Formula 1 2019 - Round 6 - Monaco

skipper_G

Monaco Grand Prix from the Circuit de Monaco


First Grand Prix: 1950
Number of Laps: 78
Circuit Length: 3.337km
Race Distance: 260.286 km
Lap Record: 1:14.260 Max Verstappen (2018)

TV coverage:
All sessions live on Sky Sports F1
Thursday - FP1: 10:00-11:30
Thursday - FP2: 14:00-15:30
Saturday - FP3: 11:00-12:00
Saturday - Qualifying: 14:00-15:00 (highlights 18:30 on Channel 4)
Sunday - Race: 14:10-16:10 (highlights 19:00 on Channel 4)

Adamocovic

Saw a stat a bit nuts.

Since 2000 2 Ferrari wins in the Monaco GP. Seb in 2017 and Michael in 2001.

Hard to look past either of the Mercs however. You'd think pole position would wrap it up for them, even though Ricciardo was the first to win from pole in the last 4 races.

skipper_G

Both Haas cars were black flagged early in the session, turned out the team had radio communication problems and as the drivers weren't reading the pit boards they asked the FIA to step in

Adamocovic

skipper_G wrote: »

Both Haas cars were black flagged early in the session, turned out the team had radio communication problems and as the drivers weren't reading the pit boards they asked the FIA to step in

That is bizarre.

I know drivers rely more on the radio now but you would think they'd at least notice the pit board.

AMKC

Some nice tributes on the cars from Haas up to Mercedes for Niki Lauda. Also the Mercedes team are all wearing black armbands.

Pissartist

I love monaco for qualifying but the race is a bit boring these days with the cars and fuel the way they are.
I have a feeling le clerc could go well.

Adamocovic

Pissartist wrote: »

I love monaco for qualifying but the race is a bit boring these days with the cars and fuel the way they are.
I have a feeling le clerc could go well.

If he was to win he'd become the second ever to win in Monaco from Monaco (talking about drivers born there not just living).

Only other was Chiron* back in 1931

*Not actually part of the Formula 1 championship at that stage

AMKC

Worth a look if you have not seen any of FP1. The bit between 1 minute to 1 minute10 is worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_gRmkF7SKI

ayux4rj6zql2ph

Honestly don't know anymore about Kubica, he has shown he still has what it takes to drive those cars, but not in competitive fashion against his only rival, his teammate, a tenth of a second behind in FP2 and clipping a barrier earlier on leads me to think the comeback which has turned sour so far will be a one season wonder.

Joeface

Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m11.118s - 41
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1m11.199s 0.081s 48
3 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m11.881s 0.763s 42
4 Pierre Gasly Red Bull/Honda 1m11.938s 0.820s 39
5 Alexander Albon Toro Rosso/Honda 1m12.031s 0.913s 51
6 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Honda 1m12.052s 0.934s 17
7 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 1m12.174s 1.056s 54
8 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m12.239s 1.121s 51
9 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m12.342s 1.224s 51
10 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1m12.350s 1.232s 42
11 Romain Grosjean Haas/Ferrari 1m12.392s 1.274s 51
12 Lando Norris McLaren/Renault 1m12.393s 1.275s 27
13 Carlos Sainz Jr. McLaren/Renault 1m12.419s 1.301s 47
14 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso/Honda 1m12.577s 1.459s 39
15 Sergio Perez Racing Point/Mercedes 1m12.752s 1.634s 44
16 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1m12.872s 1.754s 49
17 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1m12.888s 1.770s 53
18 Lance Stroll Racing Point/Mercedes 1m14.558s 3.440s 40
19 George Russell Williams/Mercedes 1m15.052s 3.934s 37
20 Robert Kubica Williams/Mercedes 1m15.146s 4.028s 45

Albon impressive .

Not sure what to make of the times , I feel like Pole will be in the low 1min10s

Adamocovic

Joeface wrote: »

Pos Driver Car Time Gap Laps
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m11.118s - 41
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1m11.199s 0.081s 48
3 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1m11.881s 0.763s 42
4 Pierre Gasly Red Bull/Honda 1m11.938s 0.820s 39
5 Alexander Albon Toro Rosso/Honda 1m12.031s 0.913s 51
6 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Honda 1m12.052s 0.934s 17
7 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 1m12.174s 1.056s 54
8 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m12.239s 1.121s 51
9 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1m12.342s 1.224s 51
10 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1m12.350s 1.232s 42
11 Romain Grosjean Haas/Ferrari 1m12.392s 1.274s 51
12 Lando Norris McLaren/Renault 1m12.393s 1.275s 27
13 Carlos Sainz Jr. McLaren/Renault 1m12.419s 1.301s 47
14 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso/Honda 1m12.577s 1.459s 39
15 Sergio Perez Racing Point/Mercedes 1m12.752s 1.634s 44
16 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1m12.872s 1.754s 49
17 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1m12.888s 1.770s 53
18 Lance Stroll Racing Point/Mercedes 1m14.558s 3.440s 40
19 George Russell Williams/Mercedes 1m15.052s 3.934s 37
20 Robert Kubica Williams/Mercedes 1m15.146s 4.028s 45

Albon impressive .

Not sure what to make of the times , I feel like Pole will be in the low 1min10s

Normally Merc's take it handy this year in practice and then blitz the competition after the talk up of Ferrari. Not this time it seems.

Also how did Leclerc find himself down there? Haven't checked it out yet. Weather, traffic or just off the pace? You'd expect him to do well here.

Frank Bullitt

https://twitter.com/Insidef1/status/1131543538666049536

Inquitus

Seems Red Bull's assessment post Baku was on the money, the Merc is quicker in all types of corners and it looks like a straight battle between Hamilton and Bottas for PP and the win, Red Bull slot in between the gap back to Ferrari nicely and have the 2nd best package for this weekend.

Bookies Odds To Win

Hamilton Evens
Bottas 13/8
Verstappen 9/2
Vettel 25/1
Leclerc 25/1
Gasly 40/1
The field 1000/1

*Best available prices.

Makes for grim reading, when was the last time the best placed Ferrari was 25/1 to win a GP? Max is the only way a Merc 1-2 can be thwarted and I think when Merc turn up the engines for Q3 he won't have enough to challenge, so unless the Mercs have a coming together this looks like it will sadly be a procession.

pjohnson

Max is the only chance to break the Mercs up.

Ferrari's car and strategists are just not up to it this year.

skipper_G

Inquitus wrote: »

Seems Red Bull's assessment post Baku was on the money, the Merc is quicker in all types of corners and it looks like a straight battle between Hamilton and Bottas for PP and the win, Red Bull slot in between the gap back to Ferrari nicely and have the 2nd best package for this weekend.

Bookies Odds To Win

Hamilton Evens
Bottas 13/8
Verstappen 9/2
Vettel 25/1
Leclerc 25/1
Gasly 40/1
The field 1000/1

*Best available prices.

Makes for grim reading, when was the last time the best placed Ferrari was 25/1 to win a GP? Max is the only way a Merc 1-2 can be thwarted and I think when Merc turn up the engines for Q3 he won't have enough to challenge, so unless the Mercs have a coming together this looks like it will sadly be a procession.

70% of the field at 1000/1, says it all really. I can’t begin to imagine how demoralising it must be to work for one of the teams not in the front three, they give their all just for a chance at 7th

chicorytip

skipper_G wrote:

70% of the field at 1000/1, says it all really. I can’t begin to imagine how demoralising it must be to work for one of the teams not in the front three, they give their all just for a chance at 7th

You said it. Lack of serious competition is the big problem with the sport. The only way of solving this is to entice major manufacturers with major resources and who already have a tradition in motorsport to enter as full works teams. I am thinking of the likes of BMW, Porsche, Ford, Toyota, Lamborghini and Audi.

Inquitus

chicorytip wrote: »

I am thinking of the likes of BMW, Porsche, Ford, Toyota, Lamborghini and Audi.

VAG own those bolded, but they could certainly enter under one of those Brands. BMW, Ford and Toyota have all dabbled in the past. I guess unless there is a sweeping engine change it is nigh on impossible to catch up with Merc and Ferrari as we have seen with Honda, who have picked up a bunch of negative PR while playing catch up. I guess its not that appealing a prospect.

Harika

https://twitter.com/hlawiczka/status/1131657929822806016/photo/1

Doesn#t look like it is an engine advantage anymore but an aero, as all Ferrari engines outpace the Mercedes on the straight.

Inquitus

Harika wrote: »

https://twitter.com/hlawiczka/status/1131657929822806016/photo/1

Doesn#t look like it is an engine advantage anymore but an aero, as all Ferrari engines outpace the Mercedes on the straight.

Seems like those saying Ferrari have developed themselves into a Cul de Sac might well be correct, I am not sure this indicates that the Ferrari has much more HP than the Merc engine, just that the Merc is generating more downforce and much better round the corners perhaps at the loss of some straight line speed, not a bad trade off it seems given the way this season is panning out.

Frank Bullitt

I think I'll skip this one lads, getting up at the crack of dawn to try and stay awake watching both Mercs run off is not my idea of a fun Sunday morning.

Joeface

Qualifing will be good enough , someone always messes up FP3 and Qualifing ( looking at you MAX ) . that throws thing out abit . So I will watch that.

Race not so much . Unless it rains but even that cannot do much there.

Adamocovic

Joeface wrote: »

Qualifing will be good enough , someone always messes up FP3 and Qualifing ( looking at you MAX ) . that throws thing out abit . So I will watch that.

Race not so much . Unless it rains but even that cannot do much there.

Some forecasts saying chances of thunder and rain, others saying dry and sunny. No idea!

Qualifying will be good but really were hoping on something crazy happening to make the race entertaining.

wally1990

Inquitus wrote: »

Seems Red Bull's assessment post Baku was on the money, the Merc is quicker in all types of corners and it looks like a straight battle between Hamilton and Bottas for PP and the win, Red Bull slot in between the gap back to Ferrari nicely and have the 2nd best package for this weekend.

Bookies Odds To Win

Hamilton Evens
Bottas 13/8
Verstappen 9/2
Vettel 25/1
Leclerc 25/1
Gasly 40/1
The field 1000/1

*Best available prices.

Makes for grim reading, when was the last time the best placed Ferrari was 25/1 to win a GP? Max is the only way a Merc 1-2 can be thwarted and I think when Merc turn up the engines for Q3 he won't have enough to challenge, so unless the Mercs have a coming together this looks like it will sadly be a procession.

Thanks for this

Did a bit of looking and I ended up Backing Lewis for 200 in Ladbrokes at evens and paddy power have Bottas at 2/1 so hedged the bet with a 100

TheChrisD

What an utter shítshow in the F2 Feature race today. Red flag for a track blockage, and race control puts everyone who got stuck on track a lap down for the restart :mad:

antodeco

wally1990 wrote: »

Thanks for this

Did a bit of looking and I ended up Backing Lewis for 200 in Ladbrokes at evens and paddy power have Bottas at 2/1 so hedged the bet with a 100

Danny Ric is 500/1 to get on the podium. I stuck down €1

Frank Bullitt

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1131891527293313027

Very nice touch from Merc. Running this for the rest of the weekend.

antodeco

Not sure if anyone has seen this:

https://www.facebook.com/389162354454327/posts/2207092835994594/?sfnsn=xmmo

High quality 70mm footage of Monaco 1962. Unbelievable viewing!

Joeface

Vettel in the barrier

Ghost Train

He will do well to be on the front row later. He almost did the same on Thursday.

It was interesting to see Ferrari warming the brakes before the car went out but obviously didnt help much in this case

flazio

antodeco wrote: »

Not sure if anyone has seen this:

https://www.facebook.com/389162354454327/posts/2207092835994594/?sfnsn=xmmo

High quality 70mm footage of Monaco 1962. Unbelievable viewing!

Grand Prix movie has some great footage from 1966. Monaco, Spa and Monza banking

Ghost Train

Leclerc and Bottas setting the pace Hamilton and Verstappen 0.2s behind

antodeco

LeClerc was 20/1 to get fastest time P3. Guess who put a bet down on it

Edit: I actually got him for 23/1.

I'm not actually a "better", but I've started doing it for F1 races, purely to keep me interested! (Im spending €5 per race on a handful of bets)

Rossi IRL

Could be a grid drop incoming

https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1132231818336440320?s=19

skipper_G

Depending on the severity of the infringement he might just get a reprimand rather than a grid drop.

Edit: confirmed, just a reprimand

skipper_G

Vettel gave the barrier a good whack through the swimming pool. Sitting in the pits with 2 mins to go and on the bottom 5. He will get one flying lap here

skipper_G

What have Ferrari done, Leclerc is in the pits and P13. He could go out here

Edit: and he's out, FFS what are that team playing at. Why wasn't he on the track. Jesus H Christ Ferrari, absolute clowns

Harika

Incompetent monkeys in red

Zaph

Wtf is it with Ferrari that they screw up their tactics so often? They really need to look at getting new strategists.

Delboy2015

Oh dear Ferrari...

Joeface

Holy crap. At least it has made it interesting

namloc1980

What a farce. Ferrari are truly clueless. Are they deliberately sabotaging Leclerc at this stage????

prettyboy81

Amateur hour from Ferrari garage.

Rossi IRL

Ferrari their own biggest enemy.

Poor poor decision making

Leclerc rightly furious

Ghost Train

Wonder were Ferrari too focused on Vettel and thought Leclerc would be grand sure

lfc200

Amateurish from Ferrari!
They are their own worst enemies

pjohnson

Rueda needs to be fired.

Binotto needs to pick his role being Team Principal AND Technical Director is clearly too much.

Disaster.

weekaizer

Once again, Ferrari show their utter incompetence at making basic tactical decisions... Enzo would be turning in his grave.

skipper_G

This is exactly why Mercedes are cleaning up like never before, Ferrari just keep on making these ludicrous errors.

Anytime a team makes an idiotic mistake that should be called "doing a Ferrari"

Dont be at yourself

If I were a Ferrari strategist, I would be worrying about my job. They've been ****ting the bed since Australia.

skipper_G

Dont be at yourself wrote: »

If I were a Ferrari strategist, I would be worrying about my job. They've been ****ting the bed since Australia.

Frankly they should be worried for their jobs, bunch of clowns

Rossi IRL

Id put all my money on a Bottas pole if I was a betting man