Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

The Bishop Basher

gimli2112 wrote: »

While you could describe it as insurance fraud, unfortunately I think that would be very difficult to prove.

She stated in a legal document presented to the court that she was unable to take part in any physical activity following the event.

3 weeks later she was bragging online about finishing a 10km race with an excellent time of 53 mins.

So either she lied in the documents she submitted to the court and significantly exaggerated the extent of her injuries or she lied about running the 10km race and was actually at home nursing this incredibly painful injury at the time of the race..

She can't have it every which way so which was it ?

Doc07

BattleCorp wrote: »

She'll be convicted at the ballot box next re-election time.

If the election is very soon maybe, if it’s a year away she’ll be grand.
Just needs to do some charity runs etc before the next election.
There is not much evidence of the people ever punishing Irish politicians for unethical or distasteful behavioir(this case) and more often actual corruption or illegal behavior.
The 3 recently returned councilors, Lowry, Bertie, Stagg etc.

daithi7

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

There undoubtedly is substance to it.

But the press is both part of, and gains from, that type of orchestration, so has little interest in acknowledging it, let alone studying it or taking it into account in the drip drip hounding of their prey.

And it is clear that this is both colouring Bailey's handling of the issue, and colouring much of the publics view who are ignoring this element in order to enjoy too much the personalised savaging of her. The two sides are seeing different events in effect, and so are at cross purposes.

She is presenting herself as a victim, due to this organised dirty tricks. Which makes her seem arrogant, dim, and out of touch with reality to those who are missing that element of events. The press and mob just don't want to complicate their simplistic mocking and feeding frenzy.

Live by the sword, die by the sword....

Stop moaning ffs

Is Leo just hoping this will blow over?
He has to tell her that her position is untenable. At the very least.

I can 100% hear her simply repeating to him everything she said on the radio interview.

People can’t and won’t forget this. She has to go.

ChikiChiki

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

TomOnBoard wrote: »

It's not gone quiet at all. The Commission just started an investigation into Insurance Ireland operating a cartel earlier this month.

https://www.thejournal.ie/european-commission-insurance-ireland-4633705-May2019/

Good to see.

Doing Fine Gaels job for them.

Stop moaning ffs

Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

Is Leo just hoping this will blow over?
He has to tell her that her position is untenable. At the very least.

I can 100% hear her simply repeating to him everything she said on the radio interview.

People can’t and won’t forget this. She has to go.

Awwww Leeeeee O. You know me, Leeeeee O

Harry Palmr

cant find the link, but there's a study about a successful claim links with a programme of physiotherapy sessions suddenly ending from one of the Irish universities.

Hector Savage

Sean O Rourke asking her did she have something in each hand .... "Sean that's for a Judge to decide...."
Unreal, just unreal.

Hope her career is over.

BattleCorp

Harry Palmr wrote: »

cant find the link, but there's a study about a successful claim links with a programme of physiotherapy sessions suddenly ending from one of the Irish universities.

Is this what you are thinking of?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/all-whiplash-patients-who-attended-spine-specialist-took-legal-action-and-most-stopped-visiting-after-legal-action-finished-study-says-38158620.html?fbclid=IwAR2DKj9uwhMmxZTM101lcwbEkJ6LZwPoWrMnlSPJ3Lr--Iv7dzkIaxesfeQ

k123456

mikemac2 wrote: »

Developers influencing politicians

We’ve been there before

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

Harry Palmr

BattleCorp wrote: »

Is this what you are thinking of?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/all-whiplash-patients-who-attended-spine-specialist-took-legal-action-and-most-stopped-visiting-after-legal-action-finished-study-says-38158620.html?fbclid=IwAR2DKj9uwhMmxZTM101lcwbEkJ6LZwPoWrMnlSPJ3Lr--Iv7dzkIaxesfeQ

Thanks, was on my phone can couldn't be arsed to link!

Damning concussion er conclusion

A new study has found 100pc of Irish whiplash patients attending a spine specialist pursued legal action.

The researchers examined all the whiplash cases attending a specialist spine surgeon in Ireland over a 15-year period.

The NUI Galway study found the visits to the specialist stopped in almost all cases when the legal action was finalised.

The authors said: "Of note, despite the reported severity of whiplash symptoms, only a small proportion of patients returned for a further consultation once their litigation settled."

Patients were reviewed in the clinic twice on average during the litigation process with medico-legal reports requested on each occasion. Only 3pc of patients were seen in the clinic after receiving the last solicitor's letter.

"This suggests either that their symptoms may be related to the legal process and resolve once complete or that they see no further benefit in presenting to a specialist spine practice, given that the majority were managed conservatively", said the study

Mrsmum

From article in the indo today.

"Notably, her close ally in Fine Gael Kate O'Connell changed her cover photograph on Facebook to remove one that included Ms Bailey since the radio interview".

That's gotta hurt.

ChikiChiki

Mrsmum wrote: »

From article in the indo today.

"Notably, her close ally in Fine Gael Kate O'Connell changed her cover photograph on Facebook to remove one that included Ms Bailey since the radio interview".

That's gotta hurt.

Maybe there is a 3rd FG TD involved by being present on the night?

maxwell smart

Mrsmum wrote: »

From article in the indo today.

"Notably, her close ally in Fine Gael Kate O'Connell changed her cover photograph on Facebook to remove one that included Ms Bailey since the radio interview".

That's gotta hurt.

O'Connell also had her sister in the picture who is running for office in Tipperary.

I would love if someone did a chart of how interconnected and inter-related the politicans are in Ireland. I think it would be quite shocking for the public.

Yurt2

maxwell smart wrote: »

O'Connell also had her sister in the picture who is running for office in Tipperary.

I would love if someone did a chart of how interconnected and inter-related the politicans are in Ireland. I think it would be quite shocking for the public.

Read it and weep...

(Obviously doesn't even include family and friends employed as drivers, secretaries, special advisors and people appointed to boards and various other sinecures).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Families_in_the_Oireachtas

Although I happen to think Kate O'Connell is one of the better FG TDs, but herself and her sisters are staging some sort of putsch within Fine Gael (she also employs her younger sister as an advisor).

VinLieger

maxwell smart wrote: »

O'Connell also had her sister in the picture who is running for office in Tipperary.

I would love if someone did a chart of how interconnected and inter-related the politicans are in Ireland. I think it would be quite shocking for the public.

Maria employs her father and sister as assistants/advisors. Her Father is also a councilor in dun laoighaire/rathdown earning 47k

weldoninhio

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Apparently Madigans and the hotel parent company have history - there's CCTV of the incident which they were planning to show.

Josepha nor Maria will confirm or deny who the lawyer involved with was, Madigan saying client confidentiality, which is understandable.

Why Bailey isn't just saying it wasn't Josepha though is anyones guess.

If she wasn't representing her, couldn't she say straight out that she wasn't, without breaching "client confidentiality" as she isn't a client.

smurgen

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Wasn’t FG who raided them.

Was the EU, read the article at least ffs.

I was talking about you,rabid fg supporter in chief. You've taken to defending insurance fraud in support of the party.

Harry Palmr

Like the media politics is a small incestuous pool of questionable talent. They all know they can work to the advantage of friends and family.

VinLieger

weldoninhio wrote: »

If she wasn't representing her, couldn't she say straight out that she wasn't, without breaching "client confidentiality" as she isn't a client.

Thats the problem they have, i think simply saying she was or was not advising or representing her doesn't actually break privilege but she also doesn't want to admit it, however she also doesnt want to be caught in the lie by denying it if the truth ever does get out there so they are going with the non-answer

ToBeFrank123

There are enough lawyers and solicitors in the Dail and Seanad to frustrate or lobby against any changes to personal injury laws. Anything which stops legal firms making money will be prevented. There's a huge conflict of interest there, solicitors who come from legal firms involved in PI also legislating for it.

If there is a whiff of Josepha Madigan advising Bailey to proceed with her case, Madigan also needs to resign/be sacked.

ASOT

The FM104 skit this morning about her was quality.

maxwell smart

Yurt! wrote: »

Read it and weep...

(Obviously doesn't even include family and friends employed as drivers, secretaries, special advisors and people appointed to boards and various other sinecures).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Families_in_the_Oireachtas

Although I happen to think Kate O'Connell is one of the better FG TDs, but herself and her sisters are staging some sort of putsch within Fine Gael (she also employs her younger sister as an advisor).

Thanks for that, is there a sort of Organisational Chart with that info? I need visuals :D

Corby Trouser Press

Mrsmum wrote: »

From article in the indo today.

"Notably, her close ally in Fine Gael Kate O'Connell changed her cover photograph on Facebook to remove one that included Ms Bailey since the radio interview".

That's gotta hurt.

Photo updated a day ago.

Sums O'Connell up.

She's fine to be best mates with her photogenic colleague while she's pursuing the claim but once Bailey goes and makes a show of herself on national radio she's out of the girlos gang and off the profile pic.

What a viper.

Great instincts for spin, She'll be Taoiseach someday.

earlyevening

VinLieger wrote: »

Maria employs her father and sister as assistants/advisors. Her Father is also a councilor in dun laoighaire/rathdown earning 47k

and I'll bet she claims maximum unvouched expenses too (wish I had 5mins to check that right now)

ChikiChiki

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

There are enough lawyers and solicitors in the Dail and Seanad to frustrate or lobby against any changes to personal injury laws. Anything which stops legal firms making money will be prevented. There's a huge conflict of interest there, solicitors who come from legal firms involved in PI also legislating for it.

If there is a whiff of Josepha Madigan advising Bailey to proceed with her case, Madigan also needs to resign/be sacked.

Conflicts of interest everywhere. Its the same with housing and the rental market. A huge percentage of government TDs are landlords.

Yurt2

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Conflicts of interest everywhere. Its the same with housing and the rental market. A huge percentage of government TDs are landlords.

They should have their profession / declaration of interest branded on their foreheads when speaking in Leinster House.

InTheShadows

Insurance renewal quote this morning for the bike jumped from 320 to 560 per year. No claims ever. FG have to kick this woman to touch. Her and her ilk are a burden on us all imo.

InTheShadows

VinLieger wrote: »

Maria employs her father and sister as assistants/advisors. Her Father is also a councilor in dun laoighaire/rathdown earning 47k

Gravy train.

marieholmfan

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Conflicts of interest everywhere. Its the same with housing and the rental market. A huge percentage of government TDs are landlords.

Madigan's father led the case against rent control in the early eighties.
The Chief Justice at the time was a significant landlord, early investor in Sherry Fitzgerald (owned by Mark Fitzgerald a former Fine Gael director of elections and Party Trustee) and clearly an interest in ensuring that house prices were maintained (at a time when they were falling as compared with incomes and prices).