General Premier League Thread 2019-20

citytillidie

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I see Sergio Ramos finished the season with as many goals as Rashford but in less game

What has that got to do with 2019-20 season?

This is it

citytillidie wrote: »

What has that got to do with 2019-20 season?

Bizarre comment. Whilst primarily used for discussing the coming season it's inevitable that past seasons will be discussed and compared. Are you suggesting that we should only speak of the 19/20 season and never reference anything outside of it? Again, bizarre.

citytillidie

This is it wrote: »

Bizarre comment. Whilst primary used for discussing the coming season it's inevitable that past seasons will be discussed and compared. Are you suggesting that we should only speak of the 19/20 season and never reference anything outside of it? Again, bizarre.

Well considering one of the players does not even play in the Premier league and not likely to play in the Premier League what was the point of the statement?

yourdeadwright

the whole year inn wrote: »

Yea I realize hes a center back , but hes a center back that takes Penos .
Just pointing out that its a sneaky stat, trying to make the kid look worse than he is.

He does that himself only joking any idea how many of Ramos's goal where pens ?
I know Rashford scored 1 v PSG but was it his only one ?

the whole year inn

yourdeadwright wrote: »

He does that himself only joking any idea how many of Ramos's goal where pens ?
I know Rashford scored 1 v PSG but was it his only one ?

Not a United fan but I hate those sneaky stats, I dont know how many Ramos penos scored but Id say they be pretty high amount.

yourdeadwright

the whole year inn wrote: »

Not a United fan but I hate those sneaky stats, I dont know how many Ramos penos scored but Id say they be pretty high amount.

I just checked I think he took 11 and missed 3 , Some amount of pens that

This is it

citytillidie wrote: »

Well considering one of the players does not even play in the Premier league and not likely to play in the Premier League what was the point of the statement?

The point is pretty clear, not that I agree a comparison can be made. I'm sure a quick look at your previous posts in the 18/19 thread would see mention of players from other leagues or previous seasons, no?

yourdeadwright

citytillidie wrote: »

Well considering one of the players does not even play in the Premier league and not likely to play in the Premier League what was the point of the statement?

Sorry should i pass every topic with yourself before I decide to post .
Man you must be having a bad day if your moaning at that, hope it all works out for you,

pjohnson

While we are at it I'd take a punt and say Ramos scored more last year than lets say Virgil Van Dijk, Martin Dubravka, Jack Wilshere, Ryan Bertrand, Dan Gosling, Robbie Keane, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink and Moritz Volz did combined last year.

#stats

citytillidie

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Sorry should i pass every topic with yourself before I decide to post .
Man you must be having a bad day if your moaning at that, hope it all works out for you,

Not at all but you know what you’re doing.

TitianGerm

Adamcp898 wrote: »

I can’t see Premier Sports paying all that money for the Irish broadcast rights to that package only to sit idly by and watch Amazon grant UK access to every Irish Prime sub who requests it.

Most people in Ireland have access to the Irish Prime content. If you email/use live chat you can get them to transfer you to the UK service and you'll have access to a lot more stuff.

Adamcp898

TitianGerm wrote: »

Most people in Ireland have access to the Irish Prime content. If you email/use live chat you can get them to transfer you to the UK service and you'll have access to a lot more stuff.

That's exactly what I said............................

Trigger

citytillidie wrote: »

Not at all but you know what you’re doing.

Nice to see someone other than United fans call him out on this sort of nonsense, fair play

Harry Palmr

So then Lampard will be installed as Chelsea's 2019/2020 manager and Sarri to be announced at Juve tomorrow by the looks of it.

Iused2likebusts

astradave wrote: »

Nice to see someone other than United fans call him out on this sort of nonsense, fair play

I agree and it would be nice if this continued from both sides going forward. Its the only way this thread will not turn into what it usually does.

the whole year inn

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then Lampard will be installed as Chelsea's 2019/2020 manager and Sarri to be announced at Juve tomorrow by the looks of it.

That could be a disaster, Lampard is crazy to think he can help that mess. Hes a braver man than me.

niallo27

the whole year inn wrote: »

That could be a disaster, Lampard is crazy to think he can help that mess. Hes a braver man than me.

Its impossible for him to turn it down. The players will have no where to hide, fans will back him over the players all day long.

the whole year inn

niallo27 wrote: »

Its impossible for him to turn it down. The players will have no where to hide, fans will back him over the players all day long.

Why because he a club legend ,look at ole he should have stepped aside and can see fans turning on him soon pretty fast.

niallo27

the whole year inn wrote: »

Why because he a club legend ,look at ole he should have stepped aside and can see fans turning on him soon pretty fast.

Fair point yes, unlike Ole, Lampard has actually looked like he has a future in the game at the top. He did a good job at Derby, I think it's a risk worth taking from Chelsea.

GLaDOS

Di Matteo won the bloody Champions league and still couldn't last a season.

If Chelsea don't perform Lampard will be on the scrap heap in no time.

Mushy

niallo27 wrote: »

Fair point yes, unlike Ole, Lampard has actually looked like he has a future in the game at the top. He did a good job at Derby, I think it's a risk worth taking from Chelsea.

Other managers got sacked at Derby for getting the playoffs. He did an ok job at best, made playoff final due to an hilarious/infuriating and spectacular collapse by Leeds.

Very risky by Chelsea, especially this early in his career. Ole at Utd...that's a symptom of Utd at the moment, wouldn't be worth comparing. As you say, Lampard looks like he may have a future at the top.

Unearthly

With the transfer ban it's probably hard to attract a world class manager.

If it goes wrong, maybe get Allegri next year who is on sabbatical?

yourdeadwright

Be interesting to see what position was played most by the top mangers as players,

I'd imagine defenders and midfielders would have a better understanding of the game and tactic's , Most forwards / wingers play off the cuff with instinct and pace ,

Might sound stupid but even growing the intelligent lads always tended to be Defenders or Midfielders and the care free souls wingers or forwards ,

yourdeadwright

Mushy wrote: »

Other managers got sacked at Derby for getting the playoffs. He did an ok job at best, made playoff final due to an hilarious/infuriating and spectacular collapse by Leeds.

Very risky by Chelsea, especially this early in his career. Ole at Utd...that's a symptom of Utd at the moment, wouldn't be worth comparing. As you say, Lampard looks like he may have a future at the top.

I reckon the head at Chelsea might see this as almost a free shot of a season,
The transfer ban kind of makes it an odd season for them ,
Very hard to attract a top manger with no new players and the sale of Hazard,

Frank would not cost the world and they would get a good idea of how good he is and either keep him for next year or just let him go in the summer,

pjohnson

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Be interesting to see what position was played most by the top mangers as players,

I'd imagine defenders and midfielders would have a better understanding of the game and tactic's , Most forwards / wingers play off the cuff with instinct and pace ,

Might sound stupid but even growing the intelligent lads always tended to be Defenders or Midfielders and the care free souls wingers or forwards ,

Thats harsh. Klopp was a striker for Mainz iirc. He later moved back to defence but was still Mainz's top scorer for years.

Cryuff, Ferguson, Clough & Dalglish were all pretty okay aswell I think most will agree.

Your hypothesis is false.

yourdeadwright

pjohnson wrote: »

Thats harsh. Klopp was a striker for Mainz iirc. He later moved back to defence but was still Mainz's top scorer for years.

Obviously there will be some forwards who made great manger's , id love to see the stats on it ,

Clough and Fergie where forwards by all accounts

I'm guessing a lot of forwards are also paid more so never go into management and just retire when they finish playing ,

yourdeadwright

pjohnson wrote: »

Thats harsh. Klopp was a striker for Mainz iirc. He later moved back to defence but was still Mainz's top scorer for years.

Cryuff, Ferguson, Clough & Dalglish were all pretty okay aswell I think most will agree.

Your hypothesis is false.

Cryuff was more attacking midfielder , but ye the other 3 certainly strikers ,
Is there any Prem manger currently who finished there playing days as forwards ?

MD1990

Hazard gone.

Loftus Cheek,Hudson Odoi long term in injuries,Transfer Ban, A few aging players past their best in Luiz,Willian,Pedro,Azpilcueta.

Huge job for Lampard.

yourdeadwright

I done a quick search and at the start of the season just gone only Hughes and Wagner where striker from all the mangers and both got the sack,
Warnock was a winger ,

yourdeadwright

MD1990 wrote: »

Hazard gone.

Loftus Cheek,Hudson Odoi long term in injuries,Transfer Ban, A few aging players past their best in Luiz,Willian,Pedro,Azpilcueta.

Huge job for Lampard.

Getting in could be a good move to just keep the fans happy for a season , Chelsea fans would be delighted to start the season with him ,

pjohnson

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Is there any Prem manger currently who finished there playing days as forwards ?

Hmmm feels you are trying to get at someone extremely specific. Interesting caveats from the OP.

thebaz

said it a year or 2 ago , that Abramovich seams to be losing interest in Chelsea, when they bought Drinkwater and were linked with Peter Couch - then the new stadium postponed indefinitly - now they lose ther manager and best player when they have a transfer ban upon them - this is not the ambitious Chelsea of the past 20 years .

yourdeadwright

pjohnson wrote: »

Hmmm feels you are trying to get at someone extremely specific. Interesting caveats from the OP.

What you mean ?

ahhhhh I actually forget about Ole ,

Its just of odd there are very little striker's as mangers currently but as someone pointed out some the greatest manger's In the past where strikers
So who is to say Ole won't turn out to be one of them ,

I wasn't having a dig as there is no possible way to make a dig out of it,

pjohnson

yourdeadwright wrote: »

What you mean ?

ahhhhh I actually forget about Ole ,

Its just of odd there are very little striker's as mangers currently but as someone pointed out some the greatest manger's In the past where strikers
So who is to say Ole won't turn out to be one of them ,

I wasn't having a dig as there is no possible way to make a dig out of it,

Is Klopp no longer a manager?

Mushy

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I reckon the head at Chelsea might see this as almost a free shot of a season,
The transfer ban kind of makes it an odd season for them ,
Very hard to attract a top manger with no new players and the sale of Hazard,

Frank would not cost the world and they would get a good idea of how good he is and either keep him for next year or just let him go in the summer,

Yeah could be nothing to lose for either party. Unsure if they'd make CL though

yourdeadwright

pjohnson wrote: »

Is Klopp no longer a manager?

He is but spent the majority of his career as CB , Ye he started as a striker but from 95 to 2001 he was CB

Do you count Gareth Bale as left back or a winger ?

TitianGerm

MD1990 wrote: »

Hazard gone.

Loftus Cheek,Hudson Odoi long term in injuries,Transfer Ban, A few aging players past their best in Luiz,Willian,Pedro,Azpilcueta.

Huge job for Lampard.

I'm looking forward to seeing how Pulisic gets on. I think he'll do very well in the PL.

Fitz*

From what I can gather, a lot of Chelsea fans wanted Sarri out for a long time (one reason as he had never won anything), then don't want Allegri in at all (who has won loads) and now want Lampard in (who has won nothing and only one season of management).

It's really baffling. He has zero credentials. Lost the play off final at a club who are losing play offs every other season for about 5 years. It's a bad a appointment as Ole. But they have more time to plan for it and not a panic move like Ole was.

Utopia Parkway

Big risk for Lampard taking that job so early as well because while I'm sure it's a dream job for him, I'm also sure he probably felt he wouldn't get a chance at until a few years down the line while he built up his managerial CV. If he crashes and burns next season he might not get a shot at that job again.

cj maxx

Rafa leaves Newcastle

cjmc

cjmc wrote: »

Rafa leaves Newcastle

Big blow for them, but the board are to blame I'd suspect

Newcastle would be a good bet for relegation this coming season now IMO

rob316

Huge blow for Newcastle, certain to be relegated if Ashley doesn't sell up or invest serious funds into the squad.

Rafa to Chelsea maybe?

rob316

Fred The Red wrote: »

Big blow for them, but the board are to blame I'd suspect

Newcastle would be a good bet for relegation this coming season now IMO

Refuses to work under Ashley. The club been sold was the only way he would stay on.

Fitz*

Ridiculous from Newcastle. They are signing a death-knell there, especially with the players they have. An up and coming manager doesn't exactly have the strongest of bases to build upon to be fair.

Rafa could do a job for a number of PL teams. There are 2 or 3 of the top 6 teams included in that.

cjmc

cjmc wrote: »

Rafa leaves Newcastle

He can be in charge in Old Traford at Christmas

Father Hernandez

Deleted User wrote: »

He can be in charge in Old Traford at Christmas

Considering the affiliation with Liverpool, I don't see him ever going to United.

United not as big rivals as Chelsea

ERG89

Thought he'd stay tbh. For no other reason but he loves life in England as his family have stayed there. Also shows that the "takeover" at Newcastle is likely the latest load of b0llocks to come from the Ashley.
Could be staring at their 3rd relegation under him & how they didn't agree to buy Rondon months ago is another mystery to me.
Their key man last season when he played well they played well.

Agent Coulson

If I was Ed Woodward right now I'd be asking around for Rafa's phone number.

rob316

rob316 wrote: »

Refuses to work under Ashley. The club been sold was the only way he would stay on.

Who could blame the man?

MisterAnarchy

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If I was Ed Woodward right now I'd be asking around for Rafa's phone number.

Rafas style of football wouldn't be viewed as attractive enough for Utd.