitated by the courts, end up hitting us all whether it's financial cost through increased premiums or just spoiling the god damn fun!

All because a fecking adult can't be responsible!

They are now protected structures and perhaps should be upgraded to national monuments. It’s the ephemera such as this which makes politics worthwhile.

Kivaro

Did anyone else catch how she enunciated the words "polished wood" when describing the swing's seat? As if that was reason she slid off the swing.

Jebus, she was really grasping at straws to blame everything and everyone except herself.
I better dump anything in the house that is polished wood.
Dangerous stuff ..... polished wood.

lemd

Just listened to the interview. Shooting yourself in the foot is bad enough without it being in your mouth at the time. What was she thinking?

VinLieger

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking Bailey has a point? I listened to her interview.

Why not let the judge decide?

Shes the one who dropped the case, so its her fault for not letting the judge decide, nobody made her take the case, nobody made her lie about every aspect of the case and nobody made her drop the case.


In none of this is she in any way a victim, everything she has done and the repercussions that resulted have been entirely of her own making.

Simple_Simone

Muahahaha wrote: »

Lets hope the media now get to the bottom of her 2004 claim against her employer Aer Lingus. Apparantly that time the anti-social hours that she knew in advance she would have to work about and that she signed up to gave her migraines. But instead of finding a 9-5 job like anyone else would she sues them and the rumour is now that she got an out of court settlement of €160,000.

Aer Lingus was a loss making semi state at the time so thats literally taxpayers money lining Marias pockets.

Thanks for that detail. I had read the reference to "a Maria Bailey" suing Aer Lingus back in 2004, but had no idea of the details or of the figures involved.
Of course that was back in the days of Bertie economics when taxpayers' funds were being thrown in all directions.

Hopefully someone in Aer Lingus will spill the beans.

Marcusm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Someone else posted here, that the firm representing her maybe the link. It was suggested the present culture minister objected to a development application from the same individuals that own the hotel in question.

They own most of the licences premises and restaurants which have opened over the past 5 years (Press Up group) so hardly surprising that there would be objections.

Muahahaha

Did anyone notice that in the interview she said twice "You know me as a person of integrity Sean". I doubt Sean O'Rourke knows her at all, she was literally putting words in his mouth. Id say that weasel words technique is straight out of the Terry Prone playbook for radio interviews, you just say to the interviewer that they know you as an honest person, ergo you must be an honest person. When in fact the interviewer didnt make any pronouncement one way or the other.

Anyway Paddy Power odds on Maria Bailey being suspended from Fine Gael in 2019
Yes 1/2
No 6/4

Wheety

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

No, it's incompetence from the construction industry, architects, engineers, project managers,plumbers, planners, decorators, lawyers, the HSE, doctors, elecricians, quantity surveyors. If they all did their job honestly, professionally, efficiently, and with moral backbone, the costs would not be the runaway embarrassment of Ireland that they are.
Nothing to do with a political party. Does anyone (other than blind fan boys of whatever party) seriously believe that the costs would be any different whatever party we're in govt.?

Yawn

Marcusm

FishOnABike wrote: »

Indeed, this is what happens when candidates are chosen to fulfill quotas rather than being selected based on quality.

Ah that’s not fair. She was not chosen for being a woman. She was chosen because her dad is a long standing FG councillor. It’s not pro-female bias, it’s simple nepotism.

seamus

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Seriously, how can you excuse the children's hospital overspend? It's just plain incompetence from FG.

As said already, there is no other person or party in the country that can deliver the hospital any cheaper. Maybe someone else would have notified the government a bit earlier, but nobody was getting it cheaper. This project is 30 years in the making, it didn't start when FG got into government.

Simple_Simone

SirGerryAdams wrote: »

Am I alone in thinking Bailey has a point?

What point?

The hotel had offered to pay her medical expenses, so liability wasn't an issue.

She has stated that she wasn't seeking compo, so, if we take her at her word, the court case can only have been about how much those 'medical expenses' amounted to. And, given that most medical practitioners give receipts, it is baffling that she needed to go to court to get her medical bills paid.

[the question of potentially claiming medical expenses on the double (assuming that she had private health insurance) might have come into play if she had let the case run its course.]

titan18

seamus wrote: »

As said already, there is no other person or party in the country that can deliver the hospital any cheaper. Maybe someone else would have notified the government a bit earlier, but nobody was getting it cheaper. This project is 30 years in the making, it didn't start when FG got into government.

I wouldn't be sure other people couldn't do it. Someone probably can. They just definitely don't work in politics.

nuac

imho she should be suspended from the chair of the various committees she is listed as chairing.
The interview with SO'R was reeking of arrogance
A toddler of one year knows how to hold onto the ropes on a swing

doubledeutsch

Simple_Simone wrote: »

What point?

The hotel had offered to pay her medical expenses, so liability wasn't an issue.

She has stated that she wasn't seeking compo, so, if we take her at her word, the court case can only have been about how much those 'medical expenses' amounted to. And, given that most medical practitioners give receipts, it is baffling that she needed to go to court to get her medical bills paid.

[the question of potentially claiming medical expenses on the double (assuming that she had private health insurance) might have come into play if she had let the case run its course.]

I assume the Hotel was disputing either the cost or the necessity of those medical expenses?

She may have tied herself up in knots in that interview, but ultimately she was right, it was nobody's business except her, the Hotel and the court.

Simple_Simone

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Seriously, how can you excuse the children's hospital overspend? It's just plain incompetence from FG.

It's not an overspend. It's an underestimate!

But yes, it's pure incompetence on a massive scale from the Board that the Government had set up to implement the project. Small wonder that the Chairman of the board resigned.

But you'd want to be a complete idiot (or a supporter of the loonie left) to think that FG wanted the hospital to cost the taxpayer more than twice as much as they were told it would cost. Where's the political gain for them in that?

Mr. CooL ICE

Kivaro wrote: »

she was really grasping at straws

Ah ha, that's why she fell

suicide_circus

Joegriffin2019 wrote: »

The interview on Sean O Rourke this morning, shes some neck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

Simple_Simone

doubledeutsch wrote: »

I assume the Hotel was disputing either the cost or the necessity of those medical expenses?

She may have tied herself up in knots in that interview, but ultimately she was right, it was nobody's business except her, the Hotel and the court.

Yep - makes you wonder why a bona fide litigant like poor Maria decided to drop the case!

As my old grandfather used always tell me, "(s)he who comes into equity must come with clean hands."

doubledeutsch

Simple_Simone wrote: »

Yep - makes you wonder why a bona fide litigant like poor Maria decided to drop the case!

As my old grandfather used always tell me, "(s)he who comes into equity must come with clean hands."

Agreed - it's a wonder - I find it hard to believe she was doing it all for the sake of collecting a grand or two either though. But maybe. Completely foolish if so.

odyssey06

doubledeutsch wrote: »

I assume the Hotel was disputing either the cost or the necessity of those medical expenses? She may have tied herself up in knots in that interview, but ultimately she was right, it was nobody's business except her, the Hotel and the court.

What happens in court is everybody's business. Especially perjury.

Sardonicat

Muahahaha wrote: »

Lets hope the media now get to the bottom of her 2004 claim against her employer Aer Lingus. Apparantly that time the anti-social hours that she knew in advance she would have to work about and that she signed up to gave her migraines. But instead of finding a 9-5 job like anyone else would she sues them and the rumour is now that she got an out of court settlement of €160,000.

I get migraine. Who can I blame?! Seriously, she got a payout for migraine? I'm missing a trick here obviously. I always thought I was unlucky to have migraine but apparently it could be someone's fault and I could make them give me money.

"I've learned so much this week about social media" yeah you need to give it a wider berth.


"and about mental health" why not play the race card while you're chomping bits out of that old chestnut!!

"I'm a strong independent woman" not strong enough evidently to support your own weight on a swing love!

Muahahaha

https://twitter.com/9fingersvin/status/1132950246923874304

lbc2019

https://twitter.com/brianmlloyd/status/1133000251982438401?s=21

Suckit

Snow Garden wrote: »

Being cynical I imagine some journalists will get extra scrutiny from the Gardai for leaking this story before the local elections.

It might make them lose the yellow streak they have when it comes to investigating most politicians.

suicide_circus

cant imagine other women in politics will be impressed that she went straight for the gender card having been caught out in her scam?

whoever advised her to go on Rte did not have her best interests at heart.

FAILSAFE 00

https://twitter.com/newsworthy_ie/status/1133012617449099265

KSU

Was gonna look into her claims about her 10k time but someone bet me too it

https://www.balls.ie/athletics/maria-bailey-laments-poor-10km-time-411273

Had a look at her times over longer distances and nothing would indicate she has ever been in shape to go quicker than 52/53 range.

lbc2019

https://twitter.com/pjnellbone/status/1132997619897257984?s=21

Why the higher court??

IvoryTower

suicide_circus wrote: »

whoever advised her to go on Rte did not have her best interests at heart.

It wasn't fg apparently, they'll be raging

They can't get rid of her at the moment anyway

What an incredibly inarticulate speaker she is! That interview hurt my ears , awful stuff . She needs to go .

Plumbthedepths

lbc2019 wrote:

Why the higher court??

Higher court, higher compensation.

Ash.J.Williams

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Higher court, higher compensation.

Madigan said she had a clear cut case

Itssoeasy

IvoryTower wrote: »

It wasn't fg apparently, they'll be raging

They can't get rid of her at the moment anyway

Yeah Regina Doherty was trying to be fair to her this morning but when she was talking I got the vibe of "you fecking eijit maria" from Regina Doherty.

Itssoeasy

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Madigan said she had a clear cut case

I'm presuming that was based on what Maria Bailey told her which then had to amended it seems. I'd say there will be some tension between the minister and deputy Bailey.

angel eyes 2012

lbc2019 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/pjnellbone/status/1132997619897257984?s=21

Why the higher court??

Exactly, pity SOR didn't ask her if the case was that she was only seeking medical expenses from the hotel, why didn't her solicitors issue proceedings through the District Court - unless we are missing something obvious - otherwise it's blatantly obvious that she was seeking general damages in excess of €15k.

suicide_circus

at least we can see the type of person Joesepha Madigan is too.

listermint

lbc2019 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/pjnellbone/status/1132997619897257984?s=21

Why the higher court??

Well a solicitor would have had to advised on that.

As clients wouldn't know that sort of information.


Who's the solicitor in all of this.

VinLieger

doubledeutsch wrote: »

I assume the Hotel was disputing either the cost or the necessity of those medical expenses?

She may have tied herself up in knots in that interview, but ultimately she was right, it was nobody's business except her, the Hotel and the court.

When there's a national issue regarding bogus claims hiking insurance premiums across the board its everybody's business that a Government TD is complicit in the problem

ToBeFrank123

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Madigan said she had a clear cut case

I won't be going to her for legal advice any time soon. It was obvious she had no case from day one.

Some legal firms in this country are a lot to blame for the compo culture. It just so happens there is a cosy relationship between many legal firms and political parties, ie they are one and the same.

Laws made in the Dail affect the ability of legal firms to make money or pursue cases hence their motive for getting at least one family member into the Dail.

suicide_circus

the legal profession is a blight on society. parasitic. fundamentally dishonest.

VinLieger

listermint wrote: »

Well a solicitor would have had to advised on that.

As clients wouldn't know that sort of information.


Who's the solicitor in all of this.

Shes using Josephas Madigans family firm, Josepha was involved in obstructing planning permission for an apartment development that was sought by the owners of the Dean so there's suspicion they leaked it to the media to retaliate knowing full well how bad it would look due to the insurance hikes cus of bogus claims and that Maria's claim would never stand up to public scrutiny.