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slave1

Think better off with a VAT qualifying UK sourced car dude, get vendor to deduct UK VAT

unkel

slave1 wrote: »

Think better off with a VAT qualifying UK sourced car dude, get vendor to deduct UK VAT

Duty adds 10% though. Our VAT is higher and then there is VRT. Can't see any UK Tesla being good value after all that.

The good thing is for all current Tesla owners in Ireland that all their cars are keeping their value really well now. Cheapest Tesla in this country by a long shot is a pre-facelift boggo S 85 for €33k in a private sale. No warranty, caveat emptor (although battery and drive train covered for another 2 years). Strong money. Next cheapest is another pre-facelift boggo S 85 for €37k. And it's white. Says it all.

AndyBoBandy

in 5-10 years, I'll be looking for a LHD EV for our holiday home in Lithuania, and would love it to be a dirty old Tesla!!

Now if only they built that bloody Supercharger in Kaunas!!

unkel

Just get an old Model S with free supercharging for life and drive over there and back for free - apart from a cheap ferry, but the cost of that will be more than offset by hundreds of kg of goodies to be brought back to Ireland

sk8board

unkel wrote: »

That depends on the discount

Absolutely.
Most cars in the Tesla price brackets these days go through a standard 6-7year model turnover with a midlife refresh along the way.
e.g the 5 series was released in Jan 2017 and in Jan 2021 it’s only selling the LCI model.

The model S appeared in 2012, and the nosecone has been the main external lifecycle refresh, so it’s well overdue.

So ... What’s an acceptable discount?
It’s €89k on the site tonight.

I was offered 15% off a mk7.5 run-out golf - could you realistically get the same % from Tesla and get one for €75k?

unkel

No idea. But a friend was recently offered a demo model X P for about €30k below list price. So a lot more than 15% off

That car has since sold. Someone got a lot of motor for the money.

sk8board

unkel wrote: »

No idea. But a friend was recently offered a demo model X P for about €30k below list price. So a lot more than 15% off

That car has since sold. Someone got a lot of motor for the money.

It’s still €80-90k for an X. It’s very subjective, but (like most manufacturer performance models), the performance model Tesla’s are very poor value to begin with versus their real world performance gain, so getting a discount is fair game on those imho.

unkel

X P he was looking at was about €127k, he got offered it with €30k off, so nearly 25% discount

And I disagree about the P models, I'd go so far as to say the only good value Model 3 out there is the P - one of the very EVs for sale of any brand that are not overpriced. Imho.

slave1

I think the 3 P is good value versus European pricing but not good value for what you get, horses for courses I suppose, a 3 would just not be a family car for me whereas the S ticked the boxes

unkel

Yeah not suitable for me either. My family car needs to have a hatchback, a saloon won't do. Model 3 would also be a bit on the small side for me (family of 5 with 3 teenage kids)

But it is a spectacular car for the money. Obviously that is pretty meaningless if you are not a "petrol head" and not into sports / performance cars.

ELM327

MCU2 upgrade now almost half price, down to €1500 including radio swap.
Posted (incl screenshots) in the Tesla Owners Ireland facebook group this morning.

I had an MCU event last night and have a service visit booked for next week. I am now considering strongly (even though I had the visit booked before hearing about the price cut, and that I only have AP1) getting the MCu2

unkel

Better than €3k but still a lot of money for a slightly better and faster computer with just a few useful add-ons like Netflix etc.

ELM327

If your MCU1 is going, you're out of warranty (even the new extra warranty) due to kms, and the MCU1 fix is 500 quid (I saw that as the price to supply and fit a refurbished MCU1 entire new unit). I think that's when things get interesting.

If I had >= AP2 I would have gotten it already.

Gumbo

ELM327 wrote: »

MCU2 upgrade now almost half price, down to €1500 including radio swap.
Posted (incl screenshots) in the Tesla Owners Ireland facebook group this morning.

I had an MCU event last night and have a service visit booked for next week. I am now considering strongly (even though I had the visit booked before hearing about the price cut, and that I only have AP1) getting the MCu2

I've been following the reduction in the US, then the IRL Store.
For us peasants, with older MS without any AP, any real benefit to this upgrade?

ELM327

If you have no AP at all, you have MCU v0 and dont have the problems with emmc etc that MCU v1 has. So you dont really need a preventative fix.
You can get it (once you have a powered liftgate) and the only benefit would be the add ons, like netflix, caraoke etc, along with faster response time and clearer resolution.

Gumbo

ELM327 wrote: »

If you have no AP at all, you have MCU v0 and dont have the problems with emmc etc that MCU v1 has. So you dont really need a preventative fix.
You can get it (once you have a powered liftgate) and the only benefit would be the add ons, like netflix, caraoke etc, along with faster response time and clearer resolution.

Yes I have the powered liftgate (Rear Boot?).
I don't think id need it tbh, the previous owner done the 4G/LTE upgrade and that seems to work pretty well.

Netflix would be cool, but after initial happiness, id say that will wear off quickly.

garo

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/used/5YJSB7H14FFP72827


Some good bargains in the UK now. Of course irrelevant to us. But I wonder if this price drop is due to Brexit or CoVid or the reduction in guarantee.


£28,700 for a 72k miles 2015 S85 with upgraded sound and AP is not at all terrible in my book.

AndyBoBandy

Few nice Model 3 bargains as well...

SR+ = £36,800
P = £49,900

ELM327

garo wrote: »

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/used/5YJSB7H14FFP72827


Some good bargains in the UK now. Of course irrelevant to us. But I wonder if this price drop is due to Brexit or CoVid or the reduction in guarantee.


£28,700 for a 72k miles 2015 S85 with upgraded sound and AP is not at all terrible in my book.

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Few nice Model 3 bargains as well...

SR+ = £36,800
P = £49,900

Irrelevant to us unless you are registered for GB vat and/or have a contact in NI.

unkel

Even if you could find a VAT qualifying car, the extra VAT + import duty would be nearly €4k on a GBP30k car

AndyBoBandy

unkel wrote: »

Even if you could find a VAT qualifying car, the extra VAT + import duty would be nearly €4k on a GBP30k car

Looks like your deal will go down in history unkel...

Never again will such a deal be had.

ELM327

A lot of folks here bought from the UK, either from tesla direct or from third party sellers. Most got significant savings over what was here at the time. When I bought my S in nov '19, I paid 5k less than what nose cone cars -2 years older and some without AP - were listed at here on DD.

Those days seem gone now.

unkel

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Looks like your deal will go down in history unkel...

Never again will such a deal be had.

It was the cheapest car that Tesla ever sold. Worldwide. Perhaps one day they will sell a cheaper one, but probably not for a good few years anyway

Geeyfds53573

unkel wrote: »

It was the cheapest car that Tesla ever sold. Worldwide. Perhaps one day they will sell a cheaper one, but probably not for a good few years anyway

I’m afraid unkel you have a few too many posts. What were the details I have heard it been mentioned here before so must have been awesome.

AndyBoBandy

Geeyfds53573 wrote: »

I’m afraid unkel you have a few too many posts. What were the details I have heard it been mentioned here before so must have been awesome.

Should be all in here..


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058060750

cnocbui

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

Should be all in here..


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058060750

Is it mentioned anywhere in the first 20 pages?

AndyBoBandy

cnocbui wrote: »

Is it mentioned anywhere in the first 20 pages?

Search all posts from unkel in that thread and read the first 10-15 posts.

Or don’t.

ELM327

cnocbui wrote: »

Is it mentioned anywhere in the first 20 pages?

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112638190&postcount=2183
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112940817&postcount=229

cnocbui

Ah right got it, finaly, it's on page 14:

Which is interesting, coming 7 days after the page 7:

hanks Phil. Now this is a tricky one. As most regulars will know from my posting history, I'm pretty open when it comes to prices / cost and what I have spent on something in general. And I am usually one of the nosey ones asking others what they paid! I am many things, but not a hypocrite. So the least I can do is address this issue.
...
I am reluctant to mention the figure I paid

And then he proceeds to not address the issue, until page 14, where someone seems clearly annoyed at being asked a direct question and addressing the question he'd of been hypocritical not to addess:

Now will I show you my new clothes (the invoice) as well, or do you take my word for it?

Gumbo

cnocbui wrote: »

Ah right got it, finaly, it's on page 14:

Which is interesting, coming 7 days after the page 7:



And then he proceeds to not address the issue, until page 14, where someone seems clearly annoyed at being asked a direct question and addressing the question he'd of been hypocritical not to addess:

And your point is.........
No need to get knickers in a twist about a post from 12 months ago. Regular users know the info. People who want to begrudge and moan and complain about it should consider their consistent appearance in the forum in the first place.