Ladies and the heat

Slideways

I work in a warmer climate and it’s just getting into winter now, getting down to about 14c at night time. The females who work here are going around rugged up like it’s the artic circle.

It got me thinking and reminded me of when I lived in Ireland and how the girls in the office would have the heating cranked right up leaving the males sweltering in the heat. They often have heaters under their desk and tut loudly at anyone who questions this.

Paradoxically females normally have a higher percentage of body fat so I would have thought they would stay warmer without the need for body warmers or excessive thermostat adjustments

Thoughts on this?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Notice this too, the secretaries in our office always have the heat cranked to the max.

Like it's May now, turn it down a notch.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Body heat is concentrated more around the internal organs in women afaik. Protect dat womb and anything that might be in it.

So women can withstand extreme cold better, but we feel fluctuations in it more.

Another case in point, soon as it hits about 13 degrees load of lads are suddenly too hot to walk through town with their tops on!

suicide_circus

yeah men and women certainly experience temperature differently

CageWager

Apparently it’s men’s fault

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/28/nyregion/office-temperature-sexist-nixon-cuomo.html

EmmetSpiceland

This a personal “bugbear” for me. And it really does seem to gender divide.

The lads in the office sweating profusely under their shirt and tie while the women swam around in flimsy blouses.

Of course, any suggestion that a jumper be brought in is met with death stares as if you’d just insulted someone’s mother. Ridiculous carry on.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

It's simple science. For a given bodyweight, women tend to have less muscle tissue to generate heat.
And the hormone oestrogen also has a big impact because it has the side effect of thickening the blood slightly. This reduces blood flow to the tiny capillaries supplying the extremities.

Apparently women also work better if the heat is turned up.

https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2019/0523/1051177-office-temperature/

Harmless Auld Lad

Harmless Auld Lad wrote: »

I like it when the weather gets better and the girls wear less clothes.

I like to walk around town and look at them.

Ah would ya leave him be. He's just a harmless auld lad. Not a re-reg artiste.

EmmetSpiceland

Huxley Disgusting Self-respect wrote: »

Apparently women also work better if the heat is turned up.

https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2019/0523/1051177-office-temperature/

Could they not just dress accordingly and get the same results?

If I were to suggest that in my place I’d probably be up in front of HR for harassment or bullying.

Gimme A Pound

I'm a woman and it really annoys me. Put on a jumper.

Woke Hogan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah would ya leave him be. He's just a harmless auld lad. Not a re-reg artiste.

You’re the lad who accused me of lying about my age a few weeks ago, right? I don’t think a liar like yourself is in any position to throw stones.

JohnnyFlash

Seems air conditioning is a tool of the patriarchy according to some gobby chick in the Guardian.

RobertKK

A carbon tax on women who don't wear enough clothes in cold weather...might get some nude protests out of it.

mvl

- I think the body can be re-trained (like in my case, I've emigrated from a warmer country to Ireland - so I'd need at least 22 Celsius during winter in the house; while my family favors 25 when they come and visit us here)


- there was this study mentioned last days on social media ; appears that ladies perform significantly better in cognitive tests when its warmer than how they perform when its too cold, while men perform better in cooler conditions, but their performance is affected to a lesser degree.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0216362

Woke Hogan

Woke Hogan wrote: »

You’re the lad who accused me of lying about my age a few weeks ago, right? I don’t think a liar like yourself is in any position to throw stones.

The new account barely lasted an hour. Unfortunately, you're still here.

Woke Hogan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The new account barely lasted an hour. Unfortunately, you're still here.

I’ve only ever had this one account, liar.

Woke Hogan

Woke Hogan wrote: »

I’ve only ever had this one account, liar.

Bitterness never flattered a man. Let it go.

Slideways

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Seems air conditioning is a tool of the patriarchy according to some gobby chick in the Guardian.

What utter balderdash!

They were going on about this on the radio when I woke up this morning.. apparently women like it 3 or so degrees warmer..

nullzero

A typical office will often have men who are expected to wear a long sleeve shirt buttoned up to the neck with a tie and trousers sitting next to women who can wear whatever they like, often sleeveless tops that are open at the front and the back, skirts of any length or fit who complain about the temperature being too low.

A clear case of preferential treatment of men in the workplace.

s4uv3

Slideways wrote: »

I work in a warmer climate and it’s just getting into winter now, getting down to about 14c at night time. The females who work here are going around rugged up like it’s the artic circle.

It got me thinking and reminded me of when I lived in Ireland and how the girls in the office would have the heating cranked right up leaving the males sweltering in the heat. They often have heaters under their desk and tut loudly at anyone who questions this.

Paradoxically females normally have a higher percentage of body fat so I would have thought they would stay warmer without the need for body warmers or excessive thermostat adjustments

Thoughts on this?

What kind of an office did you work in?

Badly Drunk Boy

During the week, I caught the end of a discussion on telly about this. Science said women prefer the temperature 3 degrees higher (fair enough), but went on to say that thermostats were designed to be set to the male preference.

Eh...the whole design of a thermostat is that it can be changed. And in my experience, a 20% or more female vote seems to win over the remaining male vote.

mvl

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

Eh...the whole design of a thermostat is that it can be changed. And in my experience, a 20% or more female vote seems to win over the remaining male vote.

can say what works for me (to accept lower temp in my office): I'd rather put on more layers than staying in a smelly office !
but then ... after finding article below, have to say sometimes cooperation is also needed

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/05/manly-sweat-makes-other-men-more-cooperative

Church on Tuesday

titan18

Fcuking bs that's it's designed for men. Nearly any office I've been in it's been sweltering. You can put on more clothes if it's cold. Only so much I can remove when it's warm

Slideways

s4uv3 wrote: »

What kind of an office did you work in?

It must have been a very cold one by the carry on of some of the chicks that worked there

JohnnyFlash

Slideways wrote: »

It must have been a very cold one by the carry on of some of the chicks that worked there

Did you work in the office of a mart?

mad muffin

Fück it. That settles it. Men and women should live entirely separate lives. Only coming together to copulate. The world would be a much better place.

Tazzimus

I can feel the massive difference in temp when I walk from the mostly male side of the office to the mostly female side, it's like walking into a sauna.
Thankfully my place is casual so I can wear a t-shirt, and then go hide in the server room with its lovely air con

Edgware

Tazzimus wrote: »

I can feel the massive difference in temp when I walk from the mostly male side of the office to the mostly female side, it's like walking into a sauna.
Thankfully my place is casual so I can wear a t-shirt, and then go hide in the server room with its lovely air con

Be careful you're not caught amusing yourself

mfceiling

*My house...Fire lit, heating on full blast. Wife sitting on sofa closest to fire*

Wife "Is it just me or is it cold? Will you pass me the big fluffy blanket from the armchair? I'm freezing in here....Are you not cold?"

Me in shorts and t-shirt "I think it's just you"


F*cking ridiculous carry on. Have to check the heating valve in the shower every time because if she's been in before, the water temperature will be close to molten lava.

anewme

nullzero wrote: »

A typical office will often have men who are expected to wear a long sleeve shirt buttoned up to the neck with a tie and trousers sitting next to women who can wear whatever they like, often sleeveless tops that are open at the front and the back, skirts of any length or fit who complain about the temperature being too low.

A clear case of preferential treatment of men in the workplace.

You sound like you are caught up in time warp from the 50's. Like a bad scene from Mad Men.

Its now 2019.

Id say 90 percent of women in our office wear trousers. The men can wear skirts too if they like, most dont wear ties, some like to wear ties and the trans people can wear what they like. No one bats an eyelid and we all get along fine.

voldejoie

Women definitely do experience temperature differently, but I am still constantly too hot in work and any time I have asked for the aircon to be turned on or the heat turned down I've been asked to 'check in' with the 'representative' on my team who is 'in charge' of letting facilities know we want the temperature adjusted. Apparently they can only make it cooler if everyone agrees, but even when four or five of us (all women actually, now that I think of it) are sweltering, it's not enough. It's honestly the thing I hate most about working in open plan, especially when the rep literally wears a blanket around the office all day, no matter the weather or time of year!

Mr_Muffin

Ban women. It's the only solution.

corner of hells

voldejoie wrote: »

Women definitely do experience temperature differently, but I am still constantly too hot in work and any time I have asked for the aircon to be turned on or the heat turned down I've been asked to 'check in' with the 'representative' on my team who is 'in charge' of letting facilities know we want the temperature adjusted. Apparently they can only make it cooler if everyone agrees, but even when four or five of us (all women actually, now that I think of it) are sweltering, it's not enough. It's honestly the thing I hate most about working in open plan, especially when the rep literally wears a blanket around the office all day, no matter the weather or time of year!

Many years ago , I worked in a team of maintenance electricians and fitters looking after about ten large office blocks with large numbers mainly in open plan offices.

Our facilities manager was driven mental by continuous requests to raise and lower the temperatures and adjust air conditioning.

The solution was genius, every group of four work stations was given their own adjustable thermostat/ temperature controller fitted to a nearby pillar.

The genius part was that the thermostat/temperature controllers were dummy , they did nothing, nada.

Manys a day we strolled through the various buildings watching staff thinking they were raising and lower the temperature as well as adjusting AC.

harry Bailey esq

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Notice this too, the secretaries in our office always have the heat cranked to the max.

Like it's May now, turn it down a notch.

Agreed. Less clothing and a couple of degrees less on the thermostat. Reduces the carbon footprint too, not that I'd give a bollix about that shyte.

ILoveYourVibes

Cuz we are sensitive princesses obviously.

Ficheall

Propose amending thread title to "Ladies in heat".

ILoveYourVibes

Ficheall wrote: »

Propose amending thread title to "Ladies in heat".

Noice job i like it.

anewme

Ficheall wrote: »

Propose amending thread title to "Ladies in heat".

Or rather..boards.ie myonogonistic bull****..thread 2002

nullzero

anewme wrote: »

You sound like you are caught up in time warp from the 50's. Like a bad scene from Mad Men.

Its now 2019.

Id say 90 percent of women in our office wear trousers. The men can wear skirts too if they like, most dont wear ties, some like to wear ties and the trans people can wear what they like. No one bats an eyelid and we all get along fine.

Well a lot of businesses still expect men to dress in a shirt and tie. Sure, you may work in a place where the lads can wear skirts and you all get along famously, but in reality there aren't large numbers of trans people in most office environments and I never suggested that women always wear skirts or dresses, I merely pointed out that they could potentially be wearing something a lot less restrictive than their male colleagues are expected to wear whilst complaining about the cold.

Your office sounds mighty inclusive, to the point where some of it seems like it may be a little made up tbh.

mad muffin

Ficheall wrote: »

Propose amending thread title to "Ladies in heat".

I second that motion.

anewme

nullzero wrote: »

Well a lot of businesses still expect men to dress in a shirt and tie. Sure, you may work in a place where the lads can wear skirts and you all get along famously, but in reality there aren't large numbers of trans people in most office environments and I never suggested that women always wear skirts or dresses, I merely pointed out that they could potentially be wearing something a lot less restrictive than their male colleagues are expected to wear whilst complaining about the cold.

Your office sounds mighty inclusive, to the point where some of it seems like it may be a little made up tbh.

A lot of businesses dont expect women to wear skirts as per your post..on a typical office.. your "typical" office is bull**** .you are nearly 70 years behind the times. The majorityof women where I work wear black trousers, not skirts as you think.

Trousers are less restrictive thsn skirts or dresses so nit sure why you think women have more freedom wearing a dress.

I work in a real office, have done for 30 years. So qualified to comment.

Im not sure why you would see any issue with people being included irrespective as their choice of dress .this is what employees quite rightly expect in 2019.

You pointed out that women were (again according to you ) getting preferential treatment.

This dark ages attitude is seen as very much consigned to the annals of history. If you worked in a decent respectful job Its the norm. But you use it to take a cheap dig at women.

The fact you think a normal run of the mill office environment where people are allowed be treated adults is made up is strange in itself too.

Woke Hogan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Bitterness never flattered a man. Let it go.

I don’t take advice from liars.

Dyr

Huxley Disgusting Self-respect wrote: »

Apparently women also work better if the heat is turned up.

https://www.rte.ie/news/newslens/2019/0523/1051177-office-temperature/

That's why they should be working at a cooker

orourkeda1977

CageWager wrote: »

Apparently it’s men’s fault

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/28/nyregion/office-temperature-sexist-nixon-cuomo.html

New York Times.
Why isnt that surprising

Gimme A Pound

anewme wrote: »

Or rather..boards.ie myonogonistic bull****..thread 2002

I don't know that it's misogynistic as opposed to just observational.

I don't know what's wrong with a good few Irish women - and some Irish men too - they're "freezing" if it's dull and breezy. Today was so warm yet I still saw people wearing jackets. I think it's the legacy of the Irish mammy crushing them with blankets at bedtime.

LETHAL LADY

What's wrong with being toasty? We can't help it if you're sweaty bastards.
I used to work at a reception desk where the desk was about chest height but the office chair was standard.
The amount of shirtless men that would arrive into the office come May(minus a wash for extra sexy like) was hilarious.
They all looked completely naked from my perspective, but did they give a feck?

Posy

I know several work places that have no problem with women wearing sleeveless blouses, skirts and sandles in the summer, while the men can only wear shirts, ties and leather shoes.
I would definitely do a double take if I seen a man wearing a low cut sleeveless blouse in an office- right or wrong, it's not the norm!

I usually wear a snuggly cardi at work because the people I work with blast the air-con. It seems there can never be a happy compromise!

anewme

Eliana Clean Ocean wrote: »

I don't know that it's misogynistic as to just observational.

I don't know what's wrong with a good few Irish women - and some Irish men too - they're "freezing" if it's dull and breezy. Today was so warm yet I still saw people wearing jackets. I think it's the legacy of the Irish mammy crushing them with blankets at bedtime.

If you read the comments irts seen as a situation where women are given preferential treatment because they csn wear a skirt. Whingefest central'.

BuboBubo

Scantily clad young wans with cheap Penneys t-shirts, canvas trainers with no socks and jeans that were mauled by 4 alsations shivering and whinging is a regular occurrence in my workplace!