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The Irish Times: Unpaid rent, destroyed properties: Landlords’ tales from the renta

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    #122
    Cryptopagan
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    IAmTheReign wrote: »
    Plenty of fixed term leases lapse into open ended leases at the end of the term already and that's totally legal. You're assuming that non fixed term leases would facilitate tax evasion without saying why. Have you any evidence to support that claim?

    Someone was harking back to the days of casual cash in hand arrangements with no paper trail involved, or at least that’s how I interpreted their points. They specifically mentioned “no lease”. An “open-ended lease” is not “no lease”

    I think that’s three times someone has ascribed a position I don’t hold to me so they can “rebut” it. It’s getting a bit tedious now.


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    the_syco
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    Cryptopagan wrote: »
    An “open-ended lease” is not “no lease”
    After their lease ends, their "open-ended lease" is called Part IV.


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    #124
    The_Conductor
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    the_syco wrote: »
    After their lease ends, their "open-ended lease" is called Part IV.

    Any terms or conditions of their original lease continue to apply- providing they do not detract in any manner from the Part IV provisions- regardless of the fact that the original lease has expired.

    Aka- you can only give a tenant additional rights with a lease- which once formulated into a fixed term lease, regardless of the term of the lease- or its expiration- remain in force thereafter.

    Bet you most tenants (or indeed landlords) don't know this.


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    #125
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 24,714 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Paddy The Pirate wrote: »
    Why is it such a big ask to expect housing to be provided to our citizens ? None of us asked to born as we were.. Why should those whose parents went to school and college and got themselves well paying jobs ridicule those who couldn't do those things, and who haven't the money for a house? We can't keep shoehorning the "lesser" in society into hotel rooms and hope they disappear

    Why is it such a big ask that people be responsible for housing themselves? If you can’t house yourself im afraid you have to make do with what ever you get since you are being housed at the cost of people who are also housing themselves.
    Graces7 wrote: »
    why not?

    Because they are contributing nothing, costing tax payers money and taking houses from people who actually need to be in the city. Can’t pay yourself then go where you are put.


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    #126
    The_Conductor
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    Lindsey Fierce Smallpox wrote: »
    Why is it such a big ask that people be responsible for housing themselves? If you can’t house yourself im afraid you have to make do with what ever you get since you are being housed at the cost of people who are also housing themselves.

    People also need to accept this means no 'foreva' home nextdoor to their Mam.
    Other people have support networks that they have to divorce themselves from- the ability to live closeby family and friends- is a luxury- not a right.


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